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27 Jul 2012, 11:10 pm

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Now I see your point of view as well - and agree with it!

Sometimes it feels like North America has a situation where the gals are so hungry for power and money that only the wealthiest and most influential of men will "win" one - in the same way that only the sexiest and most pleasing of Russian women will attract a partner that isn't scum.

What a @#$^#@% messed-up world we live in - no matter what corner of it you happen to be in.


Not so fast - I just did a quick google search and the woman who runs this school, Yulia Varra, is the same woman from the documentary series they did on this: Her school teaches women how to find rich or well off husbands - many of her students have openly stated they are looking for millionaires to marry.

So this is in essence - a school for gold diggers. :lol:


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27 Jul 2012, 11:14 pm

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http://www.globalpost.com/dispatch/news/offbeat/110525/russia-sex-women-men

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Wanderlust: How to marry a Russian man in three months
A shortage of men motivates some Russian women to become better lovers. Here's how they're doing it.

MOSCOW – Yulia Varra says that when a 50-year-old Russian man looks for a girlfriend, he never considers women close to his age.

“He wants somebody under 25,” she said.

While men in other countries might want the same thing, they probably don't have a waiting list of young, pretty maidens interested in a relationship with them.

“We have a very specific situation in Russia, said Varra, 42.

"There are too many women and not enough men."

While anecdotal evidence suggests Russia isn’t the only country where successful women over the age of 40 struggle to find potential husbands, the gap here is wide enough to be statistically significant.

Based on preliminary census results published in March, men account for just 46.3 percent of Russia's population, while women make up 53.7 percent.

There are many reasons for that gap.

After the fall of the Iron Curtain, Russia's population has been steadily decreasing. Since the last survey in 2002, it dropped by another 2.2 million.

But the number of men is declining even more dramatically. Russian women today outnumber men by 10.5 million, primarily due to high male mortality rates fueled by heart disease, accidents and alcoholism, all made worse by dramatic socioeconomic changes in post-Soviet Russia.

But that's not all. Only a fraction of the men who are still alive aren’t violent, impoverished or addicted to alcohol, Varra claims.

“Finding a Russian man over 40 who has money and isn’t an alcoholic is extremely hard,” she said. “Such a man will probably have a car, a weekend cottage, but often also a wife or at least a mistress or two. Yet, to many Russian women this is still a better option than settling for an indebted drunk.”

It all adds up to a pretty bleak situation for Russian women.

But where others her age see despair and frustration, Varra sensed a business opportunity. She runs a class in Moscow called “How to Marry in Three Months” designed to teach women how to overcome the challenges of Russia's man shortage.

The course takes place two to three times a year, and has been so popular that Varra is working on a book of the same title, “How to Marry in Three Months.”

She teaches female customers how to find, keep and marry a man in six easy steps, which run from “Putting oneself in places men of interest frequent,“ all the way to “Getting him to marry you.”

It seems like a really good plan. Would any of the ladies here care to give it a whirl?


You see, there are plenty of places in the world where women have trouble finding partners. It's a problem that affects men and women equally.



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27 Jul 2012, 11:17 pm

Kjas wrote:
BlueMax wrote:
Now I see your point of view as well - and agree with it!

Sometimes it feels like North America has a situation where the gals are so hungry for power and money that only the wealthiest and most influential of men will "win" one - in the same way that only the sexiest and most pleasing of Russian women will attract a partner that isn't scum.

What a @#$^#@% messed-up world we live in - no matter what corner of it you happen to be in.


Not so fast - I just did a quick google search and the woman who runs this school, Yulia Varra, is the same woman from the documentary series they did on this: Her school teaches women how to find rich or well off husbands - many of her students have openly stated they are looking for millionaires to marry.

So this is in essence - a school for gold diggers. :lol:


And most Russian men want young supermodels. So these women are simply reciprocating. Russian culture is very asset oriented. I doubt many of the relationships are amorous.



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28 Jul 2012, 12:14 am

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There is not a single shelter or rehab center for women in the entire Nizhny Novgorod region... ...despite its population of 3.5 million people. There are only 20 such shelters in all of Russia. (For comparison, there are at least 400 in the U.K., a rate of one for every 150,000 people, whereas in Russia there is only one for every 7 million people.) Women are beaten to death and thrown out of the windows, and lately more of them are being shot than ever before, says Marina Pisklakova-Parker, director and founder of Russia’s first hotline and crisis center for women, in Moscow. Tatiana Melnikova, head of the Duma’s Committee on Social Defense, says that of 21,400 murders in the country last year, 14,000—two thirds—were of women who died in domestic disputes (not counting the ones attributed to other causes or not reported at all to the police). And that number is up 50 percent since 2002. The Interior Ministry reports that at least 34,000 women fall victim to domestic violence every year. Frederica Behr of Amnesty International in Moscow says there are three times as many Russian women murdered at home as in any other European country, and one woman dies by unnatural causes per hour in Russia compared with one per week in the U.K.

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28 Jul 2012, 12:42 am

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Plan B: marry a man outside of Russia (that's what the genuinely smart women would be doing)


Yes, marry English men instead. 8)



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28 Jul 2012, 12:51 am

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Not so fast - I just did a quick google search and the woman who runs this school, Yulia Varra, is the same woman from the documentary series they did on this: Her school teaches women how to find rich or well off husbands - many of her students have openly stated they are looking for millionaires to marry.


I think people who do this kind of thing generally get what/who they deserve. The very basis of these kind of relationships is predicated on an uneven power balance so of course this leads to exploitation on one or both sides where "less desirable" guys from America will seek hottie younger women who will seek wealthier guys...They both deserve each other....it doesnt seem liekly that the relationships will be based on actual love, but hey- maybe beggars can't be choosers?

I think I would figure out how to accept being single forever.



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28 Jul 2012, 12:58 am

This article seems interesting.

The Trouble with British Men http://fashion.telegraph.co.uk/news-fea ... -men.html#

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So should we despair of the British man? Initially, talking to these women, I thought so. Yet, reading between the lines, the positive qualities are there. They may not hold open doors for us, but at least they do their own ironing. They may not gush, but nor do they mislead us. They may not come straight to the point, but they do embrace life's ambiguities with sophistication and humour.

Jennifer Rohn agrees. 'On average British men are more articulate and amusing than Americans. They seem more willing to take the funny and absurd angle on things, and to go at life with a healthy sense of fun.' Annie Labura concurs. 'They're clever and sensitive and I can really talk to them.'

Maryam stresses that, for all her misgivings, she would still rather marry a British man than an Iranian. 'They have what we call "clean eyes". They don't stare at other women when their wife isn't there - unlike the Spanish.' She smiles. 'Look, I think your men are really good and nice. If they weren't so lazy, they'd be fantastic.'


I just love the sweeping generalizations and stereotypical perspectives in these articles, I'm pretty sure I know quite a few men that like to look at other women when in a relationship.



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28 Jul 2012, 1:04 am

On that note, I'm not saying that all Russian men are off their heads on Vodka but most of them seem to be going for it, same with the Polish, there are some nice guys in Russia though but it's the bad ones that get the attention.



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28 Jul 2012, 7:33 am

Kjas wrote:
BlueMax wrote:
Now I see your point of view as well - and agree with it!

Sometimes it feels like North America has a situation where the gals are so hungry for power and money that only the wealthiest and most influential of men will "win" one - in the same way that only the sexiest and most pleasing of Russian women will attract a partner that isn't scum.

What a @#$^#@% messed-up world we live in - no matter what corner of it you happen to be in.


Not so fast - I just did a quick google search and the woman who runs this school, Yulia Varra, is the same woman from the documentary series they did on this: Her school teaches women how to find rich or well off husbands - many of her students have openly stated they are looking for millionaires to marry.

So this is in essence - a school for gold diggers. :lol:


Here is her website: http://yulia-varra.ru/

It looks almost like a pornographic site. Must be a big cultural difference between Russia and the Anglophone world. I don't know enough Russian to be able to read the articles, or understand her videos.

Nancy Reagan's technique was to force herself on Ronald, get pregnant, and make him feel obligated to marry her. With Russians having comparatively fewer qualms about abortions, this technique would probably not be as effective in Russia. The emphasis must be on women being as carnally pleasing as possible.



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28 Jul 2012, 8:58 am

Here is an English-language version:

http://en.tantra-club.cz/

Not as steamy as the Russian version, but still quite steamy none-the-less.



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28 Jul 2012, 10:30 am

Here is a Marie Claire article on it

http://www.marieclaire.com/world-report ... ool-russia

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Lessons in Love: The Millionaire Hunters
In the new Russia, a country obsessed with wealth and status, snagging a superrich man is big business — and so are the outrageous classes that claim to give women a leg up.

You have to admire a nation of women who wear stilettos in the snow and make it look easy. It's minus 10 degrees in Moscow, and the frozen sidewalks are teeming with glamorous female shoppers. Clad in fur and sparkly accessories, they navigate the ice in perilously high heels. The trick, it seems, is not to totter gingerly, but to stride ahead fast and never look down.

After mastering this art, you'd think that negotiating love and marriage would be a cinch for modern Russian women. Not so, says Yulia Varra, 38, a Muscovite "love instructor" who runs classes in sex and seduction. In the new capitalist Russia, a country consumed with money and status, snagging a desirable man is a tough business. "Women want a husband who owns a private plane, a yacht, and an oil well. It's not impossible, but they need superfantastic skills to succeed," says Varra, who has a riot of curly blonde hair and wears tight black jeans tucked into silver boots — high-heeled, of course.

Despite the weather, it's positively steamy inside the Moscow basement where Varra holds various courses for women, including "How to Marry in Three Months" and "Oral Sex for Experts." Her seduction school is one of many new businesses designed to help women get ahead in Russia's post-communist marriage market. The economy has boomed, creating a superrich ruling oligarchy and a huge class of cash-loaded entrepreneurs. And, in what is no doubt partly a backlash against the Soviet era — when women toiled in state industries alongside men — many young women today would prefer to marry a millionaire than work to become one themselves.

Varra says she encourages students to look beyond a man's wallet to find other good qualities — to avoid being trapped in a "loveless golden cage" — but outside the new rich elite, decent prospects remain sparse. Russian women outnumber men by more than 10 million, and many men suffer from joblessness, chronic alcoholism, and early death (male life expectancy here is 59).

Holding on to a good man long-term is an equally high-stakes matter. Divorce in Russia is easy; a powerful man can divorce his wife "in an hour," according to one local insider. Under the country's anachronistic divorce laws, husbands are generally not obliged to give their wives a penny, and they are often awarded custody of the children. "Relationships are like roulette for modern Russian women," says the insider. "They have a lot to win and everything to lose, so they can never afford to get complacent."

On a Saturday night at Varra's school, against a backdrop of garish reds and pinks, five students are gyrating their hips and tossing their hair to the manic beat of Russian disco (think early Madonna crossed with Cossack music). And this is just the warm-up. Tonight's class is "How to Be Your Man's Number-One Lover." Lessons include trying out erotic massage on a live male model, practicing fellatio with the aid of bananas and lollipops, and learning how to praise a man's sexual prowess "convincingly."

"Russian men relate to women mainly through sex," Varra tells the students, who range in age from 21 to 60, and who wait as long as a year and a half to attend the popular classes. "So if a man is happy in bed, you're halfway there." But only halfway, she cautions, because even the most sexually acrobatic woman won't succeed unless she knows how to manipulate a man's brain as well. "You must show him you have self-respect, that you are a precious jewel he must cherish," says Varra, who is a trained psychologist with three divorces under her flashy silver belt. "Otherwise he will get bored and drink vodka." She winks. (Interestingly, Varra herself is not looking for another husband; she is focused instead on her booming business.)

Varra's basic approach is to teach women how to gain power over men by using classic feminine and sexual wiles. To the Western feminist mind, it might seem a bit retrograde, yet Varra insists that Russian women are the ultimate post-feminists. "We know all about equality and independence — we've been there," she tells me. During the Soviet era, which ended in 1991, millions of men died in wars and labor camps. Women often ran their households alone, while also working in factories. The problem is that Russian men, says Varra, remain deeply patriarchal and still expect women to be subservient. "Rather than try to change men, which will take another 200 years," she says, "we might as well get whatever we can out of them now."

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28 Jul 2012, 10:32 am

please don't post entire articles, because it violates copyright. just use part of the article in a post. thanks!


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28 Jul 2012, 11:31 am

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please don't post entire articles, because it violates copyright. just use part of the article in a post. thanks!


Sorry. :hail:

Did Alex get in trouble before?



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28 Jul 2012, 11:35 am

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hyperlexian wrote:
please don't post entire articles, because it violates copyright. just use part of the article in a post. thanks!


Sorry. :hail:

Did Alex get in trouble before?

not if it is his own article, or if he has permission from the author.


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28 Jul 2012, 11:39 am

On a serious note, it does seem more fruitful to me to look for a partner overseas than here in the States.

Even in more civilized places like Japan, women past 30 are considered unmarriable. So I feel like I could get a relative bargain on a "fat" (aka not fat at all) "old" Japanese girl over there.

There's a site, don't have the URL, but it's called Happier Abroad, bunch of guys who had much better luck dating outside of USA. Some of it, yes, is a bit misogynistic and whatever, but there's a lot of truth in that site.

That all being said, I feel like I tend to hit it off better with most foreign girls I talk to. Hell, even in different states I can do better.