Are guys allowed to be insecure?

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04 Dec 2011, 4:27 pm

Many men are deeply insecure. I thought that was a well known fact. Even those who appear confident.



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04 Dec 2011, 4:36 pm

Vigilans wrote:
A lot of seemingly arrogant and overconfident men are deeply insecure.


Heh, I personally knew few, one of them is a close coworker of mine.

Yet they know how to hide it well.


I know how to hide it very well btw, yet I don't know how to show confidence, I am more like a robot: indifferent.



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04 Dec 2011, 4:39 pm

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
Vigilans wrote:
A lot of seemingly arrogant and overconfident men are deeply insecure.


Heh, I personally knew few, one of them is a close coworker of mine.

Yet they know how to hide it well.


I know how to hide it very well btw, yet I don't know how to show confidence, I am more like a robot: indifferent.


I'm also relatively indifferent. It pisses of other men who are insecure. I can see right through most people when it comes down to it. I treat people fairly but sometimes I'll hear things other men say about me, lies or rumors, and I call them on it and laugh in their face because I know exactly why they're doing it- they're insecure and feel they need to bring other men they know and are resentful of down to their level. I don't consider myself better than anybody; insecure men [narcissistic ones] have this feeling that they are better and that when others are successful it is a personal affront to them. Whether anyone else notices this truth does not matter to me. I laugh in their face and keep moving on with my life. The greatest insult one can give to an enemy is to ignore them

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04 Dec 2011, 5:22 pm

CaptainTrips222 wrote:
DialAForAwesome wrote:
Forget not being allowed to show it--you're not allowed to think it either. It's like people can tell if you have no confidence, even if you don't show it.


I have dealt with enough cocky narcissists to know that not everyone who seems confident feels it deep down. Believe me, some of these people who act like they're all that are deeply insecure at the same time. It sounds weird, but you'd be surprised.


The narcissists have so much confidence inside of them that they're the ones who can hide it if they ARE deeply insecure. If you stop thinking for even a second that you're the s**t and that everyone should bow down to you, that is when people can tell you have no confidence. That's why I responded the way I did. Being moderately confident (as in just enough, really) is sometimes seen as insecurity too, which I disagree with. Everyone has limits. If one says "I suck at math" for example, then that shouldn't be taken as them being insecure unless they dump on themselves about tons of other things on top of that.

Thus why if someone is insecure or not really shouldn't matter. But it does because societal norms dictate that men must ALWAYS have a "rargh me muy macho!" attitude.

Except the metrosexuals, which I don't quite get.

EDIT: I also don't mean you as in you, CaptainTrips. Had to clear that up. :P


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04 Dec 2011, 5:39 pm

You can be insecure but there is no benefit to showing it in most cases.

We all live with certain stereotypes and that's just how it works.



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04 Dec 2011, 9:22 pm

DialAForAwesome wrote:
CaptainTrips222 wrote:
DialAForAwesome wrote:
Forget not being allowed to show it--you're not allowed to think it either. It's like people can tell if you have no confidence, even if you don't show it.


I have dealt with enough cocky narcissists to know that not everyone who seems confident feels it deep down. Believe me, some of these people who act like they're all that are deeply insecure at the same time. It sounds weird, but you'd be surprised.


The narcissists have so much confidence inside of them that they're the ones who can hide it if they ARE deeply insecure. If you stop thinking for even a second that you're the sh** and that everyone should bow down to you, that is when people can tell you have no confidence. That's why I responded the way I did. Being moderately confident (as in just enough, really) is sometimes seen as insecurity too, which I disagree with. Everyone has limits. If one says "I suck at math" for example, then that shouldn't be taken as them being insecure unless they dump on themselves about tons of other things on top of that.

Thus why if someone is insecure or not really shouldn't matter. But it does because societal norms dictate that men must ALWAYS have a "rargh me muy macho!" attitude.

Except the metrosexuals, which I don't quite get.

EDIT: I also don't mean you as in you, CaptainTrips. Had to clear that up. :P


I know. You, as in "one."



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04 Dec 2011, 9:27 pm

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
mar00 wrote:
Seeming confidence is a key asset to every single living organism.


I dunno about that, do bacteria have to be confident in order to survive any antibiotics? :p

Well good thing it doesn't grasp the concept of confidence.

Anyhow - this all women can show their emotions blah blah receive more comfort and all, that's a myth as well. You have to be a tough b***h alright to get anywhere in life. Unless you're a rich spoiled brat obviously. Life's hard otherwise.



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04 Dec 2011, 11:06 pm

Confidence certainly seems to help in the initial stages of dating whether or not it is real or faked.A confident man will be the one who will take the plunge and ask a woman out. I know I don't give off a vibe of confidence. I am quiet ,soft spoken and will not usually take the intiative with women .I am not sure how the faking self confidence works out as a relationship progresses if you are pretending to be something that you are not,so maybe the relationship would be ultimately doomed.I think if you are looking to date many people ,yes ,confidence certainly helps but if you are trying to meet that one person for you ,it seems to be a cliche but I would think being yourself would be the best way to go .