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02 Oct 2011, 12:24 pm

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Do you by any chance go to an art school?

Because I go to one too and my luck with the ladies has pretty much sky-rocketted within the past year. Artsy girls are the best because most of them are kinda awkward too, but in like a cute way. So it's ok to be an awkward guy, just as long as you're cute about it and not a creeper or stalker (there seems to be alot of them at my school too....)
I'm an art student. She's a different major.
I like the art girls: seems like a wide variety of personality types.
Unfortunately, my luck is still rotten.
Every time I get to know one well enough thru class, I find out she has a bf.
Yet it is such a relief to study in a field where eccentricity and imagination
are not reprimanded and shunned, but instead relied upon.

What qualifies as a creeper? Some people tell me I'm creepy because I like to draw live
portraits of people who don't notice me. It's more spontaneous that way—less artificial.
(I ask their permission before posting online.)


Eh yeah that is kinda creepy. It's better if the other person knows what you're doing and is ok with it, because for all they know you could be doing anything.

And what qualifies as a creeper? Not talking to girls in person but only talking to them online, awkwardly standing there staring at them hesitating whether you should talk to them or not. Or if you're hanging out in a group and the girl is clearly talking to other people, trying to say stuff like "Hey hows it going" or "Hey how are your classes". Its way better if you just join the conversation and say witty things related to what theyre saying. You pretty much just need to be 100% confident in everything you do and say, and try to make yourself out to be Fonzie. Even if you know you're a geek deep down inside, make her think you're the coolest guy in the universe. Does that make sense?



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02 Oct 2011, 12:48 pm

Fatal-Noogie wrote:
What qualifies as a creeper? Some people tell me I'm creepy because I like to draw live
portraits of people who don't notice me. It's more spontaneous that way—less artificial.
(I ask their permission before posting online.)

i find that quite neat, though i suspect i am sort of unusual in that way. i had someone take pix of me with his iphone on the bus, as he was not very secretive about it (he stood up and moved to another seat to get a better angle). i found it really flattering, maybe because it doesn't happen to me all of the time. perhaps a woman who gets a lot of male attention IRL would be offended.

anyway i assume that you are drawing all sorts of interesting people and not just women you find attractive, so i don't see how it could be creepy. i mean, did Van Gogh ask people's permission before he painted them at the cafe?


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02 Oct 2011, 2:11 pm

The age-old topic of the subject's awareness while being drawn/painted/photographed/etc is very complex.

My philosophy, in a nutshell, is that when I'm practicing my drawing/painting,
I'm not interested in telling a story or promoting an agenda.
I'm only interested in the visual elements: (line, shape, light, dark, color, etc.)
I don't draw people, I draw their incident light. I render them like I would any other prop.
(To pretend they are not there is to accuse my retinas of lying.)
The image of a thing is not the thing itself, nor is there ownership between the two. (I believe in rare exceptions.)

Besides, my practice works are only meant to be seen
by other artists who can coach my technique.
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I went thru MetalAspies "Creeper" checklist. My results look pretty bad. :lol:


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06 Oct 2011, 7:34 pm

It should have arrived Monday morning. It's now Thursday afternoon.
No response.
No surprise.

I probably "overdid it", but you have to understand: She told me I was interesting,
so I thought she was expecting a little eccentricity.
I guess writing in ink was inexcusable.

She hasn't even seen the painting,
so this does save me the trouble of explaining why
there are anthropomorphic pirate rats in the background. :lol:


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22 Oct 2011, 7:02 pm

She texted me! 8O
about 4 hours ago
and asked to see the painting.
I'll probably reply later today.

The caveat is the painting isn't finished/presentable. :oops:
I don't know if I should mention that. :?


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22 Oct 2011, 8:23 pm

Fatal-Noogie wrote:
She texted me! 8O
about 4 hours ago
and asked to see the painting.
I'll probably reply later today.

The caveat is the painting isn't finished/presentable. :oops:
I don't know if I should mention that. :?



If she waited 3 weeks to get back to you, I don't think you should respond right away. Honestly, I don't think you should respond at all but if you're set on it, give it some time or you'll seem over eager. Just my 2 c.



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22 Oct 2011, 11:43 pm

awes. it would have been better if you didnt mail it to her, but instead said 'lets meet so i can give it to you'

a good way to further a relationship is to talk and hit it off. talk lightly, not about super serious topics (no religion, no politics, nothing like that). then say you have somewhere to be, and you better get going. turn away, then turn back and say 'hey, you seem really cool (or fun, or insert other word), i'd like to RE-CONNECT with you sometime' (this word is crucial, use it. girls like the thought of 'connecting'). whip out your phone, and say 'give me your number'.

NO HESITATION. NO MEEK-ness. you gotta be 100% CONFIDENT.

then wait for FOUR DAYS before you call her. FOUR. no less. dont call her the next day, or you fail, and it will kill the attraction or dampen it. you want her to be thinking of you, and what you are doing, and why you arent calling her. this way when you DO call she'll be like 'OH EM GEE, ITS THAT GUY' then schedule something with you (like a date).

go mini golfing maybe? dates should be something you think both of you will have fun doing, TOGETHER.



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23 Oct 2011, 12:42 am

We exchanged 7 text messages tonight. ... So much for the waiting game. :lol:
I sent my 1st reply before Fullofstars' post. I wasn't trying to go against ppl's advice.
She kept asking questions. I didn't see the point in waiting, since she knows
I have my phone on me. That would seem like hesitation.

I told her to check my web gallery tomorrow,
which I now think was a mistake, because if I communicate the images online,
that's one less incentive for her to meet me in person.


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23 Oct 2011, 1:36 am

Fatal-Noogie wrote:
We exchanged 7 text messages tonight. ... So much for the waiting game. :lol:
I sent my 1st reply before Fullofstars' post. I wasn't trying to go against ppl's advice.
She kept asking questions. I didn't see the point in waiting, since she knows
I have my phone on me. That would seem like hesitation.

I told her to check my web gallery tomorrow,
which I now think was a mistake, because if I communicate the images online,
that's one less incentive for her to meet me in person.

naw, she's hooked. don't sweat it!

i am extremely happy that you got to where you are right now just by being YOU and doing it YOUR way. leave the hesitation at the door, keep forging ahead and you will get there. :)


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26 Oct 2011, 11:49 pm

Thanks for the encouragement Lex.
"hooked" might be a bit strong.
She declined an invitation to meet to see the painting in person, so it may have
been an inconvenient time/place or it may be her way of telling me she's not that interested.
I uploaded a demo of a part of the painting to my gallery so she can see,
but I omitted the interesting part to leave some mystery.

I want to invite her to a concert I have tickets for that's happening in about a week.
(sold out a while ago - it's a big deal)
I don't know if I should text and ask "Do you like [the band]?" first or
skip straight to the invite. I don't know if I should ask her email so I
can send the full version of the painting, or keep that so I can offer
to pass it to her at the concert. It's hard to act in the absence of knowledge.
I wish this whole precursor dating protocol was less confusing.

(These questions may seem obvious but they still stress me out even tho I try to relax.)


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27 Oct 2011, 10:44 am

Fatal-Noogie wrote:
Thanks for the encouragement Lex.
"hooked" might be a bit strong.
She declined an invitation to meet to see the painting in person, so it may have
been an inconvenient time/place or it may be her way of telling me she's not that interested.
I uploaded a demo of a part of the painting to my gallery so she can see,
but I omitted the interesting part to leave some mystery.

I want to invite her to a concert I have tickets for that's happening in about a week.
(sold out a while ago - it's a big deal)
I don't know if I should text and ask "Do you like [the band]?" first or
skip straight to the invite. I don't know if I should ask her email so I
can send the full version of the painting, or keep that so I can offer
to pass it to her at the concert. It's hard to act in the absence of knowledge.
I wish this whole precursor dating protocol was less confusing.

(These questions may seem obvious but they still stress me out even tho I try to relax.)

hmmm that is tough. such a flurry of communication at first, then she declined to meet in person to pick it up? there is one way to find out if she is trying to signal disinterest - you can ask her to meet one more time, and if it seems inconvenient for her AGAIN simply ask her nicely if she would rather reschedule or simply receive the art in the mail. if she asks to have it mailed you can be fairly certain that she is trying to hint that she is not interested.

and if she never does ask to meet you (or, once she receives the art, if she ceases contact), her feelings will be clear.


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29 Oct 2011, 1:32 pm

She accepted my invitation to the concert. :)
thx for the advice. I'll play it by ear from here on out.

Oh, btw, this is what the painting looks like —> http://fatal-noogie.deviantart.com/art/ ... -265830461


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29 Oct 2011, 1:38 pm

AWESOME! keep us updated. i am sure the art is amazing, and will view the pic later as i can't see it on my phone. *grinning stupidly on the bus, heh*


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29 Oct 2011, 1:57 pm

Trippy, I like it :D


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29 Oct 2011, 3:04 pm

Quote:
don't know how to word a message

i do know how to mess a wordage.
someone has disappeared and if she stays gone, then ................ who knows.
it is late and i am now going to go for at least 12 hours.



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29 Oct 2011, 9:38 pm

Fatal-Noogie, it is beautiful and full of character, your very own style. love it.


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