I'm a 28 year virgin and I feel like life is passing me by.

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11 Oct 2013, 8:24 am

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I think whether you have had sex or not is not what you should focus on. Sex in my opinion is simple physical act like shaking hands with someone or hugging someone, society makes it into an important life goal but it shouldn't be. Many people feel disappointed after their first sex because they imagined it would be amazing and it ended up being awkward and overwhelming in terms of the emotional and sensory experience..

I think people should focus on trying to make friends with people who they get on well with and who make them happy, then through friends, hopefully find a girlfriend/boyfriend and slowly develop a physical relationship with them over a period of time, instead of having a single goal of having sex. Sometimes kissing and touching a boyfriend or girlfriend who really understands you can be more satisfying than having sex. Especially if the sex is with someone you are paying to be there.


With this I agree. The physical need of sex usually follows by itself when in love.



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11 Oct 2013, 8:32 am

Cafeaulait wrote:
oddness wrote:
I think whether you have had sex or not is not what you should focus on. Sex in my opinion is simple physical act like shaking hands with someone or hugging someone, society makes it into an important life goal but it shouldn't be. Many people feel disappointed after their first sex because they imagined it would be amazing and it ended up being awkward and overwhelming in terms of the emotional and sensory experience..

I think people should focus on trying to make friends with people who they get on well with and who make them happy, then through friends, hopefully find a girlfriend/boyfriend and slowly develop a physical relationship with them over a period of time, instead of having a single goal of having sex. Sometimes kissing and touching a boyfriend or girlfriend who really understands you can be more satisfying than having sex. Especially if the sex is with someone you are paying to be there.


With this I agree. The physical need of sex usually follows by itself when in love.


Oddness, and Cafeaulait, just for your information, you are both describing the female attitude toward sex; men see it very differently.



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11 Oct 2013, 9:14 am

For most men, I'd say they have the order the other way round.

Sex, an expression of love (typical female) against love, an expression of sex (typical male)



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11 Oct 2013, 1:00 pm

These answers are great- and I really appreciate them, but I guess there's some other information I didn.t mention. Due to myy low vision and physical disability, I don.t drive. I also only have a few friends, and they aren.t into the bar and clubbing scene.



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11 Oct 2013, 1:02 pm

octobertiger wrote:
For most men, I'd say they have the order the other way round.

Sex, an expression of love (typical female) against love, an expression of sex (typical male)


I agree, and that is what I was trying to convey. For the man, sex does not have to be connected with love to be enjoyable, though men can be romantics too.



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11 Oct 2013, 1:19 pm

I think that is probably one of, if not, the biggest problems in settled relationships - especially when either partner are convinced that their way is the right way. Biology and conditioning can reinforce both positions. Entrenched positions create bitterness.

Of course there are exceptions to this, and people of both sexes can change their position over time, and hormones change, too.

All the understanding in the world won't matter, if one or both parties aren't prepared to compromise, the relationship can be posioned beyond repair - love or no love. Very depressing.

And this is the thing that irks me about the Love and Dating section. It's all about short-term fixes - virginity, meeting the girl, first date...great. Very important to some. But it's the tip of the iceberg - the real deal for most is relationships, and many men really don't get much help, many role models or ideas as to how they work. Of course, that is partly their own fault, and partly society assuming that they 'just know'. Well, they do not, I did not, and experience is sometimes a very cruel teacher when it comes to living with someone and sharing a life with them - especially if you don't know who you are yourself.



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11 Oct 2013, 1:24 pm

it takes two to tango. both parties have to work together or else the relationship is toast.



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11 Oct 2013, 1:26 pm

Not necessarily. One party often ends up compromising, and the relationship carries on. Not an ideal situation, but most partners really don't choose each other on communication skills and compromising skills, do they.



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11 Oct 2013, 1:29 pm

octobertiger wrote:
Not necessarily. One party often ends up compromising, and the relationship carries on. Not an ideal situation, but most partners really don't choose each other on communication skills and compromising skills, do they.

such a relationship cannot last as a healthy relationship. an unhealthy relationship is worse than no relationship at all. the divorce statistics bear me out.



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11 Oct 2013, 1:35 pm

But a lot of them do last. Children, mortgages, becoming used to each other...

They aren't healthy relationships, as you say.

I agree with what you saying. In my experience, most married couples, after a time, do not like each other, they tolerate each other, sometimes grudgingly. People shrug their shoulders and get on with it. I couldn't do that, and neither could you, it seems.



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11 Oct 2013, 1:38 pm

the lucky and the unlucky might as well live in different universes.



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11 Oct 2013, 1:50 pm

Yeah.

Sometimes I think we all live in different universes.



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11 Oct 2013, 1:57 pm

:idea: in a sense, we do. :idea: