Interesting video about men's disadvantage in dating scene
How about this maths:




|---Girl1---||---Girl2---||---Girl3---||---Girl5---||---Girl6---||---Girl8---||---Girl9---||---Girl10---||---Girl11---||---Girl12---|
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|---AlphaGuy1---||---Break---||---AlphaGuy2---||---Break---||---AlphaGuy3---||---Break---||---AlphaGuy4---|
-------------------------------------------------------Relationships over some given timeframe---------------------------------

|---Crying on L&D---||---Sexual harrassment case---||---Masturbation---||---One night stand---||---Depression---|
|------------------------------------------------------Semi-permanent celibacy---------------------------------------------------------|
-------------------------------------------------------Relationships over some given timeframe---------------------------------
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|---Girl1---||---Girl2---||---Girl3---||---Girl5---||---Girl6---||---Girl8---||---Girl9---||---Girl10---||---Girl11---||---Girl12---|
.........................................|---Girl4---|...................|---Girl7---|
-------------------------------------------------------Relationships over some given timeframe---------------------------------
|---AlphaGuy1---||---Break---||---AlphaGuy2---||---Break---||---AlphaGuy3---||---Break---||---AlphaGuy4---|
-------------------------------------------------------Relationships over some given timeframe---------------------------------

|---Crying on L&D---||---Sexual harrassment case---||---Masturbation---||---One night stand---||---Depression---|
|------------------------------------------------------Semi-permanent celibacy---------------------------------------------------------|
-------------------------------------------------------Relationships over some given timeframe---------------------------------
The fact that you cant figure out that what you are doing is an attempt of sociology(I doubt anyone would consider what you just posted as a fact unless you carried out several experiments...) and not related to math at all tells a lot about your post.
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It's no less stupid and flawed than the previous poster's "maths".
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Previous posters maths had its flaws(didnt consider same sex relationships...) but i give him some credit because he actually used math signs unlike you.
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I can't stand those TFL guys
I have a theory.....
All of this boils down to one thing. Whether men are terrible and awkward with women or dominant and possessive of women and hold more power etc. it is always the same phenomenon:
I think a lot of men are AFRAID of women. I think they actually do consider women to be superior believe it or not, this is why they over-promoted masculine ideals and squeezed out everything feminine out of themselves, and kept women subservient. Then they feel double threatened when women embrace their masculine side too!
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it just finally occurred to me to check into the idea that equal numbers of males and females are in relationships. mathematically, it would seem to be the case.
when thinking harder about the numbers it occurred to look something up. most men and women get into hererosexual relationships eventually, but of course thre are some exceptions in the fine print. based on the results of my somple search, i find one of those exceptions quite interesting.
more men than women are homosexual
there are many sources of the second fact, all of which give different numbers. however they all agree that more men than women are gay.
just that fact alone point to the very real possibility that... there are more single women on the earth than men.
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there are many sources of the second fact, all of which give different numbers. however they all agree that more men than women are gay.
just that fact alone point to the very real possibility that... there are more single women on the earth than men.

I wonder what the under-reporting is like too. I'd be willing to bet that there are more closeted homosexual men than women. Just a hunch, mind. Perhaps that's the source of the differing numbers?
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when thinking harder about the numbers it occurred to look something up. most men and women get into hererosexual relationships eventually, but of course thre are some exceptions in the fine print. based on the results of my somple search, i find one of those exceptions quite interesting.
more men than women are homosexual
there are many sources of the second fact, all of which give different numbers. however they all agree that more men than women are gay.
just that fact alone point to the very real possibility that... there are more single women on the earth than men.

Is it that hard to just remain quiet and look pretty?.
Now you´ve shown us that our bs reasons make no sense at all, you should be ashamed of yourself.
Now seriously not sure about the same sex numbers but there seems to be an fairly similar amount of males and females looking for a relationship so for every male that is complaining about being rejected by every female, theres a female thats on a similar condition but is overlooked for whatever reason.
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when thinking harder about the numbers it occurred to look something up. most men and women get into hererosexual relationships eventually, but of course thre are some exceptions in the fine print. based on the results of my somple search, i find one of those exceptions quite interesting.
more men than women are homosexual
there are many sources of the second fact, all of which give different numbers. however they all agree that more men than women are gay.
just that fact alone point to the very real possibility that... there are more single women on the earth than men.

Is it that hard to just remain quiet and look pretty?.
Now you´ve shown us that our bs reasons make no sense at all, you should be ashamed of yourself.
Now seriously not sure about the same sex numbers but there seems to be an fairly similar amount of males and females looking for a relationship so for every male that is complaining about being rejected by every female, theres a female thats on a similar condition but is overlooked for whatever reason.
Could it be because she's not conventionally attractive/sought after? I find a lot of the commenters here talk about how hard they have it but in the end it still comes down to looks for them (don't know whether it's a "status" thing or a genuine attraction thing, though).
when thinking harder about the numbers it occurred to look something up. most men and women get into hererosexual relationships eventually, but of course thre are some exceptions in the fine print. based on the results of my somple search, i find one of those exceptions quite interesting.
more men than women are homosexual
there are many sources of the second fact, all of which give different numbers. however they all agree that more men than women are gay.
just that fact alone point to the very real possibility that... there are more single women on the earth than men.

Is it that hard to just remain quiet and look pretty?.
Now you´ve shown us that our bs reasons make no sense at all, you should be ashamed of yourself.
Now seriously not sure about the same sex numbers but there seems to be an fairly similar amount of males and females looking for a relationship so for every male that is complaining about being rejected by every female, theres a female thats on a similar condition but is overlooked for whatever reason.
hahaha you cracked me up (thank you for sneaking in a compliment in your old-fashioned phrase.

i completely agree, that the bottom line is that is is hard for a similar number of men and women. it totally may be the case that disabled men have a very hard time, and there are some matching women out there who are also having a hard time.
mv had a great point that the single women might be less conventionally attractive or sought after. apparently older and well-educated women also have a hard time. it could even be disabled women - it's hard to say (maybe it depends on the type of disability?).
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|---Girl1---||---Girl2---||---Girl3---||---Girl5---||---Girl6---||---Girl8---||---Girl9---||---Girl10---||---Girl11---||---Girl12---|
.........................................|---Girl4---|...................|---Girl7---|
-------------------------------------------------------Relationships over some given timeframe---------------------------------
|---AlphaGuy1---||---Break---||---AlphaGuy2---||---Break---||---AlphaGuy3---||---Break---||---AlphaGuy4---|
-------------------------------------------------------Relationships over some given timeframe---------------------------------

|---Crying on L&D---||---Sexual harrassment case---||---Masturbation---||---One night stand---||---Depression---|
|------------------------------------------------------Semi-permanent celibacy---------------------------------------------------------|
-------------------------------------------------------Relationships over some given timeframe---------------------------------
The fact that you cant figure out that what you are doing is an attempt of sociology(I doubt anyone would consider what you just posted as a fact unless you carried out several experiments...) and not related to math at all tells a lot about your post.
There is plenty of raw data out there to confirm this math.... this phenomena is by no means limited to Aspie beta men either....
The reasons for it are simple.... sex drives might be approximately even, but the ability to resist them is far far greater with most women.
Female sexuality can best be compared to a guilty pleasure. Male sexuality can best be compared to a crack addiction... one that men are born with and the withdrawal pains begin around puberty and don't ease up until sometime around retirement age... if at all.
This is why you will find countless heterosexual women willingly going long periods of time single because she would rather hold out for "Mr. Right" (an alpha male) than settle for someone she considers beneath her. Even the rest of her life if necessary. "I deserve butterflies!" Most men, on the other hand, will settle for just about anything when they are desperate enough. The thought of going an entire lifetime without sex or relationships with women is considered literally a fate worse than death for most heterosexual men.
Needless to say, this creates an imbalance. After that it all comes down to simple rules of economics. Supply and demand. Heterosexual women have the upper hand because the demand is almost entirely on the male side. Hence the societal drive for men to do 99% of the pursuing of women in these heterosexual relationships, and women to do 99% of the accepting or rejecting. And as the typical male demand for sex is so much higher than the typical female demand, the typical female knows good and well she can reject any horny bozo that approaches her with virtually no negative consequences because the odds are highly in her favor that another horny bozo will approach her tomorrow... or at least very soon thereafter the next time she puts herself in a social situation where it can happen. The same cannot be said of the typical (beta) male.
This is where women will tend to get on the defensive and explain how it is justified that women do the accepting and rejecting because they have the most to lose if a child is conceived. This is true, but it ignores the fact that every man approaching her for a date is not merely looking for uncommitted sex. Many are seeking a genuine meaningful relationship and actually hoping to be a husband and father sooner rather than later. Sadly, these are the type most often relegated to beta status. Like the typical female, the typical alpha male can also afford to be picky as his chances of rejection are far less than that of a beta male and this has been confirmed by his life experiences so far.
While socio-economic inequalities between the sexes are a fair topic for debate and deserve to be addressed, they do not apply to the dating arena.
The inequalities there are strictly due to biological uneven ability to cope with unsatisfied sex drive. It is not the fault of women at all. They are just taking advantage of a situation that has been thrown in their lap. The fault lies squarely with men who can't control their sex drive, and a society that is becoming increasingly intolerant of individual shortcomings.
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|---Girl1---||---Girl2---||---Girl3---||---Girl5---||---Girl6---||---Girl8---||---Girl9---||---Girl10---||---Girl11---||---Girl12---|
.........................................|---Girl4---|...................|---Girl7---|
-------------------------------------------------------Relationships over some given timeframe---------------------------------
|---AlphaGuy1---||---Break---||---AlphaGuy2---||---Break---||---AlphaGuy3---||---Break---||---AlphaGuy4---|
-------------------------------------------------------Relationships over some given timeframe---------------------------------

|---Crying on L&D---||---Sexual harrassment case---||---Masturbation---||---One night stand---||---Depression---|
|------------------------------------------------------Semi-permanent celibacy---------------------------------------------------------|
-------------------------------------------------------Relationships over some given timeframe---------------------------------
The fact that you cant figure out that what you are doing is an attempt of sociology(I doubt anyone would consider what you just posted as a fact unless you carried out several experiments...) and not related to math at all tells a lot about your post.
There is plenty of raw data out there to confirm this math.... this phenomena is by no means limited to Aspie beta men either....
The reasons for it are simple.... sex drives might be approximately even, but the ability to resist them is far far greater with most women.
Female sexuality can best be compared to a guilty pleasure. Male sexuality can best be compared to a crack addiction... one that men are born with and the withdrawal pains begin around puberty and don't ease up until sometime around retirement age... if at all.
This is why you will find countless heterosexual women willingly going long periods of time single because she would rather hold out for "Mr. Right" (an alpha male) than settle for someone she considers beneath her. Even the rest of her life if necessary. "I deserve butterflies!" Most men, on the other hand, will settle for just about anything when they are desperate enough. The thought of going an entire lifetime without sex or relationships with women is considered literally a fate worse than death for most heterosexual men.
Needless to say, this creates an imbalance. After that it all comes down to simple rules of economics. Supply and demand. Heterosexual women have the upper hand because the demand is almost entirely on the male side. Hence the societal drive for men to do 99% of the pursuing of women in these heterosexual relationships, and women to do 99% of the accepting or rejecting. And as the typical male demand for sex is so much higher than the typical female demand, the typical female knows good and well she can reject any horny bozo that approaches her with virtually no negative consequences because the odds are highly in her favor that another horny bozo will approach her tomorrow... or at least very soon thereafter the next time she puts herself in a social situation where it can happen. The same cannot be said of the typical (beta) male.
This is where women will tend to get on the defensive and explain how it is justified that women do the accepting and rejecting because they have the most to lose if a child is conceived. This is true, but it ignores the fact that every man approaching her for a date is not merely looking for uncommitted sex. Many are seeking a genuine meaningful relationship and actually hoping to be a husband and father sooner rather than later. Sadly, these are the type most often relegated to beta status. Like the typical female, the typical alpha male can also afford to be picky as his chances of rejection are far less than that of a beta male and this has been confirmed by his life experiences so far.
While socio-economic inequalities between the sexes are a fair topic for debate and deserve to be addressed, they do not apply to the dating arena.
The inequalities there are strictly due to biological uneven ability to cope with unsatisfied sex drive. It is not the fault of women at all. They are just taking advantage of a situation that has been thrown in their lap. The fault lies squarely with men who can't control their sex drive, and a society that is becoming increasingly intolerant of individual shortcomings.
Its this simple:
If you are at a literature exam and your answer to what macbeth is about is :"1+1=2" Your answer has logic but the context makes it seem like a joke.
Here he was able to determine his own context and he failed at it therefore I refuse to pay attention to someone that cant even tell if they are using math or not to prove a point(not going to discuss the content of the post because math without any mathematical signs makes no sense to me).
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Oh please stop going on and on about this alpha/beta male bullcrap, like as if that makes anymore sense to you as it does to me.
Look these people in the video are not women, they are men and that fact alone tells me they don't have a flipping clue about what they are going on about, it all seems to be just complaints after complaints and excuses for these complaints and it just goes on and on.
Yes there are men out there who are complete and utter pricks and still get loads of women but they only attract the IMMATURE women, the women who have not grown up yet, a real woman would NEVER go out with a prick but at the same time she will not go out with a wimp so all you have to do is be confident and make sure your self-esteem is on a good level so that when you do come across a real woman, you won't lose her. Also I will add that most men these days are complete and utter pricks and if they do come across a woman I have no doubt they would crack and look immature to her.
Why do you think I'm not going for women right now? Because I know for a fact most women if not all women around my age are immature at the moment so to think about the future, I'm getting the best grades possible and getting myself slimmer so when I am nice and grown up in my 20's, I can have all the women I like (apologies to the women if I offended).
Real women don't play around with little boys (pricks).
You're naive. It's easier to get girls in school than it is in college, and it's easier to get girls in college than it is to get them post-college. If you aren't fighting them off now with a stick, then when you're "nice and grown up" nothing will change. This "alpha/beta crap" is the only thing standing between you and perpetual celibacy in the modern world. Being the good provider does not guarantee you a decent wife, losing weight will not make a damn bit of difference if you're autistic. The good provider archetype might "might" get you a desperate, used up 39 year old reformed whore, who because she ruined herself in her younger years is unfit for marriage, won't properly bond with you and she'll divorce you and take half (maybe) more of your possessions 5 years down the line. Ah and the kids.
I was you 6 years ago... listen to your elders. What would I have to gain by lying to you?
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you definitely have some questionable motives, lilypadfad. you've pretty much stated outright that you think PUA should be used to control and dominate women, and you appear to have an agenda of trying to discredit women and manipulate men on WP (as you just tried to do with DeanAdamFry). these motives run in opposition to the goal of establishing a respectful and sustainable relationship between two equal individuals.
i do not think you would be actually lying about anything. however i do not find your arguments about women and relationships to be credible because of your underlying reasons for promoting them.
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