Not beleiving in the concept of soul mates, destiny, etc

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25 Feb 2013, 11:49 am

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I'm a fatalist-determinist so basically it means if I am with some one then I see it that I was meant to be with that someone.


I was trying to think of a way to debate this, but I have to confess this is a philosophically valid point of view (with a minor adjustment).

I'd still say that the concept of "soulmate" is pointless because you can't know if he/she is your soulmate or not anyway.



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25 Feb 2013, 12:25 pm

MCalavera wrote:
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I'm a fatalist-determinist so basically it means if I am with some one then I see it that I was meant to be with that someone.


I was trying to think of a way to debate this, but I have to confess this is a philosophically valid point of view (with a minor adjustment).

I'd still say that the concept of "soulmate" is pointless because you can't know if he/she is your soulmate or not anyway.


Oh sure, we could hate each other, but I still say we are meant to be together if we happen to find ourselves in that situation!



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25 Feb 2013, 12:31 pm

But how would you know that you'd be together for life? You can't.



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25 Feb 2013, 12:42 pm

no that's true, I can't "Know" that. But I can simply not question it.

if I'm with some one I go into it with the same mindset regardless.. but going into it with the mindset that 'This may only be temporary' is a good way if not to make it be temporary.. certainly cause problems.

I'm not telling anyone else they have to believe this way... but for me.. it is comforting.. and that's the whole point.


I'd rather have an incorrect belief and be happy, than be right and be miserable.



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25 Feb 2013, 1:05 pm

rabbittss wrote:
no that's true, I can't "Know" that. But I can simply not question it.

if I'm with some one I go into it with the same mindset regardless.. but going into it with the mindset that 'This may only be temporary' is a good way if not to make it be temporary.. certainly cause problems.

I'm not telling anyone else they have to believe this way... but for me.. it is comforting.. and that's the whole point.


I'd rather have an incorrect belief and be happy, than be right and be miserable.


I agree with this. 100% :)



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25 Feb 2013, 7:33 pm

While I don't believe in the idea that there is a perfect person for everyone, I think that most people have a chance to find a good match.
The problem is that few people listen to their instincts enough. If you pay attention, your body will tell you if you need to eat fruit or meat. And the same holds true for love.
Yet most people are eating what tastes good or following the latest diet craze and focusing on superficiality instead of properly paying attention.
I listen to my instincts and I have yet to find a case where acting otherwise would have been beneficial. It can even apply to people. I may not understand the motives behind every action, but I can understand the person. Whether they are stubborn or compliant. Whether they are meek or dangerous. And it doesn't take long to understand a person when you're trying to understand their general self instead of every detail.

To summarize; I think that if we are properly observant, we can find that the world has people we can relate to in various degrees, even to the point of love.


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25 Feb 2013, 9:39 pm

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No, you're not. :tongue:

Why not? With the advent of the Internet, it's even more likely.

I was really just referring to your use of the word "bound", which suggests inevitability or destiny. It doesn't mean "more likely", it means you have no choice.



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26 Feb 2013, 5:42 am

Quote:
Aristotle believed virtues led to happiness

The happiness that Aristotle spoke of was not necessarily the same that we would think of today. Today our view of happiness tends to be hedonic. We want to feel good immediately and tend not to think too far ahead. So we see a night out or a pleasant activity as a route to happiness.
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anyway the short of it is, you get out what you put in :)

http://coachingtohappiness.com/aristotl ... iness.html



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26 Feb 2013, 6:03 am

Stalk wrote:
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Aristotle believed virtues led to happiness

anyway the short of it is, you get out what you put in :)


And i believe in not subjecting yourself to crap - leads to happiness.

Like on these forums you can read over and over again; "Oh, he's so mean to me" = bloody obvious what that girl should do to become happier.


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26 Feb 2013, 6:31 am

I think I do kind of believe there is someone, and probably actually more than one, out there for everyone. I'm not sure if I'd call it a soulmate necessarily, because I don't really believe in that concept in general. Now whether you're going to find that 'someone' in your lifetime is another thing entirely. I don't agree that you can just sit back and wait for them to waltz into your life because it's probably not going to happen, but if you leave yourself open to the opportunity, and the belief that it is possible, then you have far more chances of it happening.

At least that's what they say in 'The Secret' apparently. And the author of that book was on Oprah so it must be true. Right? :D



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27 Feb 2013, 10:43 am

I agree with above, sometimes you have to put effort in.



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02 Mar 2013, 8:16 am

Sectorstar, I agree with what you said. I don't believe in sort of thing either. Although there are ways of improving ones chances no matter the starting point, nothing is guaranteed. I know of some people (NTs included) who have been single most or even all of their lives.