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Fnords list is a good one. But I know I don't have my own place and I share a house with three roommates to save up some money and cut down on my past debts. But I drive safely and have my own car that I paid for and am gainfully employed. With hygiene and sorting these two key money factors out, I would engage in social activities and interesting hobbies to meet new people. Pretty much how I approached it.
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Now, if you are anything like I can be, that is not how you approach a date at all. I sometimes catching myself thinking: This is such a wonderful, beautiful person who will make me happy! *cue unicorn farting a rainbow.* Now, if that sounds a bit like the preamble to wedding vows... well it could probably serve. All that emotional sh** is supposed to come later. In order: dating addresses boredom, dating 1 person addresses trust, having a relationship addresses emotion and then sex. Unless you are addressing boredom with sex in which case emotion and trust are a non-factor.
If you try to start the relationship by addressing emotion you are just going to be wayyy to intense. because at that stage of the relationship emotion is not your responsibility. You should not be "happy" on a date, you should be amused. If you are looking for anything more than amusement you will likely get nothing. You also need to provide amusement, since that is what your date is there for.
Some people are going around specifically to find love, but you still need to fill their needs in the order stated. When you are first dating you are just a distraction. And that is perfectly fine. You just need to be a damn good distraction and you will get to be distracting more often. If you come in thinking the other person is going to solve your emotional issues or vice-versa it's like trying to cross a river in one step when there are perfectly good stepping stones to follow if you would just take your time. The end result of overstepping is getting dumped.
This is great! I totally never looked at it this way.....wish I'd been so wise at 23!
I added the "NT" above (and it might apply to NT men, as well), because I think Aspie women (at least me) are exactly the same as you describe in what I underlined. Now I know.....when/if I start dating again, I will just treat it as a distraction, not something to stress about....if that's possible. After all, it is *still* a social situation, which is where I am at my worst.

Not really. I roomed with a guy who came back to our dorm with a different woman at will. It's a combination of charisma and not being ugly.
Hi TheGoggles
Guess he was part of "the lucky minority", depending on your perspective

Not really. I roomed with a guy who came back to our dorm with a different woman at will. It's a combination of charisma and not being ugly.
Hi TheGoggles
Guess he was part of "the lucky minority", depending on your perspective

Oh, he was an objectively terrible person in nearly every way. But he was willing to be my friend and share his..."stash" with me, so I was willing to put up with a lot.
You could work on building up a social circle, as that does put you into contact with more women. Some of it is just time, experience, and open people, just don't turn down offers like parties, going to nightclubs or being asked around to play xbox. Having a job helps a lot, I know that much for sure.
To me, it just feels like normal people can instantly hook up, flirt, and get into relationships without even trying. I am 28 and no girl has EVER agreed to go on a date with me. (needless to say i have never kissed or engaged in sexual relations of any kind).
I do believe they put work into this, and when they were in their teens it would have been a learning process. The problem is you can't just start off on the easy setting like they did, as you're starting late.
Try dating sites. Just don't mention being an aspie unless you're heading into a relationship, no need for people to get the wrong idea unless they need to know.
To me, it feels like normal people are instantly in this giant secret club, where they can all talk with each-other freely, and can easily pick each-other up for relationships.
I know how you feel lol. It's just that feeling of "What is it other people have, that I don't?" or "What is it about me that repels others?". It's a load of crap thinking (and harmful to your chances), it just comes down to poor social skills really.
Cliche but - learn to be happy being alone. Be aware of your needs though and set yourself goals. Women pick up on it if you want it too badly, and remember a normal relationship is not considered a real commitment by most people (perhaps due to relationships being more available to them?).
Most nt people I know do routinely have sex with people they've just met, though. To them a week of talking is a long time while to me nothing seems to change about relationships I have with others over the course of months or years. You can proclaim that it's difficult but most people find difficulty in finding the right people while we can't seem to find anyone at all who will give us a chance no matter how appealing we are physically or otherwise.
this is complete and utter sajifdsjlfdsjlkfds. AN NT in your life may be getting laid every week, so if there are 52 NT's in your life chances are one of them is getting laid and the others are gossiping about it. Only about 2% of people actually have hyper-sex-lives where they have different partners all the time. the rest are lucky to get some action every 6 months or more and rely heavily on alcohol induced stupor to enhance their dating skills.
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Four friends of mine who just met each other last week have had sex about 8 times between them all and none find that particularly unusual. Maybe some people are socially awkward but young adults as a whole have sex all the time.
I don't understand the alcohol thing because I've done drugs and I drink socially and none of it ever made a difference or put me on anybody's radar.
... to summarize: bulshit bulshit bulshit, wine is good.
EDIT: to clarify I made a drunk post I deleted
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Then they are wrong, and can easily be ignored.
Yer but it's still difficult not to find it irksome to read so many discussions here mentioning it. It confuses me.
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bulls**t wine. Is that similar to Cats Pee on a Gooseberry Bush wine?
Yes look it's a real Sauvignon Blanc
bulls**t wine. Is that similar to Cats Pee on a Gooseberry Bush wine?
Yes look it's a real Sauvignon Blanc
I don't know about that one... I think I'd rather have fat bastatd pinot grigio or chardonnay.
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This, for the win!
The more a person obsesses about being "popular", the more likely they are to sabotage their social lives. Also, the more anxious a person is about getting a relationship going, the less likely they are to even start one.
These are not hard-and-fast rules, but they do seem to prevail.
Its tricky getting the balance. Look too disinterested and no one knows you want to date them.
- Good personal hygiene
- College or University education
- Gratifying and stable career
- Generosity / Hospitality
- Expressive talent (dancing, music, painting, poetry, et cetera)
- An optimistic and up-beat attitude (i.e. no complaints or melt-downs)
- A place to live (all your own)
- Reliable transportation (all your own)
- Fashionable clothing
- Accessibility and attention to others
What do you do when you have all of those things and still struggle immensely?
This, for the win!
The more a person obsesses about being "popular", the more likely they are to sabotage their social lives. Also, the more anxious a person is about getting a relationship going, the less likely they are to even start one.
These are not hard-and-fast rules, but they do seem to prevail.
Its tricky getting the balance. Look too disinterested and no one knows you want to date them.
that is true, but part of being a "date" is sexualizing the experience. Make jokes about sex, innuendo (in-YOUR-endo). The goal is to make the convo fun and lighthearted while also making the other person ridiculously horny and want to tear your clothes off if not for social customs. A lot of what "love" starts off as is the byproduct of repressed lust. Eventually that solidifies into it's own thing.
Not all "sexualization" is about sex, for example. Playing guitar makes girls who like guitar players horny, artist's painting etc, bodybuilder's bodies and the feats they accomplish with them. Having a talent or skill to show off is exponentially better than just 1v1 sexy talk in the early stages. Why? because she can brag about those kind of talents more freely and receive positive feedback loops from friends. On the other hand that joke that your dick is big but not so big it's going to rise out of the ocean and destroy half of Singapore (cockzilla), is not necessarily something she can repeat to her friends. (no matter how clever it is).
... please dont ask.
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AQ: 31
Your Aspie score: 135 of 200
Your neurotypical (non-autistic) score: 63 of 200
You are very likely an Aspie
This, for the win!
The more a person obsesses about being "popular", the more likely they are to sabotage their social lives. Also, the more anxious a person is about getting a relationship going, the less likely they are to even start one.
These are not hard-and-fast rules, but they do seem to prevail.
Its tricky getting the balance. Look too disinterested and no one knows you want to date them.
that is true, but part of being a "date" is sexualizing the experience. Make jokes about sex, innuendo (in-YOUR-endo). The goal is to make the convo fun and lighthearted while also making the other person ridiculously horny and want to tear your clothes off if not for social customs. A lot of what "love" starts off as is the byproduct of repressed lust. Eventually that solidifies into it's own thing.
Not all "sexualization" is about sex, for example. Playing guitar makes girls who like guitar players horny, artist's painting etc, bodybuilder's bodies and the feats they accomplish with them. Having a talent or skill to show off is exponentially better than just 1v1 sexy talk in the early stages. Why? because she can brag about those kind of talents more freely and receive positive feedback loops from friends. On the other hand that joke that your dick is big but not so big it's going to rise out of the ocean and destroy half of Singapore (cockzilla), is not necessarily something she can repeat to her friends. (no matter how clever it is).
... please dont ask.
Would you say that it is a sign that the relation isn't a right fit if either of the parties are disinclined to engage in sex-talk?