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17 Jun 2012, 9:40 pm

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There's nothing wrong with throwing in the towel, but it depends on how you do it.

Scenario 1: You could give up then drown yourself in despair by saying things like "I will never find love, so it's not worth the bother anymore"

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Scenario 2: You could give up and resolve yourself to working towards being happy and content with other pleasures/joys that life offers. Intellectual/artistic pursuits, spiritual growth, friendships with people of both genders etc.

In the second scenario, you greatly increase your chances of proving the old stereotype of "if you stop looking for love, you will find it." In the first scenario, the chances are close to zero, and you don't get any extra benefits like learning mind-bending theories about the physical world. Think of it as a Pascal's wager for relationships.


I threw in the towel recently as well. I decided that I too much other stuff going on in my life, such as college, family, friends, etc. I am choosing the second scenario described. I have recently started making art again, and my writing has improved a lot over the past few months. I'm focusing on my interests and the people who I have in my life already. Trying to find a relationship is a painful and exhausting waste of time. I threw in the towel in January 2012 after a painful heartbreak in December 2011, but I don't want to get into the details of it. I really don't want to go through that crap again, and if I look for a relationship, it's bound to happen. Life is too precious to waste my time on useless endeavors.



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17 Jun 2012, 9:47 pm

You really have to find happiness within yourself.

I came to the conclusion a while back that sex is really the only thing that I really want out of dating. All of the other BS that relationships involve I couldn't care less about.



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18 Jun 2012, 3:49 am

poeticwrongplanet wrote:

Scenario 2: You could give up and resolve yourself to working towards being happy and content with other pleasures/joys that life offers. Intellectual/artistic pursuits, spiritual growth, friendships with people of both genders etc.


Probably good qualities to have, but they don't interest me. Having small joys and pleasures fill small gaps. You can't camouflage a giant gaping hole, much like all the advice on L&D is to camouflage personality and become a walking stereotype just to fill the same hole.

Nah, I've completely given up. Broken. Perhaps it'd be better for everyone if I tried not coming over here to L&D, I just don't any hope left...go for it if you do.



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18 Jun 2012, 9:12 am

J-Greens wrote:
poeticwrongplanet wrote:

Scenario 2: You could give up and resolve yourself to working towards being happy and content with other pleasures/joys that life offers. Intellectual/artistic pursuits, spiritual growth, friendships with people of both genders etc.


Probably good qualities to have, but they don't interest me. Having small joys and pleasures fill small gaps. You can't camouflage a giant gaping hole, much like all the advice on L&D is to camouflage personality and become a walking stereotype just to fill the same hole.

Nah, I've completely given up. Broken. Perhaps it'd be better for everyone if I tried not coming over here to L&D, I just don't any hope left...go for it if you do.


Have to agree. I do have my hobbies and I still manage to find some enjoyment out of them, but it's nothing compared to the feeling I've had with people I've been particularly close to. And when it's in your face all the time, whether it's media or strangers or friends or whoever else, it's a constant reminder of what's missing. Doesn't help that it seems I'm treated as something less because I'm alone. Always being the third wheel blows. I'm sure my friends don't really mean to do it, but it still happens. Just a fact of life I guess.

Maybe it's my own fault for not being able to be satisfied by small, simple things. It's certainly not anyone else's problem. I'd just rather not have to be obsessed with material things or have my own happiness rely on them. So many years have been lost just playing video games or reading books, that all the time wasted has been nothing more than a meaningless blur. May as well have bene sleep walking through life.


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18 Jun 2012, 9:28 am

RICKY5 wrote:
You really have to find happiness within yourself.

I came to the conclusion a while back that sex is really the only thing that I really want out of dating. All of the other BS that relationships involve I couldn't care less about.


Happiness within yourself is a recipe for going crazy



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18 Jun 2012, 2:40 pm

MXH wrote:
RICKY5 wrote:
You really have to find happiness within yourself.

I came to the conclusion a while back that sex is really the only thing that I really want out of dating. All of the other BS that relationships involve I couldn't care less about.


Happiness within yourself is a recipe for going crazy


why?



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18 Jun 2012, 5:57 pm

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Thinking it would be so much easier to just throw in the towel and not care anymore. Who all here has done that? I realize that anyone who has probably wouldn't be browsing this forum anyway, but on the off chance that there are people who do, then I'd like to know what your thoughts are and what you've experienced.

How hard was it to do? To simply admit to yourself that it is just not meant for you? Or was it easy? I understand there are some who really just don't care for relationships, so it's really no big deal for them. You're free to reply as well, but I'd much rather hear from those who have been on the other end. I've almost always been obsessed with the idea, and it's only become more and more discouraging over the past decade.

Any other opinions on the matter would be very much appreciated.


Jeez, you asked for it. Here goes:

I live in my head all the time. It could be said my head is so far up my ass I'm in my own intestinally-based reality.

I don't make the time to actually maintain relationships with people. A romantic interest may be in my interest but the other person involved will find significant challenges.

My childhood has compelled me to believe in the idea of the sins of the parents echoing down through the children. There are a large number of sins built up that are now my problem. I can handle my problems. I'd prefer not to dump them on others.

In short, I'm a waste of time for this sort of thing, and I'm aware of it. Someone who would put up with this... well, what sort of thing is that for someone to ask for?



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19 Jun 2012, 5:22 pm

Well, I'm guess I'm done for good. I'm done being rejected. Done playing stupid games, jumping through hoops, selling myself as if I'm some kind of toy or cattle or whatever other product, just to convince others that I'm worth any of their time. It's ridiculous the way humans treat each other and I can not see myself ever wanting to spend my life with people so disgusting.


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19 Jun 2012, 6:41 pm

Hey BoxMan.

Sorry to hear things are not as you would like them to be.
Throwing in the towel isn't a bad thing. It's only losing a battle, not the war. You can try again in the future.

I found what some members have said here in the past has made a lot of sense, and that is you cannot expect people to be happy with you if you are not already happy yourself. You should have positivity to share, not be extracted from another person.

Find something else in life that makes you happy, become passionate about it and be happy. While happy, restart your search for the person that will make you even happier :) I found when I am at my most content I didn't even have to search, a girl would come to me because I invited them into my life. You seem like a good dude and probably the same could be said for you.



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19 Jun 2012, 7:45 pm

conan wrote:
MXH wrote:
RICKY5 wrote:
You really have to find happiness within yourself.

I came to the conclusion a while back that sex is really the only thing that I really want out of dating. All of the other BS that relationships involve I couldn't care less about.


Happiness within yourself is a recipe for going crazy


why?

because its something that will mean giving up on a lot of things. Things that as humans we dont want to give up on. So likelyhood is youll find other ways of getting those things. Perfect example being the crazy cat lady



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19 Jun 2012, 8:19 pm

There wouldn't be much of a point if I could be just as happy going solo. Kind of defeats the purpose.


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20 Jun 2012, 8:47 pm

Ive had two failed attempts so far, so 3 strikes go by I'm out. However this doesnt mean I have to go on an marry the next girl I like. It means the relationship has to be successful, it has to go somewhere, we have to do stuff. It can't be too short. Basically of the next relationship isn't something 'real' as in it's what real people in relationships do and not what others would call 'friends' it makes sense to me so that's all that matters. Me being young though means giving up probably won't last forever, but it will last atleast until I'm out of school