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24 Oct 2011, 10:31 am

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I don't see the need for the "Love and dating forum". If you can't get a girl-/boyfriend, it's all about genetics, not social skills. We are not genetically programmed to have friends, to date, have sex or to have children. We are all genetically programmed to be loners without any need for social contact with other people and therefore most of us lack the need for friendship and lack any feeling of lonelyness.


Wow, then I guess I should just ignore all the women at my school who are constantly flirting with me and throwing themselves at me. I guess I should stop sleeping in girls dorms and hooking up with them. I guess I should stop dancing with girls at parties, I guess I should stop going on dates. Because apparently I'm not "genetically programmed" to do that kind of thing, so I should just stop pretending like all these girls at my school are actually attracted to me, because clearly they aren't because I have aspergers.

I also guess I should stop hanging out with all my friends too huh?

....idiot


In fairness, he qualified his statement with "IF you can't get a girl-/boyfriend" - which is clearly not true in your case and therefore he was not referring to you in his post.

He simply has an opinion, he is NOT an "idiot" :?


I learned all my social skills over time. In high school, girls were creeped out by me because I'd always say really weird things to them, but I adapted and learned how to do it, mostly from watching other guys talk to girls, and watching guys talk to girls in movies and tv shows.

If theres one thing all aspies have, it's the ability to learn and hold lots of information, so if you study social cues, and copy the way NT's talk, eventually it'll just come natural and people won't even suspect that you have aspergers. I don't think any aspies is truly hopeless when it comes to romance, and everyone has the potential to get a girl.



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24 Oct 2011, 11:10 am

I agree some people are just born inferior and low functioning. (like myself) No amount of hard work would ever make them appear normal, have real friends, and date.

I just wish the higher functioning would stop comparing themselves to us.


Although, I disagree about getting rid of this forum, because people like me wouldn't have a place to vent about our thoughts and feelings.



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24 Oct 2011, 11:23 am

loner, missile is ready, awaiting your order sir.

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24 Oct 2011, 12:52 pm

I think saying "I have no use for this forum, therefore nobody has any use for this forum." is a bit selfish. I've actually learned quite a bit, and identified some aspects of my personality that need changing just from reading other people's posts. Whether or not that helps in the end remains to be seen, but don't deny the rest of us the chance to try to work out our issues just because you've given up.

And yes, a lot of people use this as a place to rant and throw pity-parties, but there are just as many topics started by people who are legitimately looking for advice or trying to deal with their issues In a constructive manner.


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24 Oct 2011, 1:18 pm

MetalAspie wrote:
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I don't see the need for the "Love and dating forum". If you can't get a girl-/boyfriend, it's all about genetics, not social skills. We are not genetically programmed to have friends, to date, have sex or to have children. We are all genetically programmed to be loners without any need for social contact with other people and therefore most of us lack the need for friendship and lack any feeling of lonelyness.


Wow, then I guess I should just ignore all the women at my school who are constantly flirting with me and throwing themselves at me. I guess I should stop sleeping in girls dorms and hooking up with them. I guess I should stop dancing with girls at parties, I guess I should stop going on dates. Because apparently I'm not "genetically programmed" to do that kind of thing, so I should just stop pretending like all these girls at my school are actually attracted to me, because clearly they aren't because I have aspergers.

I also guess I should stop hanging out with all my friends too huh?


Rule No. 1 for Aspie teens: Never trust anyone.



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24 Oct 2011, 1:21 pm

Crow_T_Robot wrote:
I think saying "I have no use for this forum, therefore nobody has any use for this forum." is a bit selfish. I've actually learned quite a bit, and identified some aspects of my personality that need changing just from reading other people's posts. Whether or not that helps in the end remains to be seen, but don't deny the rest of us the chance to try to work out our issues just because you've given up.

And yes, a lot of people use this as a place to rant and throw pity-parties, but there are just as many topics started by people who are legitimately looking for advice or trying to deal with their issues In a constructive manner.


The problem is that the Aspies here don't get the genetic part of dating, that they are not programmed to have a girlfriend or boyfriend if they're an Aspie.



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24 Oct 2011, 1:26 pm

Lonermutant wrote:
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I think saying "I have no use for this forum, therefore nobody has any use for this forum." is a bit selfish. I've actually learned quite a bit, and identified some aspects of my personality that need changing just from reading other people's posts. Whether or not that helps in the end remains to be seen, but don't deny the rest of us the chance to try to work out our issues just because you've given up.

And yes, a lot of people use this as a place to rant and throw pity-parties, but there are just as many topics started by people who are legitimately looking for advice or trying to deal with their issues In a constructive manner.


The problem is that the Aspies here don't get the genetic part of dating, that they are not programmed to have a girlfriend or boyfriend if they're an Aspie.

your point is based on absolutely no evidence at all. there isn't a genetic link between AS and datelessness. many aspies do date and marry, in fact.


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24 Oct 2011, 1:40 pm

This board receives plenty of comments a day and dont get me started on visits.

While your opinion is appreciated we have to consider that not everyone shares your opinion based on the facts above.

As soon as this board stops receiving comments alex will get rid of it, until then you are just going to have to avoid looking at it if you dont like the threads.


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24 Oct 2011, 1:45 pm

Lonermutant wrote:
I don't see the need for the "Love and dating forum". If you can't get a girl-/boyfriend, it's all about genetics, not social skills. We are not genetically programmed to have friends, to date, have sex or to have children. We are all genetically programmed to be loners without any need for social contact with other people and therefore most of us lack the need for friendship and lack any feeling of lonelyness.
The majority of the posts I see here are from desperate men who are unable to live up to "being normal". If you are tormented by your sex drive, either stick to porn or get chemically castrated! Quit bothering people with the fact that you can't get laid. Yes, I know I've been the same way, but I've accepted that I'm unable to get anyone into bed.

I was one of those desperate men but I was lonely & wanted companionship NOT sex. I met the perfect girl here on this forum sort of accidentally & things are going great between us so I do think this forum has been quite helpful to me. I do understand what you mean about it being genetics because I felt I would of had a lot more luck with relationships if I would of been NT like the majority but my girl has AS too so it works. I'm really sorry you feel this way about the forum & AS


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24 Oct 2011, 1:57 pm

There is a reason why "pick up/game" exists. It is to help people who are not naturally skilled socially learn the cause-effect, body positioning, correct usage of facial expressions so they can be better at finding a girl or even expanding their social circle. There is a whole community dedicated to this kind of thing.



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24 Oct 2011, 2:08 pm

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Girls throw themselves at me as well ... when I fart

To put out the flames?

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24 Oct 2011, 2:31 pm

I date once maby once a year or so. I used to date lots when i was younger, but the experiences has gives me a bitter taste. I've even been offered to become fuck-buddies with two of the girls i met. The first time i didn't realise it until my friend pointed it out <-- (Hint).

Getting a date isn't a problem, i'm sure you could get one to - the real problem is finding someone you 1) can stand being in the same room with and 2) see a future with.


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24 Oct 2011, 3:27 pm

Lonermutant wrote:
MetalAspie wrote:
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I don't see the need for the "Love and dating forum". If you can't get a girl-/boyfriend, it's all about genetics, not social skills. We are not genetically programmed to have friends, to date, have sex or to have children. We are all genetically programmed to be loners without any need for social contact with other people and therefore most of us lack the need for friendship and lack any feeling of lonelyness.


Wow, then I guess I should just ignore all the women at my school who are constantly flirting with me and throwing themselves at me. I guess I should stop sleeping in girls dorms and hooking up with them. I guess I should stop dancing with girls at parties, I guess I should stop going on dates. Because apparently I'm not "genetically programmed" to do that kind of thing, so I should just stop pretending like all these girls at my school are actually attracted to me, because clearly they aren't because I have aspergers.

I also guess I should stop hanging out with all my friends too huh?


Rule No. 1 for Aspie teens: Never trust anyone.


For one, I'm not a teen. I'm 23.

Secondly, I've had lots of friends throughout my life. Some of them I still consider friends, some of them have f****d me over. Now I know who to trust and who I shouldn't.

People who have aspergers can pretty much do anything that any NT person can do, it's all about adapting and learning over time. There's no set rules that state what people with aspergers can and can't do.



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24 Oct 2011, 3:27 pm

Lonermutant wrote:
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I think saying "I have no use for this forum, therefore nobody has any use for this forum." is a bit selfish. I've actually learned quite a bit, and identified some aspects of my personality that need changing just from reading other people's posts. Whether or not that helps in the end remains to be seen, but don't deny the rest of us the chance to try to work out our issues just because you've given up.

And yes, a lot of people use this as a place to rant and throw pity-parties, but there are just as many topics started by people who are legitimately looking for advice or trying to deal with their issues In a constructive manner.


The problem is that the Aspies here don't get the genetic part of dating, that they are not programmed to have a girlfriend or boyfriend if they're an Aspie.


I have dated plenty of girls my first girlfriend was a Aspie the others where NT :wink:



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24 Oct 2011, 4:09 pm

Lonermutant wrote:
Crow_T_Robot wrote:
I think saying "I have no use for this forum, therefore nobody has any use for this forum." is a bit selfish. I've actually learned quite a bit, and identified some aspects of my personality that need changing just from reading other people's posts. Whether or not that helps in the end remains to be seen, but don't deny the rest of us the chance to try to work out our issues just because you've given up.

And yes, a lot of people use this as a place to rant and throw pity-parties, but there are just as many topics started by people who are legitimately looking for advice or trying to deal with their issues In a constructive manner.


The problem is that the Aspies here don't get the genetic part of dating, that they are not programmed to have a girlfriend or boyfriend if they're an Aspie.


Oh so I guess my mother who is a diagnosed autistic holds my Stepfather down by force? She's not genetically programmed to have a partner because you have to work at it. I guess I was an immaculate conception?

My uncle, also diagnosed, has been in a relationship for 20 years, guess he's drugging the NT woman as well?

The problem with people is they base their opinions on their own experiences. Everyone is different. Not one fact applies to each and every human being. But the presumption that a diagnosis of autism immediately labels you as socially recluse and unable to form a relationship is preposterous. If I believed that I would have finished myself as soon as I was given a diagnosis. My Friends, Family and Partners mean everything to me.


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24 Oct 2011, 4:30 pm

I will agrgee here slightly with LonerMutant. I do think that I am not really designed for relationships. I am more designed for a courtroom or some sort of debating chamber where I can endlessly postulate my ideas and argue with others. Or perhaps I am designed for a garden with a tranquil pond where I can daydream and make things up in my head. But relationships are so detailed, so nuanced..... *shiver*.


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