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31 May 2013, 6:56 pm

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You do have some criteria that isn't looks-based. I'll pick it out of your post:

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. But on the other hand, I want someone who will understand me for who I am, and does not necessarily have to wear the pants in the family.


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I also want someone who doesn't mind me ranting about whatever subject I am on.



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Perhaps sharing similar or converging interests would be good.


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I tend to be reserved (although I am trying to bit on girls more and be more friendly to people), and I tend to usually talk about intellectual things, but around my other friend I can crack a dumb joke, in the vein of Bill Hicks, Doug Stanhope, George Carlin. But I tend to be that way around him, since much of my stuff is politically incorrect.


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I like jazz, rap, rock, and foreign. I am interested in baseball, fishing, writing, finance, radical politics (agorism), libertarianism, economics, stock trading, walking, comedy, sports memorabilia, business, history, philosophy, electronics, programming, and learning. I am entrepreneurial very dedicated to what I do, more reserved, but if I get to know you, I tend to be very open. I tend to be very conservative about things.




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I bolded the crucial bits.

Basically you are looking for a girl who is very passive. She will let you ramble or rant on any topic and will not try to divert you or be horrified by your politically incorrect or conservative opinions. Perhaps she shares those opinions herself. But the important trait she has is passivity. A non-passive girl will tire very quickly of whatever you are saying and will have no patience for you or your quirks. Hitting on girls based on looks is bound to fail since what you are looking for is actually very specific and not looks based.

The odds of this theoretical girl actually sharing your interests while having the personality you hope for is so slim it's not worth focusing on. Your interests are all over the place and you are looking for a girl who will tolerate lectures on them regardless of whether or not they interest her so passivity is more important than finding a girl whose interests overlap with yours.


I don't mean conservative politics though ( although my politic may or may not be that way <libertarian>). I mean more on my outlook on life, how I invest, and the risks I take. I guess what I mean by trying to figure this out is kind of solidify it into a person, and not just a figment. Maybe I am over thinking this. I am kinda a game plan kinda person, and so when something like this comes up, I want to deconstruct it, and thus when I can't find a solution that will bring me results, I start worrying about my future, etc. .



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31 May 2013, 9:01 pm

zacb wrote:
Janissy wrote:
You do have some criteria that isn't looks-based. I'll pick it out of your post:

zacb wrote:
. But on the other hand, I want someone who will understand me for who I am, and does not necessarily have to wear the pants in the family.


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I also want someone who doesn't mind me ranting about whatever subject I am on.



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Perhaps sharing similar or converging interests would be good.


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I tend to be reserved (although I am trying to bit on girls more and be more friendly to people), and I tend to usually talk about intellectual things, but around my other friend I can crack a dumb joke, in the vein of Bill Hicks, Doug Stanhope, George Carlin. But I tend to be that way around him, since much of my stuff is politically incorrect.


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I like jazz, rap, rock, and foreign. I am interested in baseball, fishing, writing, finance, radical politics (agorism), libertarianism, economics, stock trading, walking, comedy, sports memorabilia, business, history, philosophy, electronics, programming, and learning. I am entrepreneurial very dedicated to what I do, more reserved, but if I get to know you, I tend to be very open. I tend to be very conservative about things.




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I bolded the crucial bits.

Basically you are looking for a girl who is very passive. She will let you ramble or rant on any topic and will not try to divert you or be horrified by your politically incorrect or conservative opinions. Perhaps she shares those opinions herself. But the important trait she has is passivity. A non-passive girl will tire very quickly of whatever you are saying and will have no patience for you or your quirks. Hitting on girls based on looks is bound to fail since what you are looking for is actually very specific and not looks based.

The odds of this theoretical girl actually sharing your interests while having the personality you hope for is so slim it's not worth focusing on. Your interests are all over the place and you are looking for a girl who will tolerate lectures on them regardless of whether or not they interest her so passivity is more important than finding a girl whose interests overlap with yours.


I don't mean conservative politics though ( although my politic may or may not be that way <libertarian>). I mean more on my outlook on life, how I invest, and the risks I take. I guess what I mean by trying to figure this out is kind of solidify it into a person, and not just a figment. Maybe I am over thinking this. I am kinda a game plan kinda person, and so when something like this comes up, I want to deconstruct it, and thus when I can't find a solution that will bring me results, I start worrying about my future, etc. .


I'm a game plan kind of person too. But relationships aren't planned. Ask any married couple if they planned to meet. They might even say it was an unfortunate accident with a wink. Tasks require plans. Do you want to be with a taskmaster? And do you think girls want to be with a taskmaster? I don't mean that you are a taskmaster, but relationships don't need planning. Structure, yes. But setting boundaries and limits are not the same as making plans. This is a good thing because relaxing is easier, presuming you are with the right person.



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01 Jun 2013, 12:16 am

Dream girls don't exist man, I've spent a long time trying to find one and to no avail I find myself settling for what seems to be mediocre standards. Aint that some BS, but it's true we live in an imperfect universe, my existence, your existence it doesn't matter where not meant to reach past our best. Doesn't mean there's no use in trying though you'll learn as I had to that perfection is only a state of mind. Your dream girl is how you see her, I met a girl once I should've grabbed and held onto but I messed up big time, her appearance didn't matter to me her opinions mattered more, who she was as a person mattered more. It's gonna be the girl you'll be able to talk to and never have to stop talking to. Don't worry about finding a girl right off the back who knows what Agorism is, if you a man can obsess about it then any female out there could easily practice it as well, along with any other beliefs you might hold, maybe not all of the same belief, but like I said no one's perfect. I know everyone keeps saying improve yourself first, let me put it this way if your not in a suicidal bout of depression then you're fine, you're a-okay only make yourself as good as you want to. You still have a life to live, and life should come before love.

And remember if you truly want to find love then it's up to you to put yourself in a position where it's possible to meet other women, don't rely on chance, cause so far chance has screwed me over time and time again



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01 Jun 2013, 4:12 am

JanuaryMan wrote:
My dreamgirl doesn't exist :cry:


Is that by any chance a reference to this song by Neutral Milk Hotel? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yWNT11IqSXM

To the OP: Look, you gave a long, and wide-ranging list of interests, which is, in many ways, a good thing, because it shows that you're an interesting person, but the odds of you finding a girl who is mutually interested in all of these things is very slim, especially if you're basing your potential partner's off of primarily looks. But maybe you can find someone who has SOME interests in common with you. Say you meet a girl who also enjoys jazz music, then sure, maybe it's alright if you rant about your unorthodox political views from time to time, but only if you're OK with listening to her talk at length from time to time about the unusual subjects that she's passionate about, like, say, southern Gothic literature. Otherwise, it looks to me like you're looking for a girl who'll just passively go along with whatever you want, like Janissy said, and I'm assuming you don't actually want that.



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01 Jun 2013, 2:06 pm

I just thought of something. Maybe I should try Salsa :) . But first I have to check to see if they have that in my town.



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01 Jun 2013, 2:34 pm

Do you have a hobby that involves doing something rather discussing things intellectually? The problem with intellectual discussions is it's hard to just relax and relate over that stuff. I think most women would prefer more personal topics, like bringing up past experiences you've had. They probably want to know more about you than just your opinions on various topics. Opinions and intellectual interests might change with time. You need to be comfortable with sharing more than just that.



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03 Jun 2013, 11:53 am

DialAForAwesome wrote:
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The only way to get to know people by personality is by being exposed to them, and while there are mixed-results options like online dating or interest groups I think there are other possibilities for you. You say you hit on a lot of girls, so it sounds like you're comfortable socializing extensively and possibly even with being turned down. Leave the flirting for later and talk to some of these girls on a more personal level to see if your personalities mesh, it's not that unusual in some public places.


He's not comfortable with being turned down. He resents women who turn him down and blames them for "turning him into a misogonist." He needs an attitude adjustment before he can even begin to make progress.


It might help if you could use spell check :D . But as far as harems, no, I don't plan on it any time soon. But as far as the attitude adjustment, it's hard. I have never had a "permanent base", I have moved around a lot, never felt accepted. In addition, I am living with my grandparents, haven't been able to find a job, my father passed, and I have not been able to get as many friends. In all reality, I just want maybe a couple friends, a girlfriend, and a decent job (even if it is a low paying one). But it seems that in order to get a girlfriend, you have to just through a bunch of f***ing hoops just to even get a shot. I have tried several dating sites, gone to several groups, try to volunteer, and even see if there would be support for certain groups, and I keep getting turned down. Where are the cute smart girls? Am I an oddity that no one wants to hang out with?


My work computer doesn't have a spell check function on my browser and I really don't care about grammer as long as my points are getting accross clearly. In this case, they aren't but I think it has more to do with you than my spelling..........

I have plenty of advice for you but I've given it so many times on this board to various people who don't listen, that it would just feel redundent. If I have the motivation later I may cut and paste some old advice eventually........


Start practicing what you preach nd stop shoving what you say down people's throats, then maybe they will listen to you.

Harsh? Yeah. True, though? HELL yeah.

Don't mind me, I'm just sick of people who do this sh** constantly.

I always practice what I preach (or at least try too.) Unfortunately some people are beyond help. :wink:


To the OP, you need to get this "dream girl" crap out of your lexicon. Dream girls aren't sustaining because eventually the glamour wears off and you realize that you're unfairly putting putting all this responsibility and expectation onto someone else. You can only get real validation from yourself and (unless they have zero self-esteem too) any girl you like is going to run for the hills at the first sign of codependency.



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03 Jun 2013, 2:26 pm

Unless your dream girl is having a wife with whom you will never get divorced with, instead of a perfect hot and smart girl that hunts bear. Geese, why don't you try for compatibility.


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05 Jun 2013, 9:59 am

Hey guys. I have come to the realization that I need something constructive to do, so I am going to learn PHP and Java. That way, I can code my ideas :D .



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05 Jun 2013, 10:12 am

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
Geekonychus wrote:
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The only way to get to know people by personality is by being exposed to them, and while there are mixed-results options like online dating or interest groups I think there are other possibilities for you. You say you hit on a lot of girls, so it sounds like you're comfortable socializing extensively and possibly even with being turned down. Leave the flirting for later and talk to some of these girls on a more personal level to see if your personalities mesh, it's not that unusual in some public places.


He's not comfortable with being turned down. He resents women who turn him down and blames them for "turning him into a misogonist." He needs an attitude adjustment before he can even begin to make progress.


I've found your Dream girl!!

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Is that Liara from Mass Effect?



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07 Jun 2013, 5:09 am

Dream girls exist only in dreams.



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05 Jul 2013, 10:17 pm

zacb wrote:
Mindslave wrote:
zacb wrote:
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The only way to get to know people by personality is by being exposed to them, and while there are mixed-results options like online dating or interest groups I think there are other possibilities for you. You say you hit on a lot of girls, so it sounds like you're comfortable socializing extensively and possibly even with being turned down. Leave the flirting for later and talk to some of these girls on a more personal level to see if your personalities mesh, it's not that unusual in some public places.


And to answer you, I have been trying that, but I can't find anyone I can relate to. It feels like I am a Frankenstein, since I am serious, and tend to talk about intellectual thing. And to retort the other poster, I am f***ing trying, that is why I am asking this question.


See, that's just it. You're trying. Don't try. You don't have to try. Just do what you would already do, and if you meet a girl, great, and if you don't, keep looking into your interests.

It seems like most of your interests are things you can study on your own time, things that don't change much and are more or less static. Girls change, and you have to keep up. Not for her sake, not because its what you think she wants, but because two people change together. It's not employment, its commitment. Commitment is mutual, employment is one-way. Its not a science; there's no right or wrong way to care about someone. Some people are too demanding, so those gals aren't for you. (Those women aren't for me either) So instead of looking for a girlfriend, look for friends of all types. Maybe one friendship will grow. But its not about "success". It's about life, and just living.


You are right. I need to chill out. I guess I am just tired of rejection, and I want someone to care. Not to sound like a baby, but I just want to be understood.


I understand what you're going through. If it makes you feel any better, I'll have you know that I'm a girl and I'm looking for a boyfriend for similar reasons. If you want, you can private message me. I would love to have a good conversation too. And really, I was someone who understands me too.



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05 Jul 2013, 10:18 pm

The whole thing I am telling you is the truth, trust me. :)