Was anyone able to date a girl of normal weight

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How easy/difficult is it for you to date a girl
Overweight girl; impossible; Average girl: impossible 33%  33%  [ 3 ]
Overweight girl: difficult; Average girl: impossible 22%  22%  [ 2 ]
Overweight girl: difficult; Average girl: difficult 11%  11%  [ 1 ]
Overweight girl; easy; Average girl: impossible 11%  11%  [ 1 ]
Overweight girl; easy; Average girl: difficult 0%  0%  [ 0 ]
Overweight girl: easy; Average girl: easy 22%  22%  [ 2 ]
Total votes : 9

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26 May 2012, 5:55 pm

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Why don't you try going after people for who they are instead of what they represent sociologically.


That's what most men do. As far as the sociological stuff goes: Do you really think that the smooth, yet unmasculine pretty boy who has a new f@ckfriend every weekend would be perceived as attractive if he didn't represent some standard designated by MTV, Twillight, reality shows and TV soaps?


I have no insights on the behavior or personality of your fantasy boy.

I'm not saying social pressures and culture don't influence who people pursue.
I'm saying that drive is more, I'm saying it's dumb to date people as a symbol of "status"


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26 May 2012, 6:02 pm

DogsWithoutHorses wrote:
Kurgan wrote:
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Why don't you try going after people for who they are instead of what they represent sociologically.


That's what most men do. As far as the sociological stuff goes: Do you really think that the smooth, yet unmasculine pretty boy who has a new f@ckfriend every weekend would be perceived as attractive if he didn't represent some standard designated by MTV, Twillight, reality shows and TV soaps?


I have no insights on the behavior or personality of your fantasy boy.

I'm not saying social pressures and culture don't influence who people pursue.
I'm saying that drive is more, I'm saying it's dumb to date people as a symbol of "status"


I agree it is dumb to date ppl as a symbol of status, but lets face it most girls do that -- as evidenced by statistics that a guy with higher status is far more likely to get a girl. Now this is a good exaple where other people jumping off the bridge WOULD cause me to do the same thing so to speak. I mean if i am being told over and over again ''you are worthless'' then naturally i would want to ''undo'' my worthlessness, hence my obsession about status. If other people didn't care about status so much then I wouldn't care about it either. But if other people care AND htey keep putting me on receiving end of ''low status'' then eventually over the years it builds up the hurt and makes me want to ''make up'' for it by having high status once in a while.



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26 May 2012, 6:05 pm

DogsWithoutHorses wrote:
Kurgan wrote:
DogsWithoutHorses wrote:
Why don't you try going after people for who they are instead of what they represent sociologically.


That's what most men do. As far as the sociological stuff goes: Do you really think that the smooth, yet unmasculine pretty boy who has a new f@ckfriend every weekend would be perceived as attractive if he didn't represent some standard designated by MTV, Twillight, reality shows and TV soaps?


I have no insights on the behavior or personality of your fantasy boy.

I'm not saying social pressures and culture don't influence who people pursue.
I'm saying that drive is more, I'm saying it's dumb to date people as a symbol of "status"


Which is not what men do. Men date for their own sake, to impress bros.

Most of the frustrated guys here would like it if an ordinary girl who was intelligent and perfectly sane would date them. They're not chasing after perfect 10s.

Fantasy boy? I've seen many guys who are womanizers, but obviously wouldn't have been 50 years ago when Marlon Brando and Steve Reeves were the ideal man. This is considered one of Norway's most sexy men today, and he's been in bed with countless women:

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26 May 2012, 6:08 pm

Kurgan wrote:
DogsWithoutHorses wrote:
Why don't you try going after people for who they are instead of what they represent sociologically.


That's what most men do. As far as the sociological stuff goes: Do you really think that the smooth, yet unmasculine pretty boy who has a new f@ckfriend every weekend would be perceived as attractive if he didn't represent some standard designated by MTV, Twillight, reality shows and TV soaps?


Isn't your example self contradictory? I mean you are trying to imply that the hypothetical guy still has low status. If so, then how come he is able to date every week? I mean causality goes both ways. Dating ---> Status and Status ---> Dating. Now, the Status ---> Dating part tells us that some way or hte other the guy somehow managed to get high status to date.

By the way this raises a good point. Whom do people trust; what they see in the movies or what they hear from friends? Perhaps they would say ''well this guy doesn't seem high status, but others seem to treat him as such, so perhaps i am missing something''. So perhaps him getting the girls every week would in fact help him get his social status despite completely failing to match holywood standards? Thats just a guess though.



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26 May 2012, 6:16 pm

Well I am asexual, but some lesbians find me attractive and maybe other asexual females would.....so I imagine I could get with a female of normal weight If I really wanted to...but I doubt their specific weight would be my concern.


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26 May 2012, 6:18 pm

Roman wrote:
Isn't your example self contradictory? I mean you are trying to imply that the hypothetical guy still has low status. If so, then how come he is able to date every week? I mean causality goes both ways. Dating ---> Status and Status ---> Dating. Now, the Status ---> Dating part tells us that some way or hte other the guy somehow managed to get high status to date.


If he had low-social status (let's say that for the next 20 years, bratty pretty boys living of daddy's credit card are portrayed the same way nerds are in the media), he'd have less choices.

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By the way this raises a good point. Whom do people trust; what they see in the movies or what they hear from friends? Perhaps they would say ''well this guy doesn't seem high status, but others seem to treat him as such, so perhaps i am missing something''. So perhaps him getting the girls every week would in fact help him get his social status despite completely failing to match holywood standards? Thats just a guess though.


Teenage girls (and 20 something single girls) wanting what the media says is sexy also wants what friends think is sexy. It's the same instinct.



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26 May 2012, 6:19 pm

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There's nothing I can do to change my weight. I'm 115, and am two pounds underweight for my height. Even though it's not much, I feel like it is when I shop for clothes. Anyways, when I gained ten pounds, some people thought it was awesome that I was normal, while others said I was fat. It was sad that I only gained ten pounds and people though I was fat and it was even sadder when they told me what they thought. I can't imagine how overweight people feel.


Those people are being way too picky. I don't think 2 pounds can possibly be noticed. And as far as 10 pounds part that would mean 125 instead of 115, and 125 is NOT overweight it just isn't! So just let it slide off your back and try not to worry you are doing very well.



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26 May 2012, 6:22 pm

Kurgan wrote:

Fantasy boy? I've seen many guys who are womanizers, but obviously wouldn't have been 50 years ago when Marlon Brando and Steve Reeves were the ideal man. This is considered one of Norway's most sexy men today, and he's been in bed with countless women:

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If that's what the women of Norway are looking for, then I need to move to Norway.



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26 May 2012, 6:28 pm

Kurgan wrote:
Roman wrote:
Isn't your example self contradictory? I mean you are trying to imply that the hypothetical guy still has low status. If so, then how come he is able to date every week? I mean causality goes both ways. Dating ---> Status and Status ---> Dating. Now, the Status ---> Dating part tells us that some way or hte other the guy somehow managed to get high status to date.


If he had low-social status (let's say that for the next 20 years, bratty pretty boys living of daddy's credit card are portrayed the same way nerds are in the media), he'd have less choices..


Are you basically saying that while he does get layed every week he gets layed with low status women? Well, I guess it depends on how much low status. In my case being a loner that I am even being with someone overweight seems higher status than otherwise but that is just my subjective feeling. Although I won't be getting ''layed every week'' I cna't respect myself that way; I am thinking along the lines of long term relationship. On the other hand, if its to the piont that he has to settle on women who are constantly on drugs then yes you are right it would only bring his status further down.

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By the way this raises a good point. Whom do people trust; what they see in the movies or what they hear from friends? Perhaps they would say ''well this guy doesn't seem high status, but others seem to treat him as such, so perhaps i am missing something''. So perhaps him getting the girls every week would in fact help him get his social status despite completely failing to match holywood standards? Thats just a guess though.


Teenage girls (and 20 something single girls) wanting what the media says is sexy also wants what friends think is sexy. It's the same instinct.


Exactly! And now I am being told on this post ''don't judge''. Well how can I all of a sudden stop judging if OTHERS are judging ME. If I simply pretend ''weight doesn't matter'' it won't change the fact that holywood think it does and people listen to it so they judge me based on the weight of the girls I date, whether I personally think it matters or not. So I wish EVERYONE were to stop judging since i agree its shallow. But if everyone judges then I wish I could at least defend myself and do a couple of moves to bring my status at least somewhat above the swamp it is now in.



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26 May 2012, 6:33 pm

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