Question for the aspergers guys who desperately want a GF

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29 Jan 2012, 2:54 pm

For a long time I wanted nothing else than a girlfriend, and for exactly the reason Hale Bopp said: So I would feel worthwhile. After all, if a girl likes you, how bad can you be? Naturally, I never would have admitted it at the time, but looking back now it's very obvious. And it led to not only making it HARDER to find one (because I came off as nervous and needy instead of relaxed and confident, which is what girls like), but also staying in relationships with girls who were clearly not right for me because I felt like this was my last chance to ever have one.

I've said it before, and I'll say it again: Sometimes seeking a girlfriend is the worst way to find one. It makes you come across as less interesting than you are and makes her think of herself as the generic "female" that you see on women's bathrooms": the round head and triangle dress that could be anybody as long as she has the right parts.


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29 Jan 2012, 3:03 pm

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The right reason is because you love her and really enjoy hanging out with her, and you can deal with the highs and lows that come with relationships.

yes, this. "a girlfriend" isn't a great goal, but wanting to be with a certain person is quite appropriate.


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29 Jan 2012, 3:05 pm

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yes, this. "a girlfriend" isn't a great goal


Not least because one might end up with someone extremely unsuitable - i.e. a nutjob. Same goes the other way for t'wimmin.



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29 Jan 2012, 3:09 pm

i want a relationship for the relationship. i dont want it because i need it to feel validated or something. i want it because i feel that, out of everything in the world, the things that im best at are the things that i can only do in a relationship. like loving, and cuddling, and kissing, and making someone feel appreciated, like i will never let them down. i want a connection with someone. i want to grow to love someone who loves me too.

without this love, i really dont feel i'll ever be truly happy.



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29 Jan 2012, 3:11 pm

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This is mainly directed towards the guys who have never had anything but romantic rejection, ever.

Do you want a GF because you actually want a relationship, or do you want a GF to make you feel like/prove you are worth something and aren't completely repulsive?


I actually want the relationship. I've already proved to myself I'm not entirely repulsive.


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29 Jan 2012, 3:17 pm

I want a relationship because the one I had made me a better person. Because I miss having a female perspective on things. Because I miss having someone who values ME for ME (Golddiggers need NOT apply!). And because I also have the normal physical urges (no need to deny it to make myself look like a Saint. LOL).

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29 Jan 2012, 3:19 pm

Tequila wrote:
hyperlexian wrote:
yes, this. "a girlfriend" isn't a great goal


Not least because one might end up with someone extremely unsuitable - i.e. a nutjob. Same goes the other way for t'wimmin.

yeah, i have tried to communicate this on the forums before, but i can't quite find the right words. it comes across differently to me if a person has a desire for a relationship first and foremost, as opposed to meeting someone that the person then decides to spend a lifetime with. it is like the difference betwen a casting director seeking the right person to fit a role vs. a role being created for an actor.

i don't think i can explain the difference properly, but in the reverse scenario i've heard of some women "shopping for a husband" and that seems very different from meeting people and keeping an open mind to future relationship possibilities.


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29 Jan 2012, 3:21 pm

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For a long time I wanted nothing else than a girlfriend, and for exactly the reason Hale Bopp said: So I would feel worthwhile. After all, if a girl likes you, how bad can you be? Naturally, I never would have admitted it at the time, but looking back now it's very obvious. And it led to not only making it HARDER to find one (because I came off as nervous and needy instead of relaxed and confident, which is what girls like), but also staying in relationships with girls who were clearly not right for me because I felt like this was my last chance to ever have one.

I've said it before, and I'll say it again: Sometimes seeking a girlfriend is the worst way to find one. It makes you come across as less interesting than you are and makes her think of herself as the generic "female" that you see on women's bathrooms": the round head and triangle dress that could be anybody as long as she has the right parts.

yes, this is what i was trying to say also.


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29 Jan 2012, 3:50 pm

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i want a relationship for the relationship. i dont want it because i need it to feel validated or something. i want it because i feel that, out of everything in the world, the things that im best at are the things that i can only do in a relationship. like loving, and cuddling, and kissing, and making someone feel appreciated, like i will never let them down. i want a connection with someone. i want to grow to love someone who loves me too.

without this love, i really dont feel i'll ever be truly happy.

That's how I feel too


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29 Jan 2012, 4:33 pm

For me, I'll admit that having my worth confirmed matters more to me right now.

Most girls I've grown close to eventually go on to date other guys after rejecting me and our friendships end in time as well. I don't think I could ever really open up to anyone, especially when it's the man's confidence, power and status are what attract women in the first place. So far, people I've been attracted to have reacted with irritation, disappointment or concern when I made my feelings clear to them. I've concluded that this is the worst thing you can possibly do with someone you like and there's no chance of me repeating it in the future.

What's especially hard for me is realising that I don't know how to go about attracting people. I thought it happened by itself between compatible people, but it seems to have to flirt, use body language and so on to change your friendship with them to something sexual before you can have a relationship with them.

Most likely I'm too immature to handle something like a relationship anyway, but my self esteem has really suffered over time. It's kind of dumb because I've had a good life and no one's ever been cruel to me in rejecting me or anything, but I've been eaten away at by an irrational anxiety that I'm a dull person with little that can enrich another person's life.

I'm afraid of falling in love with someone, because the way I am now, I wouldn't know how to attract them or make the right moves and I'd just end up disappointed.


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29 Jan 2012, 5:14 pm

I definitely want a GF for the sake of love and companionship; not the need to feel validated. Like many Aspies, I tend to get lonely easily and need to have someone around. Unfortunately, the only people who can provide that is my family since I don't even have any friends let alone a GF. I still get lonely sometimes even when family is around. Since I am a "one person person" all I need is a GF, and I think I'll be content.

I worry about this a lot since my parents aren't going to live forever. What am I going to do when they're gone? Hopefully that won't happen for many years yet, but it will happen. I just hope I can find someone who is compatible soon, well before that happens since it will help me not to be lonely and give me greater independence from my parents. In addition, if my GF and I both had jobs, we'd be able to live better than if we were both single. I also want a GF for the sake of experiencing love and sex for the first time. I don't think I'd be comfortable having sex with someone I don't know very well or someone who doesn't know me well. There are many reasons why I want a GF, but feeling validated is not really one of them.



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29 Jan 2012, 5:29 pm

I don't consider myself desperate, but I worry that since I am not the "it" guy that only exists in the minds of some ad execs, then my only option is to be the guy that people settle for when they can't get anyone else.


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29 Jan 2012, 5:46 pm

Tim_Tex wrote:
I don't consider myself desperate, but I worry that since I am not the "it" guy that only exists in the minds of some ad execs, then my only option is to be the guy that people settle for when they can't get anyone else.

reminds me, i hate hearing all day long from women online how im such a nice person/handsome/etc. when nobody i meet seems to think the same. Makes me feel lied to



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29 Jan 2012, 5:48 pm

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Tim_Tex wrote:
I don't consider myself desperate, but I worry that since I am not the "it" guy that only exists in the minds of some ad execs, then my only option is to be the guy that people settle for when they can't get anyone else.

reminds me, i hate hearing all day long from women online how im such a nice person/handsome/etc. when nobody i meet seems to think the same. Makes me feel lied to


YES! that is exactly what I was trying to convey in my thread the other week. It's the constant stream of women telling you how great you are, how nice you are, how they just can't understand why you are single.. and then when you actually ask some one out they won't even talk to you. The feeling of being lied to, even if it's not intentional, has a pervasive effect on your abilities to continue trying.



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29 Jan 2012, 6:00 pm

MXH wrote:
Tim_Tex wrote:
I don't consider myself desperate, but I worry that since I am not the "it" guy that only exists in the minds of some ad execs, then my only option is to be the guy that people settle for when they can't get anyone else.

reminds me, i hate hearing all day long from women online how im such a nice person/handsome/etc. when nobody i meet seems to think the same. Makes me feel lied to


Well, if I ever met you, I'd tell you.



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29 Jan 2012, 6:13 pm

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MXH wrote:
Tim_Tex wrote:
I don't consider myself desperate, but I worry that since I am not the "it" guy that only exists in the minds of some ad execs, then my only option is to be the guy that people settle for when they can't get anyone else.

reminds me, i hate hearing all day long from women online how im such a nice person/handsome/etc. when nobody i meet seems to think the same. Makes me feel lied to


Well, if I ever met you, I'd tell you.

someday, i want to meet you smudge. i think you're awesome and i like that you are straightforward and no-nonsense. i have met very few people who are as honest (with themselves as well as others) as you are.


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