The main reason why women don't date us

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25 Jun 2013, 6:15 pm

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As far as many of the date-less men on WP go, I'd say it's because they are selfish, self-centred and self-pitying.

I base my comment on the many posts I have read on this forum.


The selfish and self-centered aspect is not an asperger trait per se and many NT men exhibit this. Going into your own world is not the same as an NT being selfish. Ignorance is what causes people to lump aspies as selfish or self centered. If they are, this is because of something else or it is just their personality. If they really are being a jerk it is because they are a jerk not because they are aspie.

I think there needs to be some understanding with aspies that sometimes they come across as insensitive and selfish but they actually are not many times. Just think about it and do enough research and you should know this.

With the self-pity, it is common because of the constant bullying and social exclusion that many of us have endured. Honestly people that bar someone from a relationship because of this are ignorant or just insensitive jerks. It goes both ways.

Honestly I am tired of people perpetuating the feelings someone has by rejecting them further. We are not perfect beings just like NTs are not. I feel that many NTs show an extreme lack of regard for others feelings. Some aspies have more empathy than an NT.

So I think that the statement you made is extremely ignorant. Just my opinion.



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25 Jun 2013, 6:19 pm

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Because girls generally are attracted to those who don't fear life, and we tend to do just that. We shouldn't.

The reason is simple: the best survivors are those who don't let fear hold them back - only actual danger!


Afraid:

Image


Not afraid:

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Some difference!


Not all women feel this way and I am not interested in the ones that do. I want someone who is sensitive and loves me for who I am and does not care how strong I am. NTs are like this because they are shallow.

And only shallow women go for people like Charlie Sheen. God I hate his face and what he represents. He is a joke.

It is societies use of traditional gender roles that cause many people to think men are not supposed to be afraid. That is actually impossible. Everybody has fear it just seems society frowns upon reality and you need to hide the fact that you are afraid which means you are not genuine. NTs live in a world of fantasy and make-believe. NTs make me laugh. They are completely silly in how they go about things.

I really dislike how society is obsessed with perfection and hollywood. Wake up people it is not real.



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25 Jun 2013, 6:38 pm

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It's simple really. We aren't too manly enough. The next time you see a girl, smack her in the butt and you might find yourself inside her butt lol

p.s. I didn't literally mean to smack her in butt like that but you understand what I am trying to say.


we scare them away. lol



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25 Jun 2013, 7:29 pm

No, I won't. Acting manly feels just wrong to me.



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25 Jun 2013, 11:52 pm

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Marcia wrote:
As far as many of the date-less men on WP go, I'd say it's because they are selfish, self-centered and self-pitying.



Actually those first two are traits of womanizer type guys with huge egos. :roll:


exactly.



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26 Jun 2013, 3:11 am

I am typically male (ie. interests wise, clothing...etc) but not typically manly :-/ if that makes sense.



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26 Jun 2013, 5:40 am

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azaam wrote:
It's simple really. We aren't too manly enough. The next time you see a girl, smack her in the butt and you might find yourself inside her butt lol

p.s. I didn't literally mean to smack her in butt like that but you understand what I am trying to say.


So you've decided to become a lion.


yeaa. I am the one on the left lol.


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26 Jun 2013, 5:44 am

Women want a mixture of a strong and sensitive guy. They don't want a wuss. I once met a women through a friend who asked me about my scars. I told her it's from fighting and she said she thinks it looks sexy. Point proven right there.


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26 Jun 2013, 8:19 am

^^ and women (yes, I am stereotyping women here) in general seem to be more concerned and paranoid of guys to come across anywhere close to effeminate; "it looks gay on him" (a cloth, haircut, necklace...wtv) is a comment said way more often by women than men.

A girl was asking me about my guy buddy who always come with me to the bar, she seems to like him but she was "but he wears tight shirts and have a tail" then she was like "do you think he's gay?" - the guy I know well and he's very heterosexual and typically manly, he's a pro swimmer, amateur footballer and he's quite dark and has deep voice, but he was thought to be gay by her simply because of the hair tail and the sporty tight shirts (he's well fit) he wears, one atypical thing abolishes all other traits. This is not the first instance of gay suspecting I encounter and hear due to silly thing like haircut or some clothing.

A lot of little things here and there show clearly that women/girls do put pressure on men/guys to act more manly in every day life, like when some guy gets scared of some spider or rat the typical female response 'come on, you're the guy, kill it!' while she's even more scared than him.

Also, while the tomboy girl is often suppressed by family to act more girly, the 'girly' boy is WAY WAY much more suppressed, often by violence, to stop his girly behavior at once and acts typically as a boy.
The tomboyish behavior of a little girl is many times seen as a phase by parents - while any girly behavior coming from a boy is treated as an alarm that the boy might grow to an effeminate or gay, and needs to be treated at once.

I remember few times when I was child my mother literally smacked me (yea, it's not the US here - part of cultural child bearing) because I acted something girly, I don't recall what they were exactly but I recall they were silly gender thing (ie imitating a girly behavior).

Women complain that society and men put pressure on them to act more womanly, but the other way around isn't less severe really. I personally find the women-on-men pressure (to act more manly) on this is greater than men-on-men (to act more manly still) and women-on-women (to act more womanly).

What all that has to do with the thread? It's all about the thread, this women-on-men pressure for manly behavior is due to the women's common sexual preference for manly men, most women sexually prefer manly men hence why they subconsciously put that pressure on all the men around them, including their own children.



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26 Jun 2013, 8:59 am

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www.laddertheory.com

;) ;) ;)



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26 Jun 2013, 9:13 am

^ off topic



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26 Jun 2013, 1:05 pm

Dantac wrote:
Behold. The greatest thing written in the 20th century.

www.laddertheory.com

;) ;) ;)

Well, that was a lovely read! /sarcasm

Either that guy is batshit insane
Or
I don't want to live on this planet anymore...



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26 Jun 2013, 1:44 pm

That´s because Aspie men are often very quit and withdrawn. Also, they don´t usually spend a lot of time on their looks, which is not very attractive.



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26 Jun 2013, 1:46 pm

Cafeaulait wrote:
That´s because Aspie men are often very quit and withdrawn. Also, they don´t usually spend a lot of time on their looks, which is not very attractive.

Low muscle tone, skinny-fat, ect...

Hence why I go out all the time these days, yet never enjoy it, because it least it slightly trains me physically the way it trains others.



26 Jun 2013, 1:52 pm

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That´s because Aspie men are often very quit and withdrawn. Also, they don´t usually spend a lot of time on their looks, which is not very attractive.


That's a stereotype? I spend a lot of time on my appearance but I am what you call narcissistic though.



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26 Jun 2013, 2:32 pm

The image that girls here have in their minds about aspie guys = the image that NT girls have in their minds about geek guys.

Same same.