Why Some of Us Here Fail at Love and Dating

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09 Jul 2013, 9:46 pm

1000Knives wrote:
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women just don't want to date some of us aspie men.
trying being a more moderate,very weird,over the top confidence autism
man,like myself. yes, the women will really love you,not.
but hey,it's fun. I enjoy life,and like myself,which probaly
the reason I don't get dates.lol
Theres always craigs list for casual encounters!


Then you get AIDS. Or you need drugs to split with them. And then you get AIDS. Or herpes.
....theres always Tube galore!


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09 Jul 2013, 10:23 pm

I think you are all thinking of the short-term and thinking you can't develop the attributes to sustain a Relationship and quite honestly its BS.
You might all need to get out of your comfort zones and start discovering other things rather than your own fixed interest. I have basically sacrificed having an over-obsessive interest in one particular field, so i could make friends both Male & Female and if you talk about nothing but your obsessions too much, of course no woman's going to be interested. I have had a little Sexual and Relationship encounters in my time and I'm confident if i open my mind, I will make someone happy one-day. Think about the Long-Term and what you can achieve.



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10 Jul 2013, 12:13 am

NT women cant stand aspie men! *dodges flying debris thrown by angry NT women*


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10 Jul 2013, 12:19 am

Ok, so ill ask you guys this. Can you find a single reason to this dilemma that does not involve an aspergers diagnosis. I do want to hear results and then let you know what i think based on them



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10 Jul 2013, 12:27 am

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I would be surprised to see aspies being successful at FWB but I would be open to being proven wrong.

Why do you say that?

I'm thinking you mean mostly aspie males, not females? I've been fairly successful with a FWB relationship, except for the lack of affection, so it fails in the opposite way to what you might think. But I'm female.



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10 Jul 2013, 12:32 am

yellowtamarin wrote:
thewhitrbbit wrote:
I would be surprised to see aspies being successful at FWB but I would be open to being proven wrong.

Why do you say that?

I'm thinking you mean mostly aspie males, not females? I've been fairly successful with a FWB relationship, except for the lack of affection, so it fails in the opposite way to what you might think. But I'm female.

I'm a male and have been in what i considered a successful fwb. I still don't see why everyone's limiting factor is always summarized by aspergers. I think spongy was very right in the thread he told boo the biggest issue he has is not being desperate enough, but id also add needy enough. Many here think they are desperate and needy enough yet their actions are those of someone who doesn't care



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10 Jul 2013, 1:27 am

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Ok, so ill ask you guys this. Can you find a single reason to this dilemma that does not involve an aspergers diagnosis. I do want to hear results and then let you know what i think based on them


The shortcomings that have nothing with AS:

- Lack of experience: Others of my age range have already at least 7 years of relationship experience.
- Lack of car: I drive though, sometimes the date's car or family member's car or rent, but not *owning* a car is certainly a huge turn off to a lot of women.
- My height: 5'3, 163 cm, extremely shorter than what 90% of women fantasize about, and yes it's a huge limiting factor.
- Lack of religion: A lot can't tolerate atheists.
- Not the pursuer male type: yes, I don't pursue, I try to build a connection with a girl but I don't pursue at all. I've noticed that most women LOVE to be pursued (staring at WP women: You monkeys!! ! ;p).
- Not feeling adult enough: Internal insecurity, at this age I still don't feel much adult.
- Extremely Introvert: Yet trying to be more extrovert but not working so well, ehh, some might speculate this is AS thing, whatever, I don't believe much in AS altogether btw lol.
- Not having mainstream interests.
- Not a smooth talker or conversationalist: I said it in a conversation related thread once, in real-life public encounters (not dates) I do not know how to "create" a long conversation that helps to create some bond, even during the dates I am usually the listener, my side of conversation often created by reaction to what she's saying.


I am dying alone, yeah. You were right, MXH.



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10 Jul 2013, 8:52 am

MXH wrote:
Ok, so ill ask you guys this. Can you find a single reason to this dilemma that does not involve an aspergers diagnosis. I do want to hear results and then let you know what i think based on them


because most of us aren't studs, so we have to smooth talk the ladies,which of course
alot us aspie/autism guys fail at.



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10 Jul 2013, 10:35 am

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
MXH wrote:
Ok, so ill ask you guys this. Can you find a single reason to this dilemma that does not involve an aspergers diagnosis. I do want to hear results and then let you know what i think based on them


The shortcomings that have nothing with AS:

- Lack of experience: Others of my age range have already at least 7 years of relationship experience.
- Lack of car: I drive though, sometimes the date's car or family member's car or rent, but not *owning* a car is certainly a huge turn off to a lot of women.
- My height: 5'3, 163 cm, extremely shorter than what 90% of women fantasize about, and yes it's a huge limiting factor.
- Lack of religion: A lot can't tolerate atheists.
- Not the pursuer male type: yes, I don't pursue, I try to build a connection with a girl but I don't pursue at all. I've noticed that most women LOVE to be pursued (staring at WP women: You monkeys!! ! ;p).
- Not feeling adult enough: Internal insecurity, at this age I still don't feel much adult.
- Extremely Introvert: Yet trying to be more extrovert but not working so well, ehh, some might speculate this is AS thing, whatever, I don't believe much in AS altogether btw lol.
- Not having mainstream interests.
- Not a smooth talker or conversationalist: I said it in a conversation related thread once, in real-life public encounters (not dates) I do not know how to "create" a long conversation that helps to create some bond, even during the dates I am usually the listener, my side of conversation often created by reaction to what she's saying.


experience: everyone starts out from zero at some point. getting advice from women or asking whoever you're dating to help teach you about what they like might be a good strategy.

car/height: I think these are shallow reasons to like/dislike someone for. besides, not all women care about height.

religion: don't forget there are also some who can't tolerate those who are religious :P

pursuer: putting romantic stereotypes aside, women may interpret pursuit behaviors as interest, and lack of pursuit as lack of interest. But this word is vague so I'm not sure exactly what you mean by pursuit. There are also some women who may be turned off when the guy is too intensely pursuing, so not always a good thing.

conversation: listening is a great skill. Being able to 'interview' and learn more about other people will make them feel connected to you, then the only thing that remains is for you to be comfortable teaching others about yourself.



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11 Jul 2013, 2:44 am

monetgarden wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
MXH wrote:
Ok, so ill ask you guys this. Can you find a single reason to this dilemma that does not involve an aspergers diagnosis. I do want to hear results and then let you know what i think based on them


The shortcomings that have nothing with AS:

- Lack of experience: Others of my age range have already at least 7 years of relationship experience.
- Lack of car: I drive though, sometimes the date's car or family member's car or rent, but not *owning* a car is certainly a huge turn off to a lot of women.
- My height: 5'3, 163 cm, extremely shorter than what 90% of women fantasize about, and yes it's a huge limiting factor.
- Lack of religion: A lot can't tolerate atheists.
- Not the pursuer male type: yes, I don't pursue, I try to build a connection with a girl but I don't pursue at all. I've noticed that most women LOVE to be pursued (staring at WP women: You monkeys!! ! ;p).
- Not feeling adult enough: Internal insecurity, at this age I still don't feel much adult.
- Extremely Introvert: Yet trying to be more extrovert but not working so well, ehh, some might speculate this is AS thing, whatever, I don't believe much in AS altogether btw lol.
- Not having mainstream interests.
- Not a smooth talker or conversationalist: I said it in a conversation related thread once, in real-life public encounters (not dates) I do not know how to "create" a long conversation that helps to create some bond, even during the dates I am usually the listener, my side of conversation often created by reaction to what she's saying.


experience: everyone starts out from zero at some point. getting advice from women or asking whoever you're dating to help teach you about what they like might be a good strategy.

car/height: I think these are shallow reasons to like/dislike someone for. besides, not all women care about height.

religion: don't forget there are also some who can't tolerate those who are religious :P

pursuer: putting romantic stereotypes aside, women may interpret pursuit behaviors as interest, and lack of pursuit as lack of interest. But this word is vague so I'm not sure exactly what you mean by pursuit. There are also some women who may be turned off when the guy is too intensely pursuing, so not always a good thing.

conversation: listening is a great skill. Being able to 'interview' and learn more about other people will make them feel connected to you, then the only thing that remains is for you to be comfortable teaching others about yourself.


Thanks, but I think you're being too ideal and not down to earth.

MXH, what's your assessment?



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11 Jul 2013, 2:54 am

I've found that being good at wordplay and conversational irony is what keeps people interested. This applies to the opposite gender as well. Wit is sexy.

I suggest studying literary mechanics, especially various forms of wordplay, and watching lots of comedy (stand-up and sitcoms) as ways to better one's social skills.



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11 Jul 2013, 2:56 am

Boo what are your best 9 attractive attributes to women? Serious please. :chin:


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11 Jul 2013, 3:16 am

1000Knives wrote:
AspieOtaku wrote:
billiscool wrote:
women just don't want to date some of us aspie men.
trying being a more moderate,very weird,over the top confidence autism
man,like myself. yes, the women will really love you,not.
but hey,it's fun. I enjoy life,and like myself,which probaly
the reason I don't get dates.lol
Theres always craigs list for casual encounters!


Then you get AIDS. Or you need drugs to split with them. And then you get AIDS. Or herpes.


So am I the only person on the planet who knows about condoms, or what?
They aren't a complete failsafe. but they do reduce the risk.
Or you could just ask to see the results of an STD test, and offer to do the same.


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11 Jul 2013, 5:56 am

Who_Am_I wrote:
1000Knives wrote:
AspieOtaku wrote:
billiscool wrote:
women just don't want to date some of us aspie men.
trying being a more moderate,very weird,over the top confidence autism
man,like myself. yes, the women will really love you,not.
but hey,it's fun. I enjoy life,and like myself,which probaly
the reason I don't get dates.lol
Theres always craigs list for casual encounters!


Then you get AIDS. Or you need drugs to split with them. And then you get AIDS. Or herpes.


So am I the only person on the planet who knows about condoms, or what?
They aren't a complete failsafe. but they do reduce the risk.
Or you could just ask to see the results of an STD test, and offer to do the same.


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11 Jul 2013, 6:05 am

MR_BOGAN wrote:
Boo what are your best 9 attractive attributes to women? Serious please. :chin:



I can list them but this changes nothing.



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11 Jul 2013, 8:52 am

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halo_effect

This is what f***s us ass pies so hard. The "otherness" of being an Aspie pretty much negatively colours any good qualities you might have.