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13 Jan 2014, 4:56 pm

Could he potentially think you're using him, or are too focused on the topic of intimacy, and that makes him uncomfortable in some way?
Otherwise, I think there's a serious underlying issue. Seems most of the bases have been covered on this, though.

It literally doesn't make any real sense unless he's either being dishonest with you about something (and I'm not merely implying "cheating", there could be other reasons like past sexual abuse), or there is a medical/psychological reason. Maybe he was even really into it at first, and his drive is just going down after all of the action.


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13 Jan 2014, 4:56 pm

Aspie or not he owes you an explanation. If his only offer of an explanation is If you dont like you can leave - well you know where you are. He has zero respect for you and is using you however feels convenient to him.



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13 Jan 2014, 5:36 pm

Perhaps something happened during a previous encounter, that you were not aware of, that he found so off-putting that the thought of sex is no longer appealing and he's not telling you what it is because he doesn't want to humiliate you or hurt your feelings.

Or perhaps he's developed a physical issue in an intimate area that he's embarrassed about and doesn't care for you to see it.



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13 Jan 2014, 5:54 pm

Leafplant, I am with you on that. I *do* expect an explanation, difficulties or no difficulties. All he said is he doesn't understand. He could understand he's doing everything that was a prelude to the final act, but then saying no. We don't ever come into my home anymore. He refuses.

Willard Yeah he could have developed something, but it's still working :oops: I have seen it. But hey ho.

How would you guys/girls approach the question? Any good ideas?



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13 Jan 2014, 6:03 pm

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Leafplant, I am with you on that. I *do* expect an explanation, difficulties or no difficulties. All he said is he doesn't understand. He could understand he's doing everything that was a prelude to the final act, but then saying no. We don't ever come into my home anymore. He refuses.

Willard Yeah he could have developed something, but it's still working :oops: I have seen it. But hey ho.

How would you guys/girls approach the question? Any good ideas?


Well did he 'walk himself through' a typical situation to see whether he has some sort of trigger at some point that is subconscious? Or, as W suggested, he may know exactly why he doesn't want to 'go there' but doesn't Want to tell you. Either way, if no sex is a deal breaker for you, you'd better start assessing your options.



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13 Jan 2014, 9:22 pm

For me, sometimes my feelings for a girl I like get too intense and I cant cope with it and it is much easier to push her away than be overwhelmed by her.
EDIT: is he afraid of premature ejaculation or not being able to satisfy you?

Do you want kids? He may be in favor of eugenics a la autism speaks and feels breeding would be irresponsible.

Is it possible he was unfaithful and got an STD? Or had another health problem that interferes with his ability to have sex safely or risks transmission?

Does he become aroused around you still? I had an issue with one girl where after a period of separation my feelings for her became dissociated from her physical person and so I still loved her but the feelings stopped applying to her in person... it's really hard to explain and was frustratingly illogical.

Is it possible he feels that your relationship is purely physical and wants to make sure you love him? I've heard about that kind of thing happening several times, though usually by women in the sex trade.


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13 Jan 2014, 10:34 pm

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
Ask him.


This.

My guess is either:

- He's terrified of this change and that it might ruin what he already has. Aka, 'if we do it and I suck at it she'll lose interest in me' thing.

- Depending on his age... could by health related. Erectile dysfunction is very embarrassing for a guy. I can't think of anything worse than hopping in bed with a girl I love and 'it' not working.

- AS related? Some have serious sensory issues. This could have caused a really bad/traumatic sexual experience earlier in his life that now blocks him?



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14 Jan 2014, 2:39 am

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Hasn't occurred to me to ask, Boo. He might say it's none of my business. But I guess I could ask. He can always choose not to answer.


He will answer you eventually if you pressure him with this question.



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14 Jan 2014, 3:21 am

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Yellowtamarin, that is a big possibility and I have thought about it before. I did ask him. He said he didnt know. I am very frontal and will reasearch thoroughly into clinical matters. But like I said before, he doesnt have a physical problem given his actions speak louder than his words. And this is why it is so baffling. If he didnt feel attracted I would know. He doesnt deny the attraction. Just doesnt want the intimacy. And who knows if he ever will again? Is it fair to ask if he thinks it will ever be on the cards? Or is that an impossible question to answer? I know we cannot predict the future...

I think it is fair enough to ask, but without pressure. I was in the same situation but the other way around. We broke up. I got better. Perhaps we shouldn't have broken up, but he couldn't wait around for an indefinite length of time, as I didn't know my lack of want of affection was due to depression so I didn't know it was a temporary thing.

I can PM you with some more info if you like...if you think it may be depression, I might have some useful insight.



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14 Jan 2014, 10:16 am

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Years ago I read a beautiful autobiographical piece from the women's perspective, I think published in Salon. She didn't want to have sex for a while, for reasons she found hard to explain, even to herself. But she and her husband cuddled on the couch for long afternoons.



I can actually see lots of couples doing that since most people pretend to not be interested in sex IRL at least publicly whether they have it or not. So they could possibly feel like a phony or something for it. Sort of like how people that regularly view porn usually lie about it IRL as well.



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14 Jan 2014, 11:43 am

Buffinator, it *could* be that. I have sent him that question today(in writing). If it's the emotional thing that is. Problem is he blocks and doesn't respond most of the times. Then I get angry, not because of the problem per se, but not knowing how to go forth to resolve it.

He doesn't say he is afraid of premature ejaculation or not being able to satisfy, he just doesn't say.

Kids are something neither of us want and definitely agreed from the start.

The STD could be a possibility. Who knows? Why can't he just bloody say it? :(

I think he's probably so used to past relationships with NT's where they don't like honesty or say they do and then can't deal with it, that he is probably scalded and doesn't want to jump into hot water again. He did once say that if his past relationships never worked, why would this one? He's defeated before even starting. I like to know why something is happening to figure out a plan. I tell him communication is essential and he just doesn't seem to understand it.

He *definitely* gets aroused. Hence my despair at not understanding. Then even worse, because I ask and I get no answer.

I never thought he might think I see it as physical only, because I have been the only one to express my feelings for him. He used to hate me saying it, but a few days ago he said he likes that I like him. It surprised me, because I didnt know that. He must have changed his mind and now it came out in a random way.

Maybe if I was NT I could understand this guy better, but I am clueless about people unless they tell me what it is they feel or want. At least now I gave him a book about women with AS so he can see. It's only a few days ago as well that he admitted he might have AS too. That's a major breakthrough. But I never forced him to admit it. I just discussed it once or twice and left it. I know with him that's the way it works best. Actually, with me too. It takes me a long time to accept and digest new information.

Dantac that would make sense if we hadn't had an intimate relationship before. But we did.

But of course, people can acquire problems along the way.

I'm not abandoning him though. I'm more frustrated out of being in the dark, than not having intimacy.

Maybe no one ever stayed, when he was himself. Maybe no one ever went back to hug him after he showed his darkest side. Maybe no one persisted. Maybe no one cared.

But I do.



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14 Jan 2014, 11:47 am

Yellowtamarin that would be very much appreciated. Thank you. :)



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14 Jan 2014, 1:25 pm

Sometimes the hottest candles burn the fastest........

It may have started out intense and passionate but now it sounds like he's having mixed feelings in the relationship and thats causing him to push away. He might want to end things but lacks the courage and social tact to do it properly. I used to have the same issue whenever I was seeing someone who's feelings for me became more intense than my feelings for her (or my feelings cooled off). I would be uncomfortable but too concerned with their feelings to pull the trigger and end it. I still liked them and didn't want to hurt them. However, indecision will just end up hurting them more in the longrun. I've experienced this situation from both persepectives actually.

My advice would be to change the paradigm. He's probably not doing it maliciously (possibly the opposite) but he is definetly leading you on. If he still won't offer a real explaination (you deserve one), call his bluff and leave him. He may come back and attempt to be more open and honest with you or he may not come back at all (in which case he was a bad fit and not worth your attention.)



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14 Jan 2014, 11:35 pm

Geek, yeah, I mean, anything is possible. But he wouldn't be the type of person to say he like she liking him and he has had quite a few opportunities where I said I would leave and he always convinced me not to. He said lets try something else. Like going out and doing things. Stuff like that.

Im exhausted in all areas of my life. Its after 4 am and I can't sleep. I have to get up at 6 to go to work until 4.

I won't last today. I am at the end of my tether.



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15 Jan 2014, 4:07 am

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
aspiesandra27 wrote:
Hasn't occurred to me to ask, Boo. He might say it's none of my business. But I guess I could ask. He can always choose not to answer.


He will answer you eventually if you pressure him with this question.
It may help to ask the question in different ways or ask various questions about things that might be related because he may not know himself what's wrong & didn't consider that something's linked.
As for as his attitude of you can leave if you don't like it. He may be really insecure about you not accepting that he's not able to or has major issues with putting out & may feel like you deserve to be with someone who more able & willing to put out if it matters to you that much.


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15 Jan 2014, 4:12 am

He is punishing you and/or lost interest.