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18 Jul 2012, 9:56 pm

Being quiet is more appealing than being a loudmouth. Shyness is more appealing than a chronic need to draw attention to yourself.
But you do have to be able to open up to the person you're pursuing enough that 1.) they'll be aware of your interest 2.) they'll be able to get to know you.
Ik that can be tough but when someone seems quiet or sealed off it can make it feel more special when that person talks to you. At least that's how it was with my guy.

other people have covered it really well I think


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18 Jul 2012, 10:50 pm

Im a bit shy in person I am afraid to say anything to a girl I find attractive and freeze up not only because I am shy though but also this.[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BaLRpFdZ2V4&feature=fvwrel[/youtube] :roll:


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18 Jul 2012, 11:12 pm

when i am single and interested, i like to bother/tease shy guys to try to bring out some kind of reaction - at least a laugh or a smile or something. if i don't get any sort of response, i figure he's not interested.

i married someone who had social anxiety. when we first spoke, we were at a pool party. i didn't like eye contact due to asperger's and he didn't like eye contact due to social anxiety. so instead of facing each other, we sat side by side and just stared at the pool while we talked for a couple of hours. he always tended to turn girls off because he seemed so aloof, but it was just his brand of shyness. he needed a woman with a strong personality to break him out of his shell.

it can happen, but the opportunities are definitely less numerous.


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18 Jul 2012, 11:43 pm

hyperlexian wrote:
when i am single and interested, i like to bother/tease shy guys to try to bring out some kind of reaction - at least a laugh or a smile or something. if i don't get any sort of response, i figure he's not interested.

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19 Jul 2012, 12:29 am

hyperlexian wrote:
when i am single and interested, i like to bother/tease shy guys to try to bring out some kind of reaction - at least a laugh or a smile or something. if i don't get any sort of response, i figure he's not interested.
That tends to work on me if someone is like that with me it draws me out of hiding and I feel somewhat safe to approach the individual without fear of being attacked or thought of as a creep or a pig or whatnot. Otherwise 99% of the relationships I have been in the women make the first moves. The other 1% is when I am inhibited by alcohol and pure luck. :roll: :oops:


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19 Jul 2012, 12:45 am

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Weak.

They won't tell you this here tho.


This. Stated preferences rarely match actual preferences.
If you say you prefer shy guys, chances are very good you actually prefer guys who lead the way.


There are many many women out there who like shy quiet guys but, since these are not the guys who approach them, they settle for those guys who do. They do this because that is the role society has dictated for women. People act against their nature in order to fit in all the time.


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19 Jul 2012, 1:19 am

Personally, I prefer my partner to be dominant as I can be a bit shy myself. I don't find shy people attractive but that's just me :)



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19 Jul 2012, 5:00 am

Sexist double standard fact:

Shyness in girls is seen as virtue, or at least with indifference.

Shyness in guys is often seen as a very negative trait.



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19 Jul 2012, 5:04 am

mds_02 wrote:
HisDivineMajesty wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
Weak.

They won't tell you this here tho.


This. Stated preferences rarely match actual preferences.
If you say you prefer shy guys, chances are very good you actually prefer guys who lead the way.


There are many many women out there who like shy quiet guys but, since these are not the guys who approach them, they settle for those guys who do. They do this because that is the role society has dictated for women. People act against their nature in order to fit in all the time.


Or maybe because quiet guys are less likely to reproduce, and girls who like shy guys are less likely to reproduce too, hence probably why the non-shy guy preference among girls is way more common. in the wild it's the loud male who is more likely to reproduce.

A lot of the things that the society dictates are indirect consequences of eons of natural selection.



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19 Jul 2012, 5:32 am

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
Sexist double standard fact:

Shyness in girls is seen as virtue, or at least with indifference.

Shyness in guys is often seen as a very negative trait.


fun aspect of this, it contributes to the under and delayed diagnosis of girls and women on the spectrum

also, you know women are discouraged from being bold and brash just as much as men are discouraged from timidity


mds_02 wrote:
There are many many women out there who like shy quiet guys but, since these are not the guys who approach them, they settle for those guys who do. They do this because that is the role society has dictated for women. People act against their nature in order to fit in all the time.


mds_02 is laying down all kinds of truth on this topic

Shyness isn't unattractive, but it probably is a disadvantage


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19 Jul 2012, 6:05 am

A lot of my partners have been shy guys and my husband is not exactly a big brash alpha male. It may not be something that appeals to a majority of women, I honestly don't know, but I'm pretty sure a sizeable minority of us are into quiet types. (I see a lot of black-and-white thinking on these threads, where if something is a slight disadvantage with women when viewed as a whole gender, it apparently means all the women you meet will see you as crap and you will never get laid ever, ever, ever. It just doesn't work like that. Just because you can't walk into a room and get any girl you like, doesn't mean you will never get a girl you like. Harder != impossible.)

However, there is such a thing as too shy. You don't have to be the life of the party to get my attention, but you need to at least be able to show interest in some way. You need to relax around me enough to have a conversation. Because being around someone who's scared of me is a really uncomfortable experience - I never know if I'm going to say the wrong thing, or whether the person is actually enjoying my company. If I feel like a wrong word from me is going to emotionally crush someone, I can't relax around them either! I used to have terrible social anxiety and I would just clam up, not saying a word for half an hour at a time, barely even able to answer a question. I lost friends that way and I'm honestly not surprised, because I was not enjoyable to be around.

And yes, there have been shy guys that I liked, but at the time I was equally too shy to approach them. In fact they probably never knew I liked them. Life's a b***h. :(



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19 Jul 2012, 6:07 am

I wonder what women make of me sometimes?

Whenever I actually approach girls, so long as I don't fumble up my smooth lines and such, I can have decent success (For a nerd and Aspie, mind you...). But....the reality is, I'm usually beating on my chest like a gorilla, metaphorically speaking, in the process, when it's not my real nature to do so.

The "extroverted Shau" is just a mask I like to put on every once and a while, but for the most part I'd prefer to stay reserved and quiet. Yet, I've got all the spine of a cactus needle, I have no problems standing up for myself or getting what I want, or seizing opportunity. I'm just not "loud" about doing it.



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19 Jul 2012, 6:14 am

Shau wrote:
I wonder what women make of me sometimes?

Whenever I actually approach girls, so long as I don't fumble up my smooth lines and such, I can have decent success (For an nerd and Aspie, mind you...). But....the reality is, I'm usually beating on my chest like a gorilla, metaphorically speaking, in the process, when it's not my real nature to do so.

The "extroverted Shau" is just a mask I like to put on every once and a while, but for the most part I'd prefer to stay reserved and quiet. Yet, I've got all the spine of a cactus needle, I have no problems standing up for myself or getting what I want, or seizing opportunity. I'm just not "loud" about doing it.


public face and private face?
I kinda conceptualize my social self as a drag persona, which I find to be a helpful tool for dealing with shyness and social anxiety

Do you find it draining to put the mask/persona on?

What do you think the outcome would be if you didn't have the mask to put on?


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19 Jul 2012, 6:24 am

DogsWithoutHorses wrote:
I kinda conceptualize my social self as a drag persona, which I find to be a helpful tool for dealing with shyness and social anxiety


Yes, this is in many ways true for me. I have a variety of "masks" that I put on depending on the circumstances, but none of them are the real me.

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Do you find it draining to put the mask/persona on?


Yes. When I'm wearing a mask, especially one of the more extroverted ones, I have to take frequent breaks to let my "socio-meter" go back down. When it gets full, I get what I call "socially stressed" and any mask I'm wearing starts to show cracks, which get increasingly worse until the mask falls off.

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What do you think the outcome would be if you didn't have the mask to put on?


Generally less optimal. That's just life sometimes, though.



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19 Jul 2012, 7:24 pm

gross, I can only imagine ?


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19 Jul 2012, 8:31 pm

I agree with many of the above comments. Very intelligent insights throughout.

In my opinion, men are best off not being shy (just as women should be less shy).

Not only because men are expected to take initiative, but if the woman is shy as well, then there is no contact whatsoever. A woman can easily mistake a man who is shy as lack of interest and then just move on.