How do you "Get Confidence?"

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27 Dec 2013, 3:24 am

The main thing that eats at me is just how freaking HARD it is just to get a girl to notice you and enter into a relationship, much less DATE them regularly.

Also, some other people make it look so easy...

TBH, I have a hard time imagining that other people in past eras of history have found it this difficult to find girls to have relationships with.

Sometimes my life sort of feels like "I am surrounded by plenty, but I can't have any of it."...

Because I lack the requisite social skills to do so.

Its just frustrating, and I can never get any answers. I don't understand why THIS has to be so hard for me.



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27 Dec 2013, 3:41 am

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^Self love & appreciation is definitely a key component to being self confident.

Of all the books I've read on various self help topics, I'd say the single best piece of advice I gleaned from one of them was to treat yourself as good or better as you do others you love. Very simple, but very profound. I contemplated this for quite some time and have since implemented it. Sometimes if I'm feeling a bit low, I think back to this advice and these thoughts and start having much better thoughts about myself. I think about how much I love my closest and best friends, my God children etc & remind myself of my capacity to love - and that I am equally deserving of that very same love that I am so easily willing to show others. Then I think some pretty wonderful and amazing thoughts about myself and instantly feel better for it, because thoughts dictate emotions & emotions dictate actions.. so, once I'm thinking better, I feel better, and once I feel better, my actions are better - and come across as a whole lot more confident to those around me.. because they are.


none of that matters,confidence is a subjective matter.it's simple,if a woman likes
a guy,in her view he's ''confidence''.People give you confidence.Women decide
which men have ''confidence''.


No. I disagree. Completely.

Confidence is internal. It's expressed on the outside via voice, facial expressions, posture & body language, choice of words etc - but it is you who either possesses confidence internally, or you don't. A woman cannot look at a man and decide she's attracted to him and then somehow project confident thoughts and feelings into his head, granting him confidence because she so chose to bestow it upon him. It does not work that way. At all.


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27 Dec 2013, 3:48 am

Confidence is the belief that you have value. That you are a valuable human being, and you like and trust yourself.

If you like yourself, then there's very little other people can do to hurt you. When you like yourself, you know that when people try to hurt you, it's about them and not you, and it doesn't affect you (you might even feel sorry for the people who try to hurt you). When you are confident and like yourself, you accept that you're not perfect, and you accept the silly mistakes that you make. You own them and learn from them, but you don't let them bring you down and you don't dwell on them. You trust yourself to try new things and to grow and learn.


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27 Dec 2013, 4:10 am

Yeah, I also don't know what exactly makes a woman attracted to a certain man?

Common interests, obviously.... A sense of fun, in the beginning, and then maybe that later becomes deeper passions that two people share.

Another problem of mine is that I don't have an obvious "personality type," so I don't clearly line up with certain types of girls.... (for example, a country guy naturally gravitating to towards a country chick)...

I'm kind of an odd duck who is not a clear match for anyone.



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27 Dec 2013, 4:14 am

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Keep saying "me so great" like 100 times before you go to sleep every night. Maybe you'll start to actually believe it, and then so will chicks. :idea:


That would be delusion not confidence if you are not so great.


Listen boys, forget what everyone tells you to fake confidence or to just "have confidence", it doesn't work like that at all.

From another thread since this subject is repeated 1000 times:


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Confidence comes from self esteem (the feeling of self worth) and the latter comes competence.

Confidence is overrated and it's not what's really all about.

Confidence with nothing going for him = delusional, grandeur on empty basis.

For me, confidence is the consequence feeling a human gets after series of accomplishments in a particular field, competence is the key to get the confidence, the same how things work for self-esteem in my opinion.

ie. if you study hard and you're competent enough at math, you get A+, after some A's you get very confident when the teacher asks you to solve a math on the board, why else do you think the most math-nerdies are the first to rise their hands to solve a math problem on the board? It's not a coincidence, but because they're very confidence that they can solve it because they did it successfully many times before. While the less smart sporty student would very hesitant to solve it, despite his confidence in basketball. If the sport student shouts "I CAN SOLVE IT, TEACHER" - and end up solving sh** at the board, everyone would laugh at him, he wouldn't look confident in front of others anymore but as a self-delusional and stupid.


When it come to dating, the confidence is also based on past successes too, but competence is the key to get those successes: social skills, career, looks ...etc.




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Why it's irrelevant? It is not.

I see the same logic can be applied on both:

If you are competent at math ==> you get As ==> you get confident about math.

If you are competent at being interesting to girls ==> you get dates ==> you get confident about dating.

same logic can be applied to relationships, jobs and...everything.




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"You must have Confidence" is...well....BS.

Skill is the key.

You get the confidence after you master the skill in order to achieve success in specific field.

When girls say they want a "a guy with confidence" - they mean in English (or Arabic or French) "I want a guy with SOCIAL confidence" or in some instances " "I want a guy with enough SOCIAL skills that allow him to talk to ME with confidence".
A geek for example typically lacks the social skills hence not confident in social events but that same geek might be very confident when it comes to programming or solving math in class while the social butterfly soccer player might s**ts bricks just by the thought of it, then who's more confident? The geek or the soccer player? It depends in what.


So please, let's stop with this "have confidence" BS already, "Be competent" is a more tangible advice.



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27 Dec 2013, 4:19 am

One could also say that confidence is going out and not trying to be attractive.

Although I can't talk, when I went for my walk today I totally noticed my really bad tan lines (my arms and face are light brown, the rest of me is white :( )


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27 Dec 2013, 4:37 am

Kezzstar wrote:
One could also say that confidence is going out and not trying to be attractive.

Although I can't talk, when I went for my walk today I totally noticed my really bad tan lines (my arms and face are light brown, the rest of me is white :( )


Go to a nude beach next summer.

And share us the pictures.

No solarium, it's nasty.



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27 Dec 2013, 4:57 am

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The first step toward gaining confidence is learning not to fear failure. Start there.

Agree with that.

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Confidence is the belief that you have value. That you are a valuable human being, and you like and trust yourself.

If you like yourself, then there's very little other people can do to hurt you. When you like yourself, you know that when people try to hurt you, it's about them and not you, and it doesn't affect you (you might even feel sorry for the people who try to hurt you). When you are confident and like yourself, you accept that you're not perfect, and you accept the silly mistakes that you make. You own them and learn from them, but you don't let them bring you down and you don't dwell on them. You trust yourself to try new things and to grow and learn.

Good stuff. However, when someone is dishing out hurtful comments or making you feel bad at that moment. It does feel like you get knocked off your horse. I suppose one should expect that when you enter the "real world". Other's would test you, constantly, and that makes one tired to perform/regroup all the time.

OP, I think they gave good advice.

My take on it would have been something similar. I guess once you really feel comfortable with yourself, and shake off all the negative comments thrown at you. You can turn it around or ignore it and continue doing your own thing. If they continue to do so, then perhaps cutting them out of your life is the healthier option? Problem is, if they are your family/parents...

Or you could shrug it off and continue. I'm sure you aren't going to go and hurt people with your actions.



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27 Dec 2013, 9:37 am

you really cannot get confidence. you build it. it doesnt happen overnight either. sometimes too much of it is a bad thing. if you are afraid of something, or if your inner self is telling you something is wrong, it may be for a reason. to be over confident, or to loose your conscience is the view of a sociopath.



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27 Dec 2013, 10:24 am

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
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Keep saying "me so great" like 100 times before you go to sleep every night. Maybe you'll start to actually believe it, and then so will chicks. :idea:


That would be delusion not confidence if you are not so great. blah blah blah...


He was joking.


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27 Dec 2013, 2:27 pm

Shau wrote:
The first step toward gaining confidence is learning not to fear failure. Start there.


+1 to this.

In anything we do in life, the first steps are the hardest. We don't know what to do, we're questioning everything and we're uncertain if it's something we're good at hence it can be a "confidence shaker"

Do it, make mistakes but learn to pick yourself up. You will get better and eventually the successes will become come more frequently (not necessarily common).

You may initially win 1:100, then 1:20 and ultimately 1:10. But understanding that you can win and achieve 1:10 is enough to continue.

If you believe you will fail 100% of the time, then there's no real reason to get started or going - and that's what a lack of confidence entails.

Confidence is the ability and willingness to try - not necessarily succeed.



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27 Dec 2013, 5:05 pm

Yeah, hopefully one day I win the crapshoot and a girl will agree to go out with me. Until then....



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27 Dec 2013, 8:34 pm

basically, it's learning to appreciate yourself for who you are, and believing in yourself to succeed in your trials.

That's what they--and in the long run you--find attractive; not just having confidence for the sake of dating...cause that doesn't work that way.



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27 Dec 2013, 10:55 pm

You achieve something amazing in life in which people admire.

Narssicists don't have this problem.. they think their mere existence is admirable.

For the rest of us it's a long journey. YOU have to value you. Which is something I've always struggled with.