Question for the females.
If you feel it's unfair, then keep your economies semi-seperated. Each keep their own accounts where they get their pay, and each transfer a fixed percentage into a shared billing account. Perhaps 65% of each wage would be enough to pay all the shared bills(food/car/house/kids clothes/etc). Then you would each have 35% of your pay on your personal accounts to use for food at work, or shopping clothes to yourself, or makeup. Two cards on the shared account, one for each to use for groceryshopping, is good if your bank provides a service like that. If your "better half" is not so good, and shop makeup with the food money, smack her with a printout from the account, and tell her thats not ok.
If you make 10000 of some valuta, and she only makes 5000 in the same timeframe(lets say a month), you will have 3500 left to spend, and she will have 1750 to spend.
..thats one way of doing it. There are many more.
Somewhat more on topic than the first part;
If you tend to end up with only one kind of women, I agree with the theory that you might be drawn to that type unconsciously. Sometimes we follow patterns without even knowing it ourselves, infact, most times we follow patterns.
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See, my issues are basically this, My parents and my grandparents both started out with nothing and built their lives together.
So for me love and a partnership should have little to do with money provided its all for whats best for the family unit. therefore I do not look at someones income when choosing a mate.
I am more then happy to care for and provide for those I love the best I can, but in return I do not want to be taken for granted, thats a disrespect for how hard I try and my own feelings as well. and Just like I offer my mates I expect the same in return, if I run across hard times I would like to feel they will be there for me as well. not abandon me if I suddenly got sick or lost a job, and we build our own future together, not on my shoulders alone, nor should it be about who makes the most money.
My last relationship quit her job right after moving in with me, and I thought I was being smart to at least make sure she had a job first. then once I complained she got a part time job only to spend it all on her self. thats not being a partner. she did not have to match my income, or make more or less then me, all I cared about is that she tried to be that partner.
Thank you for your replies, its good to know there are a few good women in the world who believe in what it takes. many times I get sick of feeling that thats all females thinks I am good for, a provider, someone to support "them". that "princess" syndrome. and it hardens me when I see females think its OK to expect guys to be interested in them when their broke and on hard times, where if the reverse was true many wont even look a mans way, when you never know what tomorrow will bring, and the point is in that of finding out together.
I agree, it is a team effort. A partnership. I think we live in a time when a lot of people, male & female, don't know how to create & maintain a mutual effort. Too much 'me' generation.
So I hope you have gotten some good ideas here, how to look into your way of courtship to see what might not be serving you so well, some ideas for what to look for in a partner. Good luck!
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I can not help that I was born a male. I do not wish I was a female, but I am sure if I was female I would feel the same. I just wanted to understand for sure the expectations of my role in relationships. what I should expect to be taken for granted, and what others considered love and true partnership to be in todays society.
Even though many on this thread has given me their answers, answers which I feel is right and true, this does not mean what modern females still want or expect from their males enough for them to accept us males enough for us to have that peace of mind of having that love of our lives in our lives. I am sure what females felt otherwise did not respond knowing they would get jilted for it.
many seem angry that they can not have that princess life. when we men have the same problem in our own ways. we want to be what our love of our lives wants, but fail with the changing times and tides.
Even though I got the answers I wanted to hear, I am sure if many of those same females (not all, but some) ended up with males that made less income then them for much of a time they would abandon them if they did not strive to become better. where the same is not expected of the females. that is not a partnership, but a contest.
Woman should not strive to become independent of man, nor that of man to woman. but that of becoming true to each other as partners in life, a unity.
For better or worse, through think and thin.
till death do we part.
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I think a lot of people find themselves in relationships w/someone who bails when the times get tough... look at all the single mothers who believed the man when he said thru thick & thin. So, fidelity is a rare quality anymore.
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DB
Stop it, your starting to make me like you!
I think a lot of people find themselves in relationships w/someone who bails when the times get tough... look at all the single mothers who believed the man when he said thru thick & thin. So, fidelity is a rare quality anymore.
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DB
Stop it, your starting to make me like you!
Oh, that'd be plain tragic!
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I think a lot of people find themselves in relationships w/someone who bails when the times get tough... look at all the single mothers who believed the man when he said thru thick & thin. So, fidelity is a rare quality anymore.
Best...
DB
Stop it, your starting to make me like you!
Oh, that'd be plain tragic!
ROFL, but its a good start!
I think a lot of people find themselves in relationships w/someone who bails when the times get tough... look at all the single mothers who believed the man when he said thru thick & thin. So, fidelity is a rare quality anymore.
Best...
DB
Stop it, your starting to make me like you!
Oh, that'd be plain tragic!
ROFL, but its a good start!
Well, I am a financially independent female.
Unfortunately for you, I'm a lesbian in a long term relationship. Whose partner pays her own way.
It would definitely be a new pattern for you! LMAO
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I think a lot of people find themselves in relationships w/someone who bails when the times get tough... look at all the single mothers who believed the man when he said thru thick & thin. So, fidelity is a rare quality anymore.
Best...
DB
Stop it, your starting to make me like you!
Oh, that'd be plain tragic!
ROFL, but its a good start!
Well, I am a financially independent female.
Unfortunately for you, I'm a lesbian in a long term relationship. Whose partner pays her own way.
It would definitely be a new pattern for you! LMAO
Oh the good ones are always lost to man.
LOL... I had a straight friend in college who used to lament the good guys were either gay or taken. At least you'll still respect me in the morning.
While you're waiting for your team mate to show up, try taking the little quiz here to find your 'love language' & maybe it'll help.
http://www.5lovelanguages.com/
We found that we were very similar in our scores, which could partly explain why we communicate so well. ![]()
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While you're waiting for your team mate to show up, try taking the little quiz here to find your 'love language' & maybe it'll help.
http://www.5lovelanguages.com/
We found that we were very similar in our scores, which could partly explain why we communicate so well.
hmm, i got words of affirmation with physical touch/quality time close behind.
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While you're waiting for your team mate to show up, try taking the little quiz here to find your 'love language' & maybe it'll help.
http://www.5lovelanguages.com/
We found that we were very similar in our scores, which could partly explain why we communicate so well.
Shadows play...
I found someone who was almost the same in interests and desire of life. but it was not enough. I glorify you in your attainments, but I wonder if its in the end enough... that desert rose.
I'm an NT woman married to an AS man. Except for my first serious relationship (which was in high school) and my current relationship, I've always had a substantially higher income than my partner--and I liked it that way, because it seemed to me that when men have more money in a relationship, they tend to act as though they feel superior, and as if they have the right to try to control the woman. That kind of behavior is very difficult for me to tolerate. The difficulty is probably due to the fact that I watched my father dominate and behave abusively toward my mother and get away with it--at least to the extent that my mother felt she couldn't afford to strike out on her own; thus, she was held economic hostage. I vowed I would never let that happen to me.
This has caused problems in my current marriage. I have a good income, about the same as my husband's, but for various reasons he has saved a lot more of his income over the years and has done well with investing, so he's much better off financially than I am, and he does act as though this fact makes him superior to me and gives him the right to tell me what to do in anything having a bearing on finances. Also, I'm suspicious that when he does something for me that requires spending money, he's doing so to attempt to manipulate me and will remind me of it in a smug and infuriating way later. He has actually done this on several occasions.
So you see, there are women who not only don't expect to be taken care of but who don't WANT to be taken care of financially.
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This has caused problems in my current marriage. I have a good income, about the same as my husband's, but for various reasons he has saved a lot more of his income over the years and has done well with investing, so he's much better off financially than I am, and he does act as though this fact makes him superior to me and gives him the right to tell me what to do in anything having a bearing on finances. Also, I'm suspicious that when he does something for me that requires spending money, he's doing so to attempt to manipulate me and will remind me of it in a smug and infuriating way later. He has actually done this on several occasions.
So you see, there are women who not only don't expect to be taken care of but who don't WANT to be taken care of financially.
I understand how you feel.
I my self have never used money for control, But I guess what image I have in my mind of what a relationship should be does not exist much in these times anymore. an image I gained from my parents. what they earned they never said anything about who earned more, they just threw it together and added up all the bills and paid those, then made plans together for the rest, and left a little out for them selves now and then. they never bickered (that I am aware of) over who should get what and who made the more money, no one tried to control the other. most of the time over the years they both worked together side by side and got paid as a unit. planned everything out together, everything. it was a union of heart and effort. where the thought of divorce was never made, it was (and still is) for them, till death do they part. as a couple they was one. and so was my grandparents the same way. up until our more modern ERA came along divorce was fairly unheard of in my family tree. even that of what kind of toys they wanted for them selves they planned out together (since they done most everything together anyways) and was fair about it.
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