8 Reasons Straight Men Don't Want To Get Married

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24 Jun 2013, 6:17 pm

Nambo wrote:
... Give me a 1950s Doris Day in a Gingham dress.

Give me a 30-ish Betty Page in a leather corset.



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24 Jun 2013, 6:42 pm

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Plus, video games, cable TV, and the Internet provide entertainment that didn't used to be available. Is this good for society? Probably not, as falling birth rates and increasing single-motherhood demonstrate. But people respond to incentives. If you want more men to marry, it needs to be a more attractive proposition.


So, what would render marriage more attractive to men?


Abolish feminism for a start, Women seemed to have abandoned the positive traits of Womanhood, viewing them as some sort of insult, and taken up the negative aspects of men in there place.
Besides, what man wants to marry another man, even if he does look like a pretty Woman?

Give me a 1950s Doris Day in a Gingham dress.

Um... a man who believes in equality? Rather than wanting marriage to you acquiring a slave, which I take it is what you want? My god, the amount of sexism still present in the world is unbelievable...



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25 Jun 2013, 3:19 am

AstroGeek wrote:
Nambo wrote:
ArrantPariah wrote:
The Article wrote:
Plus, video games, cable TV, and the Internet provide entertainment that didn't used to be available. Is this good for society? Probably not, as falling birth rates and increasing single-motherhood demonstrate. But people respond to incentives. If you want more men to marry, it needs to be a more attractive proposition.


So, what would render marriage more attractive to men?


Abolish feminism for a start, Women seemed to have abandoned the positive traits of Womanhood, viewing them as some sort of insult, and taken up the negative aspects of men in there place.
Besides, what man wants to marry another man, even if he does look like a pretty Woman?

Give me a 1950s Doris Day in a Gingham dress.

Um... a man who believes in equality? Rather than wanting marriage to you acquiring a slave, which I take it is what you want? My god, the amount of sexism still present in the world is unbelievable...


Now thats a typical representation of whats gone wrong with the modern Woman and why Men are less attracted to them, always negative, always jumping to the worst possible conclusion, where in my post did I give any indication that I wanted a slave?

You have unfortunately been perverted by the propaganda of those Women haters that taught us that Femininity was bad, that have destroyed marriage, and that wanted Women to become the same wage slaves the Men already were, yeah, getting up and having to go to some boring job for the bulk of your life, and you thought you were missing out on something better than having and raising Children, fools.

I foresee a marriage to a Cat for you.



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25 Jun 2013, 3:43 am

Just marry someone from Asia!


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25 Jun 2013, 3:57 am

Nambo wrote:
AstroGeek wrote:
Nambo wrote:
ArrantPariah wrote:
The Article wrote:
Plus, video games, cable TV, and the Internet provide entertainment that didn't used to be available. Is this good for society? Probably not, as falling birth rates and increasing single-motherhood demonstrate. But people respond to incentives. If you want more men to marry, it needs to be a more attractive proposition.


So, what would render marriage more attractive to men?


Abolish feminism for a start, Women seemed to have abandoned the positive traits of Womanhood, viewing them as some sort of insult, and taken up the negative aspects of men in there place.
Besides, what man wants to marry another man, even if he does look like a pretty Woman?

Give me a 1950s Doris Day in a Gingham dress.

Um... a man who believes in equality? Rather than wanting marriage to you acquiring a slave, which I take it is what you want? My god, the amount of sexism still present in the world is unbelievable...


Now thats a typical representation of whats gone wrong with the modern Woman and why Men are less attracted to them, always negative, always jumping to the worst possible conclusion, where in my post did I give any indication that I wanted a slave?

You have unfortunately been perverted by the propaganda of those Women haters that taught us that Femininity was bad, that have destroyed marriage, and that wanted Women to become the same wage slaves the Men already were, yeah, getting up and having to go to some boring job for the bulk of your life, and you thought you were missing out on something better than having and raising Children, fools.

I foresee a marriage to a Cat for you.


Work is not boring. Staying stuck in a house with a toddler is.
You can work and still be feminine. They don't even make you chop your breasts off any more! It's great!


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25 Jun 2013, 4:18 am

Nambo wrote:
AstroGeek wrote:
Nambo wrote:
ArrantPariah wrote:
The Article wrote:
Plus, video games, cable TV, and the Internet provide entertainment that didn't used to be available. Is this good for society? Probably not, as falling birth rates and increasing single-motherhood demonstrate. But people respond to incentives. If you want more men to marry, it needs to be a more attractive proposition.


So, what would render marriage more attractive to men?


Abolish feminism for a start, Women seemed to have abandoned the positive traits of Womanhood, viewing them as some sort of insult, and taken up the negative aspects of men in there place.
Besides, what man wants to marry another man, even if he does look like a pretty Woman?

Give me a 1950s Doris Day in a Gingham dress.

Um... a man who believes in equality? Rather than wanting marriage to you acquiring a slave, which I take it is what you want? My god, the amount of sexism still present in the world is unbelievable...


Now thats a typical representation of whats gone wrong with the modern Woman and why Men are less attracted to them, always negative, always jumping to the worst possible conclusion, where in my post did I give any indication that I wanted a slave?

You have unfortunately been perverted by the propaganda of those Women haters that taught us that Femininity was bad, that have destroyed marriage, and that wanted Women to become the same wage slaves the Men already were, yeah, getting up and having to go to some boring job for the bulk of your life, and you thought you were missing out on something better than having and raising Children, fools.

I foresee a marriage to a Cat for you.


I think its always funny when men cry about the evil feminists, that were causing women to change the gender roles. So until 12, when I already knew that I never want to become a housewive, I have never read any book of a feminist. But unlike many other girls I experienced 12 years of my father thinking he has to be treated as a god, and is allowed to beat us and abuse us and laughing at my mother, when she was crying, for her being depending on him, because of him earning the money.

No feminist caused us to avoid to depend on a men. It was men. I choose to focus on work, because its to only way to make sure, that I will never be depending on a men and never give a men the power to treat me as a worthless cockroach, and never be forced to helplessly watch him treat our children like worthless cockroaches. It was not a feminist that told us that I would be worthless if I dont earn money, it was my father and sadly when I was young, lots of other girls experienced the same in their families and choose out of the same causes, that they never want to become a helpless housemom. And it is this beating and treatment that I have emancipated myself, not family life. Me having a good job does not prevent having a good family with a good guy, there is no misadvantage to that because of me having a good job. They only thing it can prevent is an a**hole, thinking I would have less worth because of me financially depending on him. For this its a great misadvantage that I have a job, because the moment someone will treat me this way I am simply gone. Thats the only thing that is prevented by me having a job, so if someone is disturbed by it, that he cant treat me as s**t any longer because of me working and having a job, he is a dumb bastard.

Good men dont need to be afraid of their wives not depending on them. Good men only have advantages from that.

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You have unfortunately been perverted by the propaganda of those Women haters that taught us that Femininity was bad, that have destroyed marriage, and that wanted Women to become the same wage slaves the Men already were, yeah, getting up and having to go to some boring job for the bulk of your life, and you thought you were missing out on something better than having and raising Children, fools.


I only see advantages for you from feminism. It freed you from you being forced to be wage slave, now you can stay at home, and instead have children with your woman and raise them. So what are your arguing about if you say yourself, that its so great and working is so horrible? :) From your point of view, there are only advantages for you from it. :)



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25 Jun 2013, 4:55 am

I agree that most men are Bastards, (and I have forever wondered why these are the sort of men even feminist women prefer), and no woman should have no choice in life but to be used by such a man, but I think this is another issue entirely that has been used by the male propagators of feminism to destroy the Woman herself.

Why should Woman have to change when its the man that is wrong?
This is what I cannot understand about feminism, they think that the good Woman is wrong so instead they try to be like the evil man.

Iam sure the world would have been a better place if the social manipulators had come up with a different "ism", Masculinism, where Men complain that they are kept by selfish Woman as wage slaves, whose only purpose in life is to work down the mines for 16 hours a day whilst the Womanfolk can stay at home cooking cakes and chatting over the garden fence, and yes, the magazines and the TV have such influence over your thinking that they could easily have got you to embrace Sexism the other way around.
Then men could have stayed at home with their families, helping raise the kids, being gentle like Women were.
Maybe this is more how life used to be before Industrialisation and Capitalism took men from the home and put them in factories, and now they have convinced Women that it is in their own best interest to do the same, now I wonder why they did that then?

AS for the poor kids, not only an absent father for most of their young lives, but no an absent Mother as well!, no wonder folk are growing up so stressed.



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25 Jun 2013, 5:19 am

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I think its always funny when men cry about the evil feminists, that were causing women to change the gender roles. So until 12, when I already knew that I never want to become a housewive, I have never read any book of a feminist. But unlike many other girls I experienced 12 years of my father thinking he has to be treated as a god, and is allowed to beat us and abuse us and laughing at my mother, when she was crying, for her being depending on him, because of him earning the money.


That is not related to gender. It was the same for me, and I'm a man.

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No feminist caused us to avoid to depend on a men.


If you read the article, none of the 8 reasons was 'they don't depend on me'. Many men don't want dependent women. Indeed, women that are dependent and sticky are barely successful with men.

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Me having a good job does not prevent having a good family with a good guy, there is no misadvantage to that because of me having a good job.


The same. None of the reasons in the article says 'she has a good job'.

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For this its a great misadvantage that I have a job, because the moment someone will treat me this way I am simply gone.


Great!! ! I had some debates about abuse and I have said more than once: 'It's not that complicated. The first time he acts as a jerk, bye baby. As easy as that. You don't wait until he has abused repeteadly and destroyed your self-steem. You don't give a bloody second chance'. When I said that, I had no empathy and I didn't undertand women. I was a 'machista'. Now you say it and it's feminism??? Oh, c'mon.


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Why should Woman have to change when its the man that is wrong?
This is what I cannot understand about feminism, they think that the good Woman is wrong so instead they try to be like the evil man.
What do you want to do, when at the moment your partner shows issues, that need to change you are already depending on him? I dont think my mother would have married my father, if he had shown that behavior before. I dont know if he did on purpose or not, but if he had shown that behavior before they married and had little kids depending on her, my mom would simply had gone. So you cant predict the future, and waiting until its too late, doesnt help either.

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Maybe this is more how life used to be before Industrialisation and Capitalism took men from the home and put them in factories, and now they have convinced Women that it is in their own best interest to do the same, now I wonder why they did that then?
I cant tell you. I know that people are always talking bad about more traditional muslims and so on, but from the behavior of our turk muslim workers against their women and daughters I often see a very different treatment. So they DO have a lot of prejudices when it comes to woman and working and so on, I never denie it. But in opposition as I experienced it in western europe culture, at least they appreciate a woman doing "her" work. I am in the building sector and when turk families come and watch a house they want to buy, and the woman says no, kitchen too small, it is done. No discussion about it. No "...but gnagnagna I earn the money so I have to decide...." The woman is not the slave of the kitchen and the housework, but the queen and ruler of everything around the housework that is normally respected and appreciated as I have experienced in turk families. While I experienced myself and often in other families too: You only do kitchen, you only do housework, what you do is worthless and because of that so are you. It was not western feminist that caused for people looking as house- and kitchen- and familywork as something worthless, that thinking sadly already existed and caused them to fight against it. I do agree with you, that some lunatic feminists went the wrong way, by simply agreeing into that wrong thinking and instead raising the appreciation of volunteer family work. But beside some lunatic old 60ies feminists thats normally what todays feminism is about. Not anymore being forced to fill a certain role depending on your sex, but simply both partners being free to decide on their own, how they want to live together, without misjudging either payed work nor unpayed work.

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AS for the poor kids, not only an absent father for most of their young lives, but no an absent Mother as well!, no wonder folk are growing up so stressed.
I think during the last years there is more and more appreciation of turning away from being a pure worker and back into a healthy lifebalance. While my partner studied I was forced to work a lot for our income, and now that he is working I dont see a bad thing in working halftime for some years if we can afford it. But still I am happy that I had that working experience, because the knowlege of being able to stand on your own feet in case of emergency, gives me safety, and that feeling of safety makes the relationship with him even better. Some men maybe also should think about that being able to stand on your own is a good thing, because you dont always get ask if you want to leave your partner, if I never had working experiences and two children with my husband, and suddenly he had a car accident, then you and the kids are f****d up. :(



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25 Jun 2013, 8:59 am

Who_Am_I wrote:
Nambo wrote:
AstroGeek wrote:
Nambo wrote:
ArrantPariah wrote:
The Article wrote:
Plus, video games, cable TV, and the Internet provide entertainment that didn't used to be available. Is this good for society? Probably not, as falling birth rates and increasing single-motherhood demonstrate. But people respond to incentives. If you want more men to marry, it needs to be a more attractive proposition.


So, what would render marriage more attractive to men?


Abolish feminism for a start, Women seemed to have abandoned the positive traits of Womanhood, viewing them as some sort of insult, and taken up the negative aspects of men in there place.
Besides, what man wants to marry another man, even if he does look like a pretty Woman?

Give me a 1950s Doris Day in a Gingham dress.

Um... a man who believes in equality? Rather than wanting marriage to you acquiring a slave, which I take it is what you want? My god, the amount of sexism still present in the world is unbelievable...


Now thats a typical representation of whats gone wrong with the modern Woman and why Men are less attracted to them, always negative, always jumping to the worst possible conclusion, where in my post did I give any indication that I wanted a slave?

You have unfortunately been perverted by the propaganda of those Women haters that taught us that Femininity was bad, that have destroyed marriage, and that wanted Women to become the same wage slaves the Men already were, yeah, getting up and having to go to some boring job for the bulk of your life, and you thought you were missing out on something better than having and raising Children, fools.

I foresee a marriage to a Cat for you.


Work is not boring. Staying stuck in a house with a toddler is.
You can work and still be feminine. They don't even make you chop your breasts off any more! It's great!


Some jobs are boring.

ie working in making a movie or video game is fun.

ie. working administrative things in office is boring.



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25 Jun 2013, 11:01 am

Nambo wrote:
AstroGeek wrote:
Nambo wrote:
ArrantPariah wrote:
The Article wrote:
Plus, video games, cable TV, and the Internet provide entertainment that didn't used to be available. Is this good for society? Probably not, as falling birth rates and increasing single-motherhood demonstrate. But people respond to incentives. If you want more men to marry, it needs to be a more attractive proposition.


So, what would render marriage more attractive to men?


Abolish feminism for a start, Women seemed to have abandoned the positive traits of Womanhood, viewing them as some sort of insult, and taken up the negative aspects of men in there place.
Besides, what man wants to marry another man, even if he does look like a pretty Woman?

Give me a 1950s Doris Day in a Gingham dress.

Um... a man who believes in equality? Rather than wanting marriage to you acquiring a slave, which I take it is what you want? My god, the amount of sexism still present in the world is unbelievable...


Now thats a typical representation of whats gone wrong with the modern Woman and why Men are less attracted to them, always negative, always jumping to the worst possible conclusion, where in my post did I give any indication that I wanted a slave?

You have unfortunately been perverted by the propaganda of those Women haters that taught us that Femininity was bad, that have destroyed marriage, and that wanted Women to become the same wage slaves the Men already were, yeah, getting up and having to go to some boring job for the bulk of your life, and you thought you were missing out on something better than having and raising Children, fools.

I foresee a marriage to a Cat for you.

It's not just women that are feminists. I'm male. A gay male, but still very much male.



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25 Jun 2013, 12:35 pm

The divorce system was set up BY MEN and the "protections for women" were needed and still somewhat... HOWEVER in most states MEN can benefit from divorce or having kids too all depends on who makes more...many women lose half of what they earned on TOP of having kids..
I have no interest in being a doormat nope not going to keep up the home the man AND work. I will always have "skills" and continue to build them.


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25 Jun 2013, 5:01 pm

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Give me a 1950s Doris Day in a Gingham dress.


Doris is in her 90s and would need to iron her birthday suit regularly.
I'm just guessing that you didn't know many women of that age group personally, and are seeing that era of femininity from films and books.
Which is as accurate as assuming that all women of today are living like Paris Hilton and Beyonce.



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Keni wrote:
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Give me a 1950s Doris Day in a Gingham dress.


Doris is in her 90s and would need to iron her birthday suit regularly.
I'm just guessing that you didn't know many women of that age group personally, and are seeing that era of femininity from films and books.
Which is as accurate as assuming that all women of today are living like Paris Hilton and Beyonce.


Well I was born in the 50s, Women then seemed to be proud to be Women, not ashamed, but then I was just a kid and maybe all Women's caring nature comes out when kids are involved?



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25 Jun 2013, 6:40 pm

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Just marry someone from Asia!


Then you're just asking for a messy divorce. Or a quick one that happens as soon as she gets a green card.

FYI -- women in parts of Asia (can't speak for all) are far more demanding than Western women. Why? Selective abortion has skewed the sex ratio in some of these countries to the extent that women can afford to be far more picky, spoiled, and demanding than they would be elsewhere.

There's a video somewhere of a bunch of plain-to-ugly and not well-to-do Chinese girls asserting that they will only marry a hot rich husband with a house and a car. Sadly, they can probably get it, and this is a problem not just in China but in other nations where they have sex-selective abortion: South Korea, Pakistan, India, Thailand, and many others.\

In modern China, it's common for a man to have to wait on his woman hand and foot. At meal time, he has to watch her and if he once slips up and doesn't notice that her drink has to be refilled, etc, she will make an ugly scene and possibly break dishes. The prettier the woman, the more likely she is to be spoiled. Oh, you guys who hate feminism. You are in for a treat if you go to Asia to get married!!



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25 Jun 2013, 8:57 pm

Post subject: 8 Reasons Straight Women Don't Want To Get Married

I think this article will cheer up some gals here:

In a nutshell:

* means I don't really get this one, but if its good for the goose than its good for the gander!

1. You'll lose respect. *
2. You'll have boring sex with the same guy every night.
3. You'll lose friends.*
4. You'll lose space.*
5. You'll lose years on the career ladder/pay scale
6. You'll lose in court.*
7. You'll lose your freedom.
8. He'll buy big toys but get mad at you for buying cool a__ outfits
9. You'll end up cleaning up for two instead of one
10. You'll fall into a rut that's difficult/if not impossible to get out of.
11. You'll take on his debt/liabilities/poor spending choices
12.You'll have to share the tv
13. He'll smother you
14. You'll have to share your food.
15. You'll be doing significantly more than your share of the work (studies prove this again and again)
16. Did I mention the routine of ex with the same guy?
17. He will (statistically) get sick and die on you, leaving you caring for him or alone

Single/Cougar life for women is better than ever now!