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17 Oct 2013, 12:03 pm

what octobertiger is saying above is BS ^^^^^^^^^^

Theres nothing more to this video and what I say in general than human psychology. You can learn how it works and how to use it to your advantage or you can be a scrub and wonder why you never get results or very minimal results.



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17 Oct 2013, 12:03 pm

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I'm curious. What is your problem with feminists (who are, after all, simply men and women who believe that women are not inferior to men)?


ok, I worded that wrongly. "radical feminists" is what I really meant.


What do you mean by "radical feminist"?



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17 Oct 2013, 12:07 pm

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What do you mean by "radical feminist"?


Radical feminist is a woman who wants to control her man. Wants MORE advantages than men. Wants to dominate men. Wants payback for what men have done to women in the past with not allowing women to have equal rights in the past. Radical feminists love the heel sucker nice guysTM that frequent this love & dating forum.



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17 Oct 2013, 12:07 pm

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The video is about girls and boys. And game. Yet the thread title is about women and guys. Big difference.

Shouldn't this be on a PUA website?

We are on totally different levels, yeah.


This video is definately not about girls and boys. Unless you consider every woman that is under the age of 30 a little girl and every guy who is successfully meeting women and getting into relationships and getting laid when he is younger a boy.

You obviously didn't watch the video long enough to hear what he had to say about Pick up artist propaganda not working at all..

Its ok, I understand you and Geeko have an agenda because you don't agree with what I say or my philosophy on dating and attraction.

stay the f**k out of my threads if you don't have anything constructive to say and want to just give this video a false identity so that people won't watch it.


OK I'll watch it in greater depth later on. Sorry, it appears to be another revisionist derivative - so far - but I'll stand corrected if it wasn't.

Girls and boys is not an age-thing, it's a state of mind. Girls and boys play games. You'll know if you are dating a girl or a woman, a boy or a man. An agenda is yet another game.

I don't want to give the video a false identity. It will speak for itself.

As always, I will comment on what you post. Whatever is true will stand for itself. Not everyone who disagrees with a point you make has to have an agenda. And you are not your opinion, you are you.



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17 Oct 2013, 12:08 pm

lost561 wrote:
what octobertiger is saying above is BS ^^^^^^^^^^

Theres nothing more to this video and what I say in general than human psychology. You can learn how it works and how to use it to your advantage or you can be a scrub and wonder why you never get results or very minimal results.

Most of those videos have no factual basis on it, I could watch it and degrade my brain, to accurately disprove it or I could spend my time on something better to do. These kinds of videos are purely by a person's interpretation, experience and their ideas of relationships. It's like the how to get relationship books, relationships are too individualistic to rely on guides like, that. It is a very unreliable guide.



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17 Oct 2013, 12:09 pm

lost561 wrote:
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What do you mean by "radical feminist"?


Radical feminist is a woman who wants to control her man. Wants MORE advantages than men. Wants to dominate men. Wants payback for what men have done to women in the past with not allowing women to have equal rights in the past. Radical feminists love the heel sucker nice guysTM that frequent this love & dating forum.

No, that's a matriarchist not a feminist.



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17 Oct 2013, 12:11 pm

lost561 wrote:
what octobertiger is saying above is BS ^^^^^^^^^^

Theres nothing more to this video and what I say in general than human psychology. You can learn how it works and how to use it to your advantage or you can be a scrub and wonder why you never get results or very minimal results.


I'm a tiger and I live in a bathtub.

You live in a lift, and you are now pressing all your own buttons. Not me.

Let's not get into psychology, eh. It won't be a useful debate to you. Just leave the vid up and let it speak for itself.



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17 Oct 2013, 12:15 pm

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The con run lasts until you wake up next to someone and realise that you don't want to be there, and you've been chasing something that you never really wanted in the first place. Or they realise the same thing and clear off.


That pretty much sums up my marriage (no joke). But the only one I was conning, was myself. That's probably another big reason relationships fail, or never get started in the first place. Too many people, men and women alike, always chasing after what they think they want.

I think these players, or whatever you call them, are too busy just getting notches on their bedposts, that they don't recognize a potential relationship when its right in front of them.



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17 Oct 2013, 12:15 pm

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Most of those videos have no factual basis on it, I could watch it and degrade my brain, to accurately disprove it or I could spend my time on something better to do. These kinds of videos are purely by a person's interpretation, experience and their ideas of relationships. It's like the how to get relationship books, relationships are too individualistic to rely on guides like, that. It is a very unreliable guide.


Don't watch the video then. If you're happy with where your game is and don't need the advice than don't watch it.

I don't subscribe to Pick up artist BS, but what Player Supreme talks about in ALL of his videos is the truth.

You say that its very unreliable.. how do you know this?



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17 Oct 2013, 12:17 pm

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No, that's a matriarchist not a feminist.


That was my definition of a radical feminist, not a feminist. You should read first before you start to call people out.



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17 Oct 2013, 12:21 pm

lost561 wrote:
[quote="Grimdalus]Most of those videos have no factual basis on it, I could watch it and degrade my brain, to accurately disprove it or I could spend my time on something better to do. These kinds of videos are purely by a person's interpretation, experience and their ideas of relationships. It's like the how to get relationship books, relationships are too individualistic to rely on guides like, that. It is a very unreliable guide.


Don't watch the video then. If you're happy with where your game is and don't need the advice than don't watch it.

I don't subscribe to Pick up artist BS, but what Player Supreme talks about in ALL of his videos is the truth.

You say that its very unreliable.. how do you know this?[/quote]
It's a cynical cash in. He is using his own interpretation, experience and his ideas of relationships, it is most likely a bunch of pseudo-science at best. I do not see the point in why you need people to tell you what to do in a relationship, it's trail and error, not read this guide for success. Most people who I know try this kind of "guide for relationships" are doomed to failure, it does not work. He's just using gullible people for revenue from youtube ad revenue scheme. My attitude towards dating is very different then yours.



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17 Oct 2013, 12:21 pm

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Let's not get into psychology, eh. It won't be a useful debate to you. Just leave the vid up and let it speak for itself.


What do you mean it won't be a useful debate to me? What do you want to debate about human psychology?



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17 Oct 2013, 12:22 pm

Hey lost, could you please tell me what category I fall into? I'm not even being sarcastic here - I don't actually know. Thanks.



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17 Oct 2013, 12:23 pm

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It's a cynical cash in. He is using his own interpretation, experience and his ideas of relationships, it is most likely a bunch of pseudo-science at best. I do not see the point in why you need people to tell you what to do in a relationship, it's trail and error, not read this guide for success. Most people who I know try this kind of "guide for relationships" are doomed to failure, it does not work. He's just using gullible people for revenue from youtube ad revenue scheme. My attitude towards dating is very different then yours.


Did you watch the video?

The video wasn't even about dating.

It was about attraction. What women are attracted to and what women prefer.



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17 Oct 2013, 12:23 pm

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No, that's a matriarchist not a feminist.


That was my definition of a radical feminist, not a feminist. You should read first before you start to call people out.

>It's not a feminist
>Can't be a radical feminist
>It's a matriarchist
There is no such thing as radical feminism. Stop it. Feminism is a must for humans to be equal.



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17 Oct 2013, 12:23 pm

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octobertiger wrote:
The con run lasts until you wake up next to someone and realise that you don't want to be there, and you've been chasing something that you never really wanted in the first place. Or they realise the same thing and clear off.


That pretty much sums up my marriage (no joke). But the only one I was conning, was myself. That's probably another big reason relationships fail, or never get started in the first place. Too many people, men and women alike, always chasing after what they think they want.

I think these players, or whatever you call them, are too busy just getting notches on their bedposts, that they don't recognize a potential relationship when its right in front of them.


The best con is when you are conning yourself. To admit it, well, that takes guts.

People have a fantasy idea of these 'players' or 'pua', just like they have of porn stars, sportsmen, politicians. movie stars. Their 'results' are distorted, and quality overrides quantity. It has to - it's a money making industry, a freak show at its worst.

The hardest question always is - "What do I really want?", not "What do I want to pretend?"