Do women make lots of effort to attract men?

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O Really?

You never attended a gym I guess.

Getting the ideal male body is harder than getting the ideal female body.

I'm more like a man. I comb my hair, just do my upper eyelids (2 mins?) and don't care. It's more habit than ''attracting males'' as I'm getting approached often enough which in fact gives me stress.

I find it kind of interesting, perhaps that is because it doesn't really apply to me, that men think it's all about attracting them. Like Arab men, in night gown and with beard. The thought I wouldn't dress in a burqa but carelessly put on a jeans (so no ''thought'' or ''intention'' to it) to attract THEM! It's not our/my sole purpose to get male attraction.

Making yourself look okay is also a statement and a way to behave socially acceptable (for many).

How is this? Looking at this old school, the ideal measurements for a woman were 34-24-36. Even a dedicated gym rat isn't going to achieve that without some surgical help or a helpful genetic makeup.

or be a size 0, get hair extensions, breast augmentation and let's not forget those ridiculous high heel shoes.

That's the stupid Fashion industry' ideal body for women, not what MEN find ideal. Men don't pull out rulers to measure women's waists and all, they don't even understand what 34-24 bla bla means

Any non-overweight to normally curvy body would be enough to woo men, and it's pretty achievable in gym with lot of cardio, little weight lifting and certain diet, only flat chest can be a problem.

But from what I always observe, what WOMEN find ideal (from their drooling reactions) in male body is pretty the same what the fashion/media promotes as ideal male body It's The swimmer body: well-toned, muscly but not so over-muscly, tall, six-packs.
Getting such body would require lot of heavy lifting, a lot of cardio, a lot of abs exercises (the hardest), and rigorous fat control diet. And nothing can fix height.

So you tell me now, who has it harder?

What makes you believe women are more selective then men? You seem to be presenting that women only "drool" over one type of guy, while men are happy with the majority of women out there. In both cases, I highly doubt personality doesn't play a pretty big factor.

The bottom line is that looks pay. That's why everyone is trying to look the best they can and why wouldn't you in today's world? Whether its through job opportunities, dating, even just making a first impression with someone the majority of people judge based on looks first, then social skills.

Everyone would like to look their best. My point was there are more reasons to do so other than attracting a mate.

lol but women *are* more selective than men; in everything.

I am not saying that all people of a gender drool over one type, I am saying that certain ideal body type(s) make a lot of the opposite gender drool (notice the difference); in case of males it is harder for them to acheive this level.

A lot of women do not (of course, a lot do also). They think they are attractive just by virtue of being women and that it's on the guy to do everything.

Not that I'd ever meet someone off this site, but here are some examples of women, a good portion of whom have probably failed at normal dating who still have this attitude. These are LTR or "boyfriend" ads by demanding women with obviously very traditional ideas about gender roles and willing to do very little. Notice how a lot of these women do not even try to sell themselves:

http://washingtondc.craigslist.org/w4m/

Last edited by Tyri0n on 04 Jul 2013, 6:43 pm, edited 1 time in total.

Yeah I agree with you, attracting a mate is part of it but it also feels better when you feel better about how you look, there's no doubt about that.

http://beirut.craigslist.org/w4m/3818652841.html

lol

Weird seriousness, I thought she was spam but her height request doesn't make sense for spam.

Of course the argument.
Evolution and Society insists that women pretend to be uninterested in sex.
Women instinctively act uninterested in sex at certain points in a courtship as a way to weed out undesirables.
Women choose first contact and of course wish to be successful.
Women often like a bit of mystery and are not likely to do "full disclosure" to strangers.
Women often operate by enticement rather than just driving in with a bulldozer.
Women are generally weaker than men and can appreciate the protection of a man.
For protection a man doesn't need a man because he is a man. (work with me on this please)
Men are generally considered the provider esp. while women are care taking the next generation. If this didn't happen we wouldn't be here to discuss this.
 Meaning men got muddy and bloody and broken-up and covered in mammoth poop and generally the longer they lived the uglier they got. Sexual attractiveness of a woman can easily keep a man interested and providing for her comfort and safety for years, easily long enough to have several units of the next generation.

Does this answer your question?
If not, then ask me anything.

No, that's serious -- and pathetic. So we keep hearing about pathetic American MRA males who failed the dating scene and now have an Asian fetish.

And here we have the female counterpart.

Women make ALOT of effort, not just to attract men but to fit in socially.. hello all we have to do is shave and maybe moisteurize (wear perfume and spray ect)

Every morning women have to wake up wash their face, then begin to put on a layer of foundation ontop of that lipstick and mascara then straighten there hair (which is condsiderably longer than ours usually) Keep there nails polished upto date, maybe some eyeliner... shave their legs armpits ect..

Women are by definition expected to put the effort in, yes women put a hell of a lot into attracting men, but they are already expected to put a damn lot in by society..

In terms of getting ready before you walk out the door, in general women do put in more effort than men. But is that to appear more attractive to the opposite sex? Not necessarily. I think primarily it is to appear more attractive, full stop. There are many reasons to want to appear more attractive - not just Love and Dating reasons.

BUT...yes, I think women still put more effort into appearing attractive to men than vice versa.