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28 Oct 2011, 2:38 pm

Assuming that the OP has any validity as a problem, what solutions are being offered?

A lottery whereby 1 out of every 100 marriage licenses is denied unless one or both persons happens to be paralyzed?

A law requiring that all second marriages include at least one disabled person?

Another law requiring all "Green Card" immigrant marriages be to a disabled American citizen?

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28 Oct 2011, 3:00 pm

I couldn't find any study about disabled men vs disabled women regarding relationships.



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28 Oct 2011, 3:01 pm

I'm just pointing out the elephant in the room.



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28 Oct 2011, 3:05 pm

Spongy, I have PMed you the other place I saw him singling her out. I couldnt help wondering why she gets such treatment, when her posts tend to be very neutral and non-provocative.

I shouldnt have perhaps made an issue of it in this thread though, *hothead*.


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28 Oct 2011, 3:05 pm

vilin66 wrote:
I'm just pointing out the elephant in the room.

But anyone can do that!

At least I offered a few suggestions ... absurd as they are.



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28 Oct 2011, 3:07 pm

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
I couldn't find any study about disabled men vs disabled women regarding relationships.



vilin66 wrote:
I'm just pointing out the elephant in the room.


Ahh, found something!

Page 350, read it all.


link



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28 Oct 2011, 3:18 pm

Fnord wrote:
Assuming that the OP has any validity as a problem, what solutions are being offered?

A lottery whereby 1 out of every 100 marriage licenses is denied unless one or both persons happens to be paralyzed?

A law requiring that all second marriages include at least one disabled person?

Another law requiring all "Green Card" immigrant marriages be to a disabled American citizen?

:roll:


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28 Oct 2011, 3:20 pm

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
I couldn't find any study about disabled men vs disabled women regarding relationships.



vilin66 wrote:
I'm just pointing out the elephant in the room.


Ahh, found something!

Page 350, read it all.


link

lol so men with disabilities are actually MORE likely to be married than women with disabilities? that is interesting, thanks Boo.


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28 Oct 2011, 3:24 pm

I've dated men with AS too, including the lower functioning. I'm just drawn to them.

I disagree with the OP.



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28 Oct 2011, 3:31 pm

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
I couldn't find any study about disabled men vs disabled women regarding relationships.



vilin66 wrote:
I'm just pointing out the elephant in the room.


Ahh, found something!

Page 350, read it all.


link


I'm saving this link because I'm so tired of looking for this kind of thing.



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28 Oct 2011, 3:48 pm

Well, I can see the logic why men with AS would be less likely to date/get married than AS women (since men are more expected to initiate, to be more socially forward, to flirt, to drive...etc).

Also in most parts of the world (yes, you first/2nd world are minority on the globe) there are more economical and lifestyle expectations from men than from women, like men should have better jobs and be able to afford for a house, men are usually more tolerable in this one. If we go west (a problem that doesn't exist in most Mideastern,north african and Central Asian countries because people there always used still together till marriage while the over-18 older son becomes the home's responsible, no social expectation regarding living alone ), I'd noticed also that men there are more likely to accept adult women who still live with their parents while it's one of the most common red flags for most women, correct me if I am wrong at this one. All those are common problems among AS men.

Men also are more likely to tolerate behavioral quirks in women than women to men.


But the same logic can't be applied for the physically disabled (ie. wheel-chaired). Logically, it would be the harder for disabled women to get married than disabled men, again, due to gender roles and social expectations, nothing much have changed in the most of world : men are still expected to be money machines while women are still expected to be baby-machines and mothers, and since women are expected to be babies machine and mothers then a wheel-chaired woman would be seen much less capable for these tasks "how will she be able to give birth?" is the first question I heard from a mother whom her son wanting to marry a disabled woman.

A wheel-chaired man can still make money for being a computer operator or even a senior programmer, of course here I am talking about mild to medium cases of disability.



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28 Oct 2011, 4:10 pm

^That's part of it. That's what I think needs to be addressed. It's an injustice. Apparently unfair gender roles are just products of insane ramblings from a couple of bitter guys, according to the women on this forum. Women as a whole don't seem to be the type to boycott gender roles, since they favor them.

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Spongy, I have PMed you the other place I saw him singling her out. I couldnt help wondering why she gets such treatment, when her posts tend to be very neutral and non-provocative.

I shouldnt have perhaps made an issue of it in this thread though, *hothead*.


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28 Oct 2011, 4:14 pm

vilin66 wrote:
? Unfortunately it seems like lower status females still have life on a silver platter lol.



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28 Oct 2011, 4:17 pm

vilin66 wrote:
^That's part of it. That's what I think needs to be addressed. It's an injustice. Apparently unfair gender roles are just products of insane ramblings from a couple of bitter guys, according to the women on this forum. Women as a whole don't seem to be the type to boycott gender roles, since they favor them.


No one's talking about unfair gender roles.

They're likening dating practices they perceive as unfair to the slaughter of millions of people.

I'm a woman and I don't favor gender roles. (Oh wait, must be lyin'. :roll:)

If we're going to indict people for not dating this or that group, let's be consistent about it,
in the name of the overweight single mothers everywhere.


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28 Oct 2011, 4:23 pm

vilin66 wrote:
^That's part of it. That's what I think needs to be addressed. It's an injustice. Apparently unfair gender roles are just products of insane ramblings from a couple of bitter guys, according to the women on this forum. Women as a whole don't seem to be the type to boycott gender roles, since they favor them.

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Spongy, I have PMed you the other place I saw him singling her out. I couldnt help wondering why she gets such treatment, when her posts tend to be very neutral and non-provocative.

I shouldnt have perhaps made an issue of it in this thread though, *hothead*.


Step outside your door once in a while, get some sun. You need it.

The whole problems approaching females can be discussed on a separate topic.
Gender rules suck I agree but nothing you, I, boo, hyper... say about them is going to change the fact that you are expected to follow them so I suggest that if you have some issues you take your own advice go outside for a while and start trying to approach women instead of whining on a forum about how hard it is to be a male and who society is against you and all that crap.
Because as said earlier nothing you say is going to change the fact that this is your reality and if you are having this issues you need to work on figuring out a way of getting around them and blaming females for your issues on an online forum isnt going to change the fact that your reality may suck.

You need to work on figuring out what can be improved about your life and spend time working on that. Blaming females for all your issues isnt goign to help you in the long run because you are just procastinating about the real issues and it gets harder year after year


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28 Oct 2011, 4:25 pm

did you read the article, vilin66? the one that precisely disproves your original post, i mean.


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