Any other guys "dropping out" of dating completely

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05 Apr 2013, 5:57 am

I reckon that part of the problem might be your age! I am thinking of my female friends/colleagues and basically all the ones that you'd want a relationship with (and I'm talking personality and looks) are married off by their mid-late 20s. Then there's a gap of about 10/15 years and then there are lots of divorced women in their late 30s/early 40s. So if you lived near me your choice would mainly be restricted to girls in their early 20s or older women in their mid-late 30s/early 40s. And those women who are in the late 20s/early 30s have probably given up on dating too!
Bit tongue in cheek, but I like to think there may be a serious point in there somewhere. I



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05 Apr 2013, 6:36 am

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I reckon that part of the problem might be your age! I am thinking of my female friends/colleagues and basically all the ones that you'd want a relationship with (and I'm talking personality and looks) are married off by their mid-late 20s. Then there's a gap of about 10/15 years and then there are lots of divorced women in their late 30s/early 40s. So if you lived near me your choice would mainly be restricted to girls in their early 20s or older women in their mid-late 30s/early 40s. And those women who are in the late 20s/early 30s have probably given up on dating too!
Bit tongue in cheek, but I like to think there may be a serious point in there somewhere. I

it's depressing because it's true.



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05 Apr 2013, 7:28 am

wotsits wrote:
I reckon that part of the problem might be your age! I am thinking of my female friends/colleagues and basically all the ones that you'd want a relationship with (and I'm talking personality and looks) are married off by their mid-late 20s. Then there's a gap of about 10/15 years and then there are lots of divorced women in their late 30s/early 40s. So if you lived near me your choice would mainly be restricted to girls in their early 20s or older women in their mid-late 30s/early 40s. And those women who are in the late 20s/early 30s have probably given up on dating too!
Bit tongue in cheek, but I like to think there may be a serious point in there somewhere. I


People marry in their mid-twenties? :P

I've never seen that happen. It might be because my female friends and relatives of the age are educating themselves and creating careers (including myself), but it still sounds far too young for me.

There's nothing wrong with Ratae's age, I'm under image that it is the very age people actually start consider of settling down and having children.


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05 Apr 2013, 7:40 am

Well, I'm 40 now and I have lived your experience, so as much as it can help, this is what I learnt.

- Getting online dates (just getting dates) is about how your picture looks. Period. Go to gym. Get a tunning. And after time enough (from a few months to a year) take pictures of you outdoors. Nice dress and show some flesh (or dress tide), not too much (it's not elegant) but enough to show that you have a gym body. Take pictures in different places. Get a tripod if you don't have anybody that can't take shots of you. Don't smile and don't look at the camera. If you can be with an animal or doing something interesting, much better. (Yeaps, there was surveys about that).

- During the date, it's all about:

(1) Your self-confidence. Being confortable and having a good time. The best advice here (the one that worked with me) is: just have fun and have a good time. If she enjoys being with you, and you're hot, it's very likely she will want to have sex with you.

(2) Your financial status. After 30s serious relationships is about your capacity as financial provider. From 30 to 40 poverty kills love, it's that easy. If you can't be a financial provider, you're pretty screwed (however, you still can get sex, but serious stuff... it's gonna be more difficult).

- Getting not-online dates. After 30s, it's difficult. Period. There's no many single women in their 30s (most of single women are under 25 or over 40-45), and the ones that remain single are less social, so it's not that easy to find them, neither in courses and so. The easiest way to know them is to have a wide social circle. If you don't have it, well, too bad. And since you got online, I suppose you don't.

There's no miracles for that. Try to be more social, get into clubs (where people join to do some activity, not discos), try to improve your social circle so you can be invited to parties. And be very patient, that is gonna take time.

My advice: take it as a long term goal.
- Enter a gym. Now.
- Start to improve your social life. Now.
- Start to work hard on your career and economical status. Now.
Those things ara gonna take time, so you should start now.

Besides that, you're gonna need:
- Self-confidence.
- Probably some nice dressing (not mandatory, though).
- Some nice hobby helps (being in a music group, or whatever).
Those things can take very few time to build. You can discover your self-confidence from one day to another. But , when it happens, if you haven't improved yet your fitness, social life and economical status, it can be useless.


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05 Apr 2013, 7:40 am

Maybe people just marry earlier in the UK? I'm not saying that that's the case, but it could affect the age-range of women who are available and not married or in long-term relationships! But, as I said, it was a tongue-in-cheek comment and I would hate to think that anyone thought I knew what I was talking about! :lol:



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05 Apr 2013, 12:25 pm

Dropping out, I already dropped out and I'm 17.



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06 Apr 2013, 4:06 pm

it's sad to slowly start seeing the age groups get lower and lower of people who are giving up dating...


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06 Apr 2013, 4:11 pm

Don't give up on love, guys, you have to be persistent.



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06 Apr 2013, 4:40 pm

Yes, it's because I don't know how to have a relationship. Not because I can't get dates.

Until I fix my issues, which could take a decade or so, I am going to swear off dating. I already took a one-year break. Then, tried it again, and it was worse. then, tried more, and it was worse still.



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06 Apr 2013, 4:50 pm

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Then, tried it again, and it was worse. then, tried more, and it was worse still.


Maybe because truly the only way for it to get better is to practice. If you swear it off, you will tend to lose skill and good intuition over time. Best to just be persistent about getting yourself into low-pressure situations, or at least keep socializing with girls if you can, even if you're not trying to date any. Which isn't to say that it's not important to work on the big issues; just that you want to be doing all of this together at the same time.



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06 Apr 2013, 4:57 pm

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Tyri0n wrote:
Then, tried it again, and it was worse. then, tried more, and it was worse still.


Maybe because truly the only way for it to get better is to practice. If you swear it off, you will tend to lose skill and good intuition over time. Best to just be persistent about getting yourself into low-pressure situations, or at least keep socializing with girls if you can, even if you're not trying to date any. Which isn't to say that it's not important to work on the big issues; just that you want to be doing all of this together at the same time.


I've dated plenty of women.

The problem is that I'm crazy and hurt them. The evil tendencies actually get worse the more I practice, and they are hard to control.

But just being friends with more women sounds like a good idea.



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06 Apr 2013, 5:24 pm

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06 Apr 2013, 5:45 pm

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But just being friends with more women sounds like a good idea.


:D Always is, in my experience.

Didn't mean to minimize what you were facing, I wanted to apologize because I didn't really know the nature of the problem. I just had one off-handed thought, which was that isolation would tend to work against anyone in the relationship department. :oops:



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06 Apr 2013, 6:04 pm

Greb wrote:
My advice: take it as a long term goal.
- Enter a gym. Now.
- Start to improve your social life. Now.
- Start to work hard on your career and economical status. Now.
Those things ara gonna take time, so you should start now.


I've given up on dating until the above are settled.
Mostly the economical status, and gym thing.
I have no desire for a 'rich' social life, and I'm a student so a career isn't quite in the books right now.



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06 Apr 2013, 6:51 pm

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wotsits wrote:
I reckon that part of the problem might be your age! I am thinking of my female friends/colleagues and basically all the ones that you'd want a relationship with (and I'm talking personality and looks) are married off by their mid-late 20s. Then there's a gap of about 10/15 years and then there are lots of divorced women in their late 30s/early 40s. So if you lived near me your choice would mainly be restricted to girls in their early 20s or older women in their mid-late 30s/early 40s. And those women who are in the late 20s/early 30s have probably given up on dating too!
Bit tongue in cheek, but I like to think there may be a serious point in there somewhere. I


People marry in their mid-twenties? :P

I've never seen that happen. It might be because my female friends and relatives of the age are educating themselves and creating careers (including myself), but it still sounds far too young for me.

There's nothing wrong with Ratae's age, I'm under image that it is the very age people actually start consider of settling down and having children.

No people don't marry in their mid 20's. But generally by that point they're starting to settle down into long term relationships that eventually lead to marriage around 28-30. I'm 31 now and this is true for virtually all of my peers. And yes they're educated, career focused too. The fact is most people get married between 27-30. Buy a house around 30-32 and are generally seriously thinking about kids around that age too.



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07 Apr 2013, 3:53 pm

^ at least we have that age range going a lot more for us than against as it would have been in our parents' generation. My parents were married when they were 20 and had my older brother less than a year later. At 30yo living where the highest % of adult children living w/ parents/family are in the entire country, I don't feel nearly as far behind as if I were 30 in 1970 when economics & culture meant people got married much younger.


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