I "met" an aspie guy.....I need help understanding
Tequila wrote:
MissingSei wrote:
Should I try to find the shortest possible way of asking him this? Do aspies need directness but also brief questions?
They need concise, clearly worded questions. Ones with very little wriggle room. It needs to avoid sounding like an interrogation, and also to avoid coming across as flirty. Does he understand flirting?
Yes, he flirts with me. I don't think his asperger's is very strong. He says that he doesn't really understand non-verbal social cues, women because he's too shy to interact, he also shows light sensitivity and he told me he's particular about what he eats, and certain fabrics. He says he gets when I'm being sarcastic sometimes. When I told him I'm not turned on all the time he said something that sounded like a verbatim statement about women taking long to become aroused. This is the major problem with me, mentally. I'm not sure how severe an aspie he really is just yet. He seems moreso quirky, but he is an aspie, he said he had all the paperwork. I joked with him to bring it on our meeting, that I only date aspies...

MissingSei wrote:
Yes, he flirts with me. I don't think his asperger's is very strong. He says that he doesn't really understand non-verbal social cues, women because he's too shy to interact, he also shows light sensitivity and he told me he's particular about what he eats, and certain fabrics. He says he gets when I'm being sarcastic sometimes. When I told him I'm not turned on all the time he said something that sounded like a verbatim statement about women taking long to become aroused. This is the major problem with me, mentally. I'm not sure how severe an aspie he really is just yet. He seems moreso quirky, but he is an aspie, he said he had all the paperwork. I joked with him to bring it on our meeting, that I only date aspies...

In this case, you might just have to be more logical and straightforward, and avoid dropping hints so much and be straightforward. I think you'll have to get to know him better though.
kirayng wrote:
Tequila wrote:
MissingSei wrote:
Should I try to find the shortest possible way of asking him this? Do aspies need directness but also brief questions?
They need concise, clearly worded questions. Ones with very little wriggle room. It needs to avoid sounding like an interrogation, and also to avoid coming across as flirty. Does he understand flirting?
Only one anecdotal example here but my Aspie guy loves it when I'm really sexual with him, I think to him that IS flirting. Girls are to have sex with and my guy has the understanding/expectation that I'm also the cleaner of the house and organizer of our schedules/trips/finances, etc.... as well as his sex slave. It's really quite that straight-forward. Not sure if it's like that with ALL Aspie males, but I'm pretty sure what they are after in women is a bit different and more "logical" if you will, than a neurotypical. I know my guy views me as his only life-companion, the only person that he can completely be himself around, which to an Aspie is probably heaven, I know for me to feel that way with him it is heaven.
I don't know if NTs get lonely with us Aspies, as emotional reciprocation is difficult; that said, emotional mimicry seems to really jive instead... if someone laughs heartily, I feel tickled and laugh too.... but I'm not reciprocating.... I'm curious how the OP would feel with this guy in person? That would be a great indicator... I felt like I was with a long-lost best friend when I met my husband. I think true love feels pretty comfortable and safe.... "in love" feels heady, exciting, intoxicating... we are still in love and have true love.
Sorry if I overanalyzed all of it lol!

That first paragraph is so funny and sweet. I think this guy might be somewhat like that! I'm wondering if he thinks sex IS the relationship, you know? Interesting....
When I'm talking to him I feel a warmth for him that I don't quite understand. I guess I will have to update with whatever happens in person, but I can say that I think I like him too much for the amount of time I've known him.
Tequila wrote:
MissingSei wrote:
Yes, he flirts with me. I don't think his asperger's is very strong. He says that he doesn't really understand non-verbal social cues, women because he's too shy to interact, he also shows light sensitivity and he told me he's particular about what he eats, and certain fabrics. He says he gets when I'm being sarcastic sometimes. When I told him I'm not turned on all the time he said something that sounded like a verbatim statement about women taking long to become aroused. This is the major problem with me, mentally. I'm not sure how severe an aspie he really is just yet. He seems moreso quirky, but he is an aspie, he said he had all the paperwork. I joked with him to bring it on our meeting, that I only date aspies...

In this case, you might just have to be more logical and straightforward, and avoid dropping hints so much and be straightforward. I think you'll have to get to know him better though.
This goes against all my senses but I will do just that. THank you.
Tequila wrote:
Hang on, I've just had a thought.
Can you talk to him like he's a computer or a machine? This sounds very impersonal, but it might work. What do you require? And then give multiple-choice questions.
Does this make sense?
Can you talk to him like he's a computer or a machine? This sounds very impersonal, but it might work. What do you require? And then give multiple-choice questions.
Does this make sense?
Hmm, I could but this again goes against my personality. It will make me less empathetic towards him. This is a terrible outcome from me personally.
TheChamelion wrote:
Krychek wrote:
Are you sure you're not an aspie too? This post is about as long as an aspie post!
TLDR
TLDR
No. This is called a 'female NT'.

But I'm sure if I had to write that it would have probably ended up 4 pages longer and it would have been misinterpreted...

And I completely agree with Tsproggy.
MissingSei wrote:
"I've sort of joked with him about using me which he replied to kind of seriously"
You might want to be careful of being too 'subtle' or joking, it's hard enough in real life yet alone when you only have the text! I for one would have thought that wasn't a joke if I wasn't told...
And a little side-note; I think how he says 'lol' allot and laughs allot is that if he adds that to serious things and it wasn't the right thing to say he could pretend he was just joking. So it could basically be a defence of a kind... (Well this is correct for me, I can't be too sure about others.)
Sorry if I misinterpreted stuff or repeated what others said... Skimming through that much righting at 6AM is a wee bit difficult.. (For example it just took me a good 5minutes to remember the word for misinterpreted....) -_______-
Oh I also just noticed I'm proving my point right now about how I could make that post oh so much longer...

Ha! Cute ending there. I think the laughing is a defense mechanism in multiple ways, he uses it to feint understanding, to relax stressful situations, and to buy thinking time. A little piece of why I like for him to talk is the laughing, even though I know this. He looks a lot happier, lol....
kirayng wrote:
Sounds like you really care for this guy.
He's lucky! I think a thoughtful mate such as yourself would be great for him. So just take it slowly, spell things out where needed... and the best thing of all:
You can invent the relationship unique to the two of you. There are no "rules", only meeting each others needs and the candid, specific requests help a lot.
Over a decade with a fellow Aspie.
edited to add, yes, we need a lot of time to process "relationship stuff". Make a request, explain it logically and give reasons WHY you want it done, etc. you know? Cuz things people take for granted as known, are not known by us.... or known in a different way.

You can invent the relationship unique to the two of you. There are no "rules", only meeting each others needs and the candid, specific requests help a lot.
Over a decade with a fellow Aspie.
edited to add, yes, we need a lot of time to process "relationship stuff". Make a request, explain it logically and give reasons WHY you want it done, etc. you know? Cuz things people take for granted as known, are not known by us.... or known in a different way.

Sorry if I'm doing a bunch of arbitrary replying.
I'm reading the messages backwards. I'm at work and everyone just left so I want to reply before I leave for him, food, and bras.
Thank you for the reassurance. I do like him, a lot for the time period we've known each other especially. I tend to get attached easily though and I'm vulnerable in similar ways to him. Though I've never told him this.
Random question: If this goes down the relationship path is it possible I'll see good results in him giving me the things I desire? I'm very giving, which is why I'm trying to understand him more so that I can alter my behavior the best way for this whole thing. Are aspie's hard to get to understand certain things? Like, I really like for a guy to be attentive whether physically or vocally. If we were to date we'd be long distance (though not that long, not to me or him it seems). I've done this before and communication is key. Is he able to understand and comply to this? He may not do certain things on his own, but it can be like a learning process as it is in other relationships...I assumed.
I mentioned this before, but I just remembered something. Maybe sex really is the relationship to him. I like a certain type of sex the most and he expressed a desire to learn to be that way for me. Maybe that means something....
MissingSei wrote:
kirayng wrote:
Sounds like you really care for this guy.
He's lucky! I think a thoughtful mate such as yourself would be great for him. So just take it slowly, spell things out where needed... and the best thing of all:
You can invent the relationship unique to the two of you. There are no "rules", only meeting each others needs and the candid, specific requests help a lot.
Over a decade with a fellow Aspie.
edited to add, yes, we need a lot of time to process "relationship stuff". Make a request, explain it logically and give reasons WHY you want it done, etc. you know? Cuz things people take for granted as known, are not known by us.... or known in a different way.

You can invent the relationship unique to the two of you. There are no "rules", only meeting each others needs and the candid, specific requests help a lot.
Over a decade with a fellow Aspie.
edited to add, yes, we need a lot of time to process "relationship stuff". Make a request, explain it logically and give reasons WHY you want it done, etc. you know? Cuz things people take for granted as known, are not known by us.... or known in a different way.

Sorry if I'm doing a bunch of arbitrary replying.
I'm reading the messages backwards. I'm at work and everyone just left so I want to reply before I leave for him, food, and bras.
Thank you for the reassurance. I do like him, a lot for the time period we've known each other especially. I tend to get attached easily though and I'm vulnerable in similar ways to him. Though I've never told him this.
Random question: If this goes down the relationship path is it possible I'll see good results in him giving me the things I desire? I'm very giving, which is why I'm trying to understand him more so that I can alter my behavior the best way for this whole thing. Are aspie's hard to get to understand certain things? Like, I really like for a guy to be attentive whether physically or vocally. If we were to date we'd be long distance (though not that long, not to me or him it seems). I've done this before and communication is key. Is he able to understand and comply to this? He may not do certain things on his own, but it can be like a learning process as it is in other relationships...I assumed.
I mentioned this before, but I just remembered something. Maybe sex really is the relationship to him. I like a certain type of sex the most and he expressed a desire to learn to be that way for me. Maybe that means something....
I'm pretty damn needy and my guy is very affectionate; sometimes it's too much and I back off, other times we do some very silly things to each other that I don't think "normal" couples do.... There is something pure in our interactions, it's hard to describe but it's really cool.... if you're clear with what you want/expect and it makes sense to the guy, he'll loyally and consistently meet your needs. If you play "women mind games" it will go south really fast... but you really don't sound like that kind of person, you sound very loving and sweet, hopefully things will work out in person for you two.
MissingSei wrote:
Random question: If this goes down the relationship path is it possible I'll see good results in him giving me the things I desire? I'm very giving, which is why I'm trying to understand him more so that I can alter my behavior the best way for this whole thing.
Most likely yes, but like you and the other posters have said, you gotta go against your senses and explicitly state what you desire. Don't forget, as Tequila mentioned, to ask what he wants of the relationship eventually.
MissingSei wrote:
Are aspie's hard to get to understand certain things? Like, I really like for a guy to be attentive whether physically or vocally. If we were to date we'd be long distance (though not that long, not to me or him it seems). I've done this before and communication is key. Is he able to understand and comply to this? He may not do certain things on his own, but it can be like a learning process as it is in other relationships...I assumed.
Here's a bit of advice that anyone on the forum can correct me on if they wish. Most of the time when something's intuitive or implied to an NT, it's either not that glaringly obvious to an Aspie or it would probably take a lot more work for the Aspie to notice. Considering you mentioned something about him not having that much experience with women, he probably does know about relationships being a learning process, but vocalize it anyway in case he doesn't. It could probably save quite a few communication problems down the road!!
MissingSei wrote:
I mentioned this before, but I just remembered something. Maybe sex really is the relationship to him. I like a certain type of sex the most and he expressed a desire to learn to be that way for me. Maybe that means something....
That's a pretty good sign, then!! From what you've said, it seems he's willing to be close with you!! Take the advice you've gotten here and, who knows, you might be on your way to a good relationship!! Good luck

kirayng wrote:
MissingSei wrote:
kirayng wrote:
Sounds like you really care for this guy.
He's lucky! I think a thoughtful mate such as yourself would be great for him. So just take it slowly, spell things out where needed... and the best thing of all:
You can invent the relationship unique to the two of you. There are no "rules", only meeting each others needs and the candid, specific requests help a lot.
Over a decade with a fellow Aspie.
edited to add, yes, we need a lot of time to process "relationship stuff". Make a request, explain it logically and give reasons WHY you want it done, etc. you know? Cuz things people take for granted as known, are not known by us.... or known in a different way.

You can invent the relationship unique to the two of you. There are no "rules", only meeting each others needs and the candid, specific requests help a lot.
Over a decade with a fellow Aspie.
edited to add, yes, we need a lot of time to process "relationship stuff". Make a request, explain it logically and give reasons WHY you want it done, etc. you know? Cuz things people take for granted as known, are not known by us.... or known in a different way.

Sorry if I'm doing a bunch of arbitrary replying.
I'm reading the messages backwards. I'm at work and everyone just left so I want to reply before I leave for him, food, and bras.
Thank you for the reassurance. I do like him, a lot for the time period we've known each other especially. I tend to get attached easily though and I'm vulnerable in similar ways to him. Though I've never told him this.
Random question: If this goes down the relationship path is it possible I'll see good results in him giving me the things I desire? I'm very giving, which is why I'm trying to understand him more so that I can alter my behavior the best way for this whole thing. Are aspie's hard to get to understand certain things? Like, I really like for a guy to be attentive whether physically or vocally. If we were to date we'd be long distance (though not that long, not to me or him it seems). I've done this before and communication is key. Is he able to understand and comply to this? He may not do certain things on his own, but it can be like a learning process as it is in other relationships...I assumed.
I mentioned this before, but I just remembered something. Maybe sex really is the relationship to him. I like a certain type of sex the most and he expressed a desire to learn to be that way for me. Maybe that means something....
I'm pretty damn needy and my guy is very affectionate; sometimes it's too much and I back off, other times we do some very silly things to each other that I don't think "normal" couples do.... There is something pure in our interactions, it's hard to describe but it's really cool.... if you're clear with what you want/expect and it makes sense to the guy, he'll loyally and consistently meet your needs. If you play "women mind games" it will go south really fast... but you really don't sound like that kind of person, you sound very loving and sweet, hopefully things will work out in person for you two.
In actuality I'm usually pretty to the point. I think my personality tends to turn off other guys because I'm a little too honest and upfront about how I feel and what I want. I find most people are very guarded in their intentions (which is why I've learned to spot out liars ASAP). I think if he would like this could be a very fortunate meeting.
Thanks so much! I hope things work out as well.
AScomposer13413 wrote:
MissingSei wrote:
Random question: If this goes down the relationship path is it possible I'll see good results in him giving me the things I desire? I'm very giving, which is why I'm trying to understand him more so that I can alter my behavior the best way for this whole thing.
Most likely yes, but like you and the other posters have said, you gotta go against your senses and explicitly state what you desire. Don't forget, as Tequila mentioned, to ask what he wants of the relationship eventually.
MissingSei wrote:
Are aspie's hard to get to understand certain things? Like, I really like for a guy to be attentive whether physically or vocally. If we were to date we'd be long distance (though not that long, not to me or him it seems). I've done this before and communication is key. Is he able to understand and comply to this? He may not do certain things on his own, but it can be like a learning process as it is in other relationships...I assumed.
Here's a bit of advice that anyone on the forum can correct me on if they wish. Most of the time when something's intuitive or implied to an NT, it's either not that glaringly obvious to an Aspie or it would probably take a lot more work for the Aspie to notice. Considering you mentioned something about him not having that much experience with women, he probably does know about relationships being a learning process, but vocalize it anyway in case he doesn't. It could probably save quite a few communication problems down the road!!
MissingSei wrote:
I mentioned this before, but I just remembered something. Maybe sex really is the relationship to him. I like a certain type of sex the most and he expressed a desire to learn to be that way for me. Maybe that means something....
That's a pretty good sign, then!! From what you've said, it seems he's willing to be close with you!! Take the advice you've gotten here and, who knows, you might be on your way to a good relationship!! Good luck

The next chance I get I plan to ask him. Lol, in fact I think I'm going to pull one of his moves and type out what I want to ask so that I'm clear and easy to understand without all the "like, um"'s that tend to happen when I'm nervous. I think I just realized I'm pretty similar to him..>_>
So, do you think me telling him that I have a crush on him penetrated at all? XD
I will take this advice, this is a really nice forum. I've often joined forums and receive no feedback or a very hostile "inner circle" type of environment. I was dating a guy who went into the military and was pretty much hounded and berated by a group of women on a military significant other's forum. I said something that was misunderstood and after defending my point for about two hours (literally) they didn't want to let go and the whole time they were throwing snarky insults like "he's better off without you" because I expressed a disappointment in my ex quitting bootcamp. It was nasty, even the mods were apart of it or told ME that I should just be quiet....I'm glad this forum is more welcoming.
AScomposer13413 wrote:
Most likely yes, but like you and the other posters have said, you gotta go against your senses and explicitly state what you desire.
This is the main thing. You have got to be very clear - and expect clarity in return. If he's not being clear, it's not going to work. Don't let him mess you about.
AScomposer13413 wrote:
Don't forget, as Tequila mentioned, to ask what he wants of the relationship eventually.
You've picked up that habit of emboldening the names of other users too! Excellent stuff AScomposer13413!

Tequila wrote:
AScomposer13413 wrote:
Most likely yes, but like you and the other posters have said, you gotta go against your senses and explicitly state what you desire.
This is the main thing. You have got to be very clear - and expect clarity in return. If he's not being clear, it's not going to work. Don't let him mess you about.
AScomposer13413 wrote:
Don't forget, as Tequila mentioned, to ask what he wants of the relationship eventually.
You've picked up that habit of emboldening the names of other users too! Excellent stuff AScomposer13413!

Mess with me? I think he's been rather clear so far, but I'll look out for that. There is the off chance that he is unsure though.
MissingSei wrote:
Tequila wrote:
AScomposer13413 wrote:
Most likely yes, but like you and the other posters have said, you gotta go against your senses and explicitly state what you desire.
This is the main thing. You have got to be very clear - and expect clarity in return. If he's not being clear, it's not going to work. Don't let him mess you about.
AScomposer13413 wrote:
Don't forget, as Tequila mentioned, to ask what he wants of the relationship eventually.
You've picked up that habit of emboldening the names of other users too! Excellent stuff AScomposer13413!

Mess with me? I think he's been rather clear so far, but I'll look out for that. There is the off chance that he is unsure though.
Thank you, Tequila

MissingSei, if he's unsure, I'd be surprised if he chose to keep quiet on it. Again, it all goes back to the recurring piece of advice stated on this thread. If you're like that with him, he will be when he's ready

MissingSei wrote:
Tequila wrote:
AScomposer13413 wrote:
Most likely yes, but like you and the other posters have said, you gotta go against your senses and explicitly state what you desire.
This is the main thing. You have got to be very clear - and expect clarity in return. If he's not being clear, it's not going to work. Don't let him mess you about.
AScomposer13413 wrote:
Don't forget, as Tequila mentioned, to ask what he wants of the relationship eventually.
You've picked up that habit of emboldening the names of other users too! Excellent stuff AScomposer13413!

Mess with me? I think he's been rather clear so far, but I'll look out for that. There is the off chance that he is unsure though.
"Mess you about", was more than likely confusing UK slang.
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