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24 Jan 2012, 9:53 am

Was John Green married? Howza 'bout if I get it on with his neglected spouse? Am I obsessed with romantic love then?? :P Green's quote isn't a bad one. The intention is good.
You CAN find fulfillment in platonic relationships but when that URGE hits, it really hits and not everyone can go to a house of ill repute to get that itch scratched. It's hard not to covet what everybody else seems to be getting for free. When I was a young woman, I got so frustrated by not having a date that it appealed to me very much to steal another's. I mean if another girl had to always rub my face in it, then I figured "I have some of that after all." And I did. 8)
Right behind her back. I only did that to the my so-called girlfriends that seemed to sadistically enjoy my loneliness. If you're gonna parade your man in front of me when I'm starvin', I gonna take a bite when you ain't lookin'. :P The shocking part was how many guys let me!! :D
Yum-yum!! According to my so-called friends, these guys cared "so much" for them. "oh, he's so in love with me, and, oh, he does so much for me, blah-blah-blah..... Then, why's he dining on my stuff so much?!



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24 Jan 2012, 4:58 pm

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I agree, it does seem like an excuse for people who have given up on relationships and become bitter and jaded towards the idea of dating or finding love. I think every person craves to be accepted and valued for their creativity in one way or another, even if that creativity is in the identity they create for themselves.


So, if one doesn't seek out a relationship and instead focuses on betterment in other areas, they're jaded and unfulfilled?

You do realize that not everyone desires a relationship, right?


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24 Jan 2012, 5:05 pm

Humans have evolved to crave for relationship/sex, at least most of them.

Are you single Apz?

I recall you were one of those members who started dating at a very young age (16? 17?) , maybe like 90% of guys, at least in the western world.


The quote is beautiful, but I don't think the you can relate to the adult singles who never had any kind of relationship before.

As for the "other ways to have fulfilling relationships" (ie. friends, buddies...), you do realize that many members do struggle to have these as well, don't you?



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24 Jan 2012, 6:26 pm

Platonic friendships are great and all but they're not always enough and the vast majority of people instinctively want to find a partner.


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24 Jan 2012, 6:28 pm

TeaEarlGreyHot wrote:
Wolfheart wrote:
I agree, it does seem like an excuse for people who have given up on relationships and become bitter and jaded towards the idea of dating or finding love. I think every person craves to be accepted and valued for their creativity in one way or another, even if that creativity is in the identity they create for themselves.


So, if one doesn't seek out a relationship and instead focuses on betterment in other areas, they're jaded and unfulfilled?

You do realize that not everyone desires a relationship, right?


And if you're one of those, more power to you. That quote was meant for people like you. But then there are those of us who just can't live alone. We can survive, sure, but we can't live. Life has no meaning to people like us.



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24 Jan 2012, 6:30 pm

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TeaEarlGreyHot wrote:
Wolfheart wrote:
I agree, it does seem like an excuse for people who have given up on relationships and become bitter and jaded towards the idea of dating or finding love. I think every person craves to be accepted and valued for their creativity in one way or another, even if that creativity is in the identity they create for themselves.


So, if one doesn't seek out a relationship and instead focuses on betterment in other areas, they're jaded and unfulfilled?

You do realize that not everyone desires a relationship, right?


And if you're one of those, more power to you. That quote was meant for people like you. But then there are those of us who just can't live alone. We can survive, sure, but we can't live. Life has no meaning to people like us.


I didn't say I was one of the people that don't desire a relationship. I even made a thread about the hardest part of singlehood. :?

The quote was not meant just for people that have no desire to couple. In fact, it is meant for those of us that DO. It's telling us not to focus too much on the lack of a significant other or you'll miss all the other things life has to offer.


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25 Jan 2012, 5:35 am

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Or you're just one of those 60 year old guys you see on Speed Channel on Saturday morning working on their small block Chevys....


I wouldnt mind this if i had a choice to not work on a V8



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25 Jan 2012, 7:59 am

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Or you're just one of those 60 year old guys you see on Speed Channel on Saturday morning working on their small block Chevys....


I wouldnt mind this if i had a choice to not work on a V8


You know what? I'd love to meet a guy like that, and learn all about engines. I can read books, but it's just not the same.

MXH, you DON'T want to work on a V8?



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25 Jan 2012, 11:57 am

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
Humans have evolved to crave for relationship/sex, at least most of them.

Are you single Apz?

I recall you were one of those members who started dating at a very young age (16? 17?) , maybe like 90% of guys, at least in the western world.


The quote is beautiful, but I don't think the you can relate to the adult singles who never had any kind of relationship before.

As for the "other ways to have fulfilling relationships" (ie. friends, buddies...), you do realize that many members do struggle to have these as well, don't you?


Apz sounds cool, like a rapper stage name :P

I had my first girlfriend at 14, but I've been single a lot of the time too and in all honesty both states of being have their downsides. It's also worth noting that the spark goes out of all romantic relationships eventually anyway, even if that relationship does last (most, of course, do end eventually).

I'm not talking down on relationships, but I do think the quote makes a good point: they're not the only way for people to become happy and fulfilled.



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25 Jan 2012, 12:11 pm

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It's also worth noting that the spark goes out of all romantic relationships eventually anyway,

no it doesn't, necessarily. it probably depends on your definition of "spark".


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25 Jan 2012, 12:12 pm

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It's also worth noting that the spark goes out of all romantic relationships eventually anyway,

no it doesn't, necessarily. it probably depends on your definition of "spark".


I don't think any relationship really feels like it does in those first few months forever, especially after marriage. Or, if this does happen, it's very rare.



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25 Jan 2012, 12:16 pm

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It's also worth noting that the spark goes out of all romantic relationships eventually anyway,

no it doesn't, necessarily. it probably depends on your definition of "spark".


I don't think any relationship really feels like it does in those first few months forever, especially after marriage. Or, if this does happen, it's very rare.

i think you just have to marry the right person (which a lot of people seem to do). that strong lustful feeling often fades, but that's just the physical aspect.


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25 Jan 2012, 12:19 pm

hyperlexian wrote:
Asp-Z wrote:
hyperlexian wrote:
Asp-Z wrote:
It's also worth noting that the spark goes out of all romantic relationships eventually anyway,

no it doesn't, necessarily. it probably depends on your definition of "spark".


I don't think any relationship really feels like it does in those first few months forever, especially after marriage. Or, if this does happen, it's very rare.

i think you just have to marry the right person (which a lot of people seem to do). that strong lustful feeling often fades, but that's just the physical aspect.


I think this is rare, most married couples seem to be constantly miserable. Happy marriages seem to be in the minority, with most people either divorcing or staying together simply for the sake of the family they've created. That's how people dig themselves into holes for the rest of their lives and why I shall never be getting married.

But hey, relationships are obviously personal things and this is just my personal view.



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25 Jan 2012, 1:07 pm

i don't see marriage as necessarily the best choice, and i think people should be flexible in their thinking; not everything needs to be forever-and-ever. i agree that a lot of people seem miserable and i wish those people would just divorce already because i can't see the benefit in staying together if they are so obviously unhappy. but some couples seem to keep the love going strong, if not for life then at least for a very long time.

personally, i believe that relationships could be more successful if people kind of realised that issues are multifaceted and one partner is never 100% to blame for any situation (i get flak for saying that but i stand by it). people are sometimes self-centred and seem to think that they are right and their partner is wrong, instead of seeing the relationship as a dynamic entity; issues are not isolated incidents but arise organically from the interactions between the partners.


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25 Jan 2012, 1:09 pm

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i don't see marriage as necessarily the best choice, and i think people should be flexible in their thinking; not everything needs to be forever-and-ever. i agree that a lot of people seem miserable and i wish those people would just divorce already because i can't see the benefit in staying together if they are so obviously unhappy. but some couples seem to keep the love going strong, if not for life then at least for a very long time.

personally, i believe that relationships could be more successful if people kind of realised that issues are multifaceted and one partner is never 100% to blame for any situation (i get flak for saying that but i stand by it). people are sometimes self-centred and seem to think that they are right and their partner is wrong, instead of seeing the relationship as a dynamic entity; issues are not isolated incidents but arise organically from the interactions between the partners.


Yep, I agree with all of this.



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27 Jan 2012, 12:14 am

TeaEarlGreyHot wrote:
ToadOfSteel wrote:
TeaEarlGreyHot wrote:
Wolfheart wrote:
I agree, it does seem like an excuse for people who have given up on relationships and become bitter and jaded towards the idea of dating or finding love. I think every person craves to be accepted and valued for their creativity in one way or another, even if that creativity is in the identity they create for themselves.


So, if one doesn't seek out a relationship and instead focuses on betterment in other areas, they're jaded and unfulfilled?

You do realize that not everyone desires a relationship, right?


And if you're one of those, more power to you. That quote was meant for people like you. But then there are those of us who just can't live alone. We can survive, sure, but we can't live. Life has no meaning to people like us.


I didn't say I was one of the people that don't desire a relationship. I even made a thread about the hardest part of singlehood. :?

The quote was not meant just for people that have no desire to couple. In fact, it is meant for those of us that DO. It's telling us not to focus too much on the lack of a significant other or you'll miss all the other things life has to offer.


How else would life offer the same feeling that the gentle caress of a woman can?