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31 Oct 2011, 8:02 am

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I've had guys who have expected me to be impressed by their car, too. Seriously, who the bleep cares.


But what if he has a really bitchin' Jeep?

Just sayin'... :wink:



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31 Oct 2011, 8:05 am

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Observe some class A projection there.

"I directed my life towards my career and he doesn't choose that, just like every other man that I know!" [because she would have] It's a hard lesson to learn at her age, young ladies, take note.


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31 Oct 2011, 8:05 am

Grisha wrote:
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I've had guys who have expected me to be impressed by their car, too. Seriously, who the bleep cares.


But what if he has a really bitchin' Jeep?

Just sayin'... :wink:


SUV's are a waste of space unless they're being driven off road.



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31 Oct 2011, 8:06 am

lilypadfad wrote:
http://www.videovat.com/videos/1025/the-bachelor-psycho-reject.aspx

Observe some class A projection there.

"I directed my life towards my career and he doesn't choose that, just like every other man that I know!" [because she would have] It's a hard lesson to learn at her age, young ladies, take note.


You pay to much attention to internet articles and videos.
In reality, from what I've noticed, Business women usually attract business men and they're happy. They get married and stuff and live their life their way.



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31 Oct 2011, 8:12 am

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I'm turned off by a guy who expects me to be impressed by his car. To him, it's part of a social ritual, something everyone's expected to care about, an extension of himself and a personal expression. To me, it's a waste of perfectly good money (if the car is overpriced, and most of them are).


That reminds me of something funny that happened a few months ago. I had a meeting with a business colleague in a very exclusive area of Newport Beach, where what you drive is VERY important. I walked with him back to his car (a black Range Rover of course) and he was puzzled why his car was not responding to his door opener - turned out it wasn't his black Range Rover! :roll:


Oh my god. I would have DIED laughing if I were a fly on that wall! I'm so weird. I can never, ever be impressed by someone's money. I love passion, above all things. If you're passionate about your car because you lovingly restored it or because you appreciate intimately all the design and engineering that went into the car you bought, then great. But otherwise, who cares? :roll:



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31 Oct 2011, 8:16 am

I've never been impressed by a guy's money. Being impressed by it and liking them for that is a foreign concept for me. Either I like them or I don't, whether they are wealthy or flat broke.

I remember once when I was younger my friend's boyfriend tried to set me up with his friend and told me "he owns his own house". Like I'd even care.



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31 Oct 2011, 8:16 am

hale_bopp wrote:
Grisha wrote:
hale_bopp wrote:
I've had guys who have expected me to be impressed by their car, too. Seriously, who the bleep cares.


But what if he has a really bitchin' Jeep?

Just sayin'... :wink:


SUV's are a waste of space unless they're being driven off road.


Of course! My Jeep is definitely not a "Mall Crawler" :)



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31 Oct 2011, 8:19 am

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You pay to much attention to internet articles and videos.
In reality, from what I've noticed, Business women usually attract business men and they're happy. They get married and stuff and live their life their way.


There are some who say women choose high status careers to get on the radar of high status men. I guarantee the vast majority of those women "marry up".


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31 Oct 2011, 8:20 am

hale_bopp wrote:
lilypadfad wrote:
http://www.videovat.com/videos/1025/the-bachelor-psycho-reject.aspx

Observe some class A projection there.

"I directed my life towards my career and he doesn't choose that, just like every other man that I know!" [because she would have] It's a hard lesson to learn at her age, young ladies, take note.


You pay to much attention to internet articles and videos.
In reality, from what I've noticed, Business women usually attract business men and they're happy. They get married and stuff and live their life their way.

it's because he can't find any actual evidence, scholarly journals, or even vaguely reputable articles to support his assertions.

lilypadfad, i don't think that making themselves marriageable according to old-fashioned patriarchal ideals is a good reason for any woman to avoid a high-powered career of her own. thankfully, many women agree. perhaps a higher percentage of these women end up single than women who choose love over a career, but they may be just as happy with the choices they made.

and it speaks more to society's issues that women of higher education have a harder time finding love - perhaps with time our culture will adjust. no reason for women to adjust their ambitions to suit old-fashioned ideals.


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31 Oct 2011, 8:23 am

I guess now I have a follow-up question:

Does it really matter where a guy takes you on a first date?

If I had a really hot date I would take her to a really nice restaurant, not so much to impress her, but to make her understand that I value her - is this a good idea?

Should we be going "Dutch" at McDonalds instead?



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31 Oct 2011, 8:30 am

Grisha wrote:
I guess now I have a follow-up question:

Does it really matter where a guy takes you on a first date?

If I had a really hot date I would take her to a really nice restaurant, not so much to impress her, but to make her understand that I value her - is this a good idea?

Should we be going "Dutch" at McDonalds instead?

Its my understanding that its allways best to ask instead of making any assumptions. Perhaps not ask her to set the place if she doesnt want to but ask her what kind of food she likes... and take her to a place according to her preferences.


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31 Oct 2011, 8:31 am

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How important is money really?


it is crucial to my existence.
i like to find ways to attract money.
people can grizzle and moan and be swept up in the emotional tsunamis that cause them to panic.
but they always need things of a basic nature (including golden fried chips) and i can provide those things at an attractive price.

whatever. money is important because you can buy security for the rest of your life with it.

i thought you were making much more money than me.
maybe that is why you value it less.

i hope i have not invited another pm.



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31 Oct 2011, 8:34 am

Grisha wrote:
I guess now I have a follow-up question:

Does it really matter where a guy takes you on a first date?

If I had a really hot date I would take her to a really nice restaurant, not so much to impress her, but to make her understand that I value her - is this a good idea?

Should we be going "Dutch" at McDonalds instead?


I never really care where we go, and I always offer to pay my share, anyway.

If someone suggested we meet at McDonald's, I'd be more concerned for their lifestyle choices, not whether they have money or value my company.

I'm a foodie, too, and it's always disheartening to meet someone whose idea of a restaurant is Applebee's. Not a dealbreaker, per se, but disheartening.



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31 Oct 2011, 8:36 am

Grisha wrote:
I guess now I have a follow-up question:

Does it really matter where a guy takes you on a first date?

If I had a really hot date I would take her to a really nice restaurant, not so much to impress her, but to make her understand that I value her - is this a good idea?

Should we be going "Dutch" at McDonalds instead?

i haven't gone on a lot of official "dates", as i think the culture might be a little different in Canada. on a date i would like to do something fun like go to an amusement park, shooting range, tea in a japanese garden, or an arcade - or hiking with a picnic, etc. maybe go out to eat to a tiny little cafe with live indie music. i dunno, something quirky that leaves a fun impression. but most of my dates were with my husband, not with boyfriends.


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31 Oct 2011, 8:45 am

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Grisha wrote:
I guess now I have a follow-up question:

Does it really matter where a guy takes you on a first date?

If I had a really hot date I would take her to a really nice restaurant, not so much to impress her, but to make her understand that I value her - is this a good idea?

Should we be going "Dutch" at McDonalds instead?

i haven't gone on a lot of official "dates", as i think the culture might be a little different in Canada. on a date i would like to do something fun like go to an amusement park, shooting range, tea in a japanese garden, or an arcade - or hiking with a picnic, etc. maybe go out to eat to a tiny little cafe with live indie music. i dunno, something quirky that leaves a fun impression. but most of my dates were with my husband, not with boyfriends.


That's actually an excellent idea. I think simply taking someone to an expensive restaurant is actually sort of thoughtless and lazy. It would probably be much better to go somewhere interesting, creative, and fun.

All this is kind of hypothetical in my case anyway - I'm not expecting to get any hot dates anytime soon... :roll:



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31 Oct 2011, 8:48 am

It depends on the person.
I would not include fast food joints but take out and a movie at home would work.
Sandwiches from a deli and picnic at a park is nice.
If money is an issue cooking dinner for someone is hot too.
A nice restaurant is good but not tie and jacket required (at least not for first date) There are a lot of small bistros that serve excellent food.

Some people feel the need to be impressed others do not. I think the person doing the asking should pay unless arrangements have been discussed previous to otherwise.