Who pays for a date in this 'sexually liberated' era?

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13 Jun 2014, 6:57 pm

I prefer it if each person pays for what they eat, each person pays for their own movie ticket, etc.


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13 Jun 2014, 6:59 pm

I like the idea of each person paying for their food.


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13 Jun 2014, 10:26 pm

I was on a date tonight and while I paid for the bill, she quickly grabbed her coat and all she said was "thanks" and never even tried to foot the bill. I am masculine and better off than her so I didn't mind paying but I didn't appreciate the sense of entitlement she had. It's a gift not an obligation IMO.



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13 Jun 2014, 10:46 pm

I like agreeing to go Dutch for the first date. If we had a great time and I like her, I'll pay for most dates afterwards.


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13 Jun 2014, 10:48 pm

I just paid $200 per hour for my date. Opps! Sorry, misunderstood the topic all together. j/k



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14 Jun 2014, 3:33 am

i go dutch on average.
usually, my gf pays normal food and drinks and the like when i'm at her place, and then i pay the unusual stuff (so: the restaurant or movie tickets) and it averages out; just a practical thing.

when we still lived close, we alternated or split on the spot.



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14 Jun 2014, 4:23 am

Personally I like to split. I have known some girls to get funny with me about it because it's "traditional" for the man to pay, but not all are like that. Enough girls believe in splitting the bill for me to categorise this as an ordinary compatibility issue.



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14 Jun 2014, 1:34 pm

GiantHockeyFan wrote:
I was on a date tonight and while I paid for the bill, she quickly grabbed her coat and all she said was "thanks" and never even tried to foot the bill. I am masculine and better off than her so I didn't mind paying but I didn't appreciate the sense of entitlement she had. It's a gift not an obligation IMO.


You're on eharmony, the lair of traditional women, you should expect a lot of this entitlement bs from them lol.



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14 Jun 2014, 1:48 pm

I see a lot of this opinion from women on the internet.

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All these chivalry acts that a lot of them like are really nauseating, I would bring along a bowl before having to do them.

tarantella and starvingartists, on what planet you really live? :lol: Really, I am should have collected for you a lot of these snapshots.



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14 Jun 2014, 1:53 pm

GiantHockeyFan wrote:
I was on a date tonight and while I paid for the bill, she quickly grabbed her coat and all she said was "thanks" and never even tried to foot the bill. I am masculine and better off than her so I didn't mind paying but I didn't appreciate the sense of entitlement she had. It's a gift not an obligation IMO.


this is why talking about how dinner will get payed for before you go is a good idea. back when i used to actually go on dates (which, granted, was never a common occurrence for me) i liked to establish at the time of setting up the date that we would be splitting the bill at the end of the evening. a couple of times i had guys pay for meals even when i said i would rather pay my own way or even better do something on the date that doesn't cost any money, which is what i prefer to do anyway--but they insisted, so i let them. the rest of the time i paid my own way or we would do something that didn't cost either of us anything, like go for a walk in the park.

boo, tarantella and i are not the only women in the world who don't insist that men pay for dates--have you been paying attention to the other men who have posted in this thread that they usually prefer to split the bill with their dates and it's not a problem most of the time?



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14 Jun 2014, 2:00 pm

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GiantHockeyFan wrote:
I was on a date tonight and while I paid for the bill, she quickly grabbed her coat and all she said was "thanks" and never even tried to foot the bill. I am masculine and better off than her so I didn't mind paying but I didn't appreciate the sense of entitlement she had. It's a gift not an obligation IMO.


this is why talking about how dinner will get payed for before you go is a good idea. back when i used to actually go on dates (which, granted, was never a common occurrence for me) i liked to establish at the time of setting up the date that we would be splitting the bill at the end of the evening. a couple of times i had guys pay for meals even when i said i would rather pay my own way or even better do something on the date that doesn't cost any money, which is what i prefer to do anyway--but they insisted, so i let them. the rest of the time i paid my own way or we would do something that didn't cost either of us anything, like go for a walk in the park.


I've paid for full dates before while they insisted to pay half (most were coffee dates, so not big deal) - I viewed this insistence reflecting a good spirit, it's the the entitlement behavior that Giant mentioned that I hate most.

However, according to this 17000 study:
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Around 57% of women in the study report that they pull out their wallets early in dating to split a bill, but 39% of those women wanted to be told to put their wallets away,


So I am not sure what to believe anymore, one of the dates, who has an extremely blunt character, told me later that she believes that guys who go dutch are stingy, even tho she insisted as hell to pay half, it was all a test, she was certainly like one of those 39% of 57%.



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14 Jun 2014, 2:13 pm

I tend to jump the gun when on dates.
The moment I see the waiter/waitress coming back with a bill in hand, my debit card is out.

Movies? Same deal. The person behind the counter is being given my card as I'm requesting tickets.

It's a reflex. If someone really wants to pay or split the bill, they should mention it *before* we get to that point :P



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14 Jun 2014, 2:17 pm

starvingartist wrote:
boo, tarantella and i are not the only women in the world who don't insist that men pay for dates--have you been paying attention to the other men who have posted in this thread that they usually prefer to split the bill with their dates and it's not a problem most of the time?[/quote]

It's you who should be paying more attention, they said they usually prefer to split, but none said that they never faced a problem in that department.

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When I was dating, we rarely went Dutch.


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Whoever asks for the date pays. Usually that's the man.


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Long ago, I simply paid. Today, I try to alternate, so I pay every other time. I do make mental notes and watch to see if things are getting out of balance. When I was a kid, expectations for women were generally low, so guys were expected to take up the slack. Today, a woman who doesn't do her part is a deadbeat. If a woman can't keep up her part while you are dating, she will be a financial boat anchor if you commingle, cohabitate, or get married. So, watch carefully and take notes - do so silently.
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I agree with this. You're inviting someone to get to know you better, so in my eyes that means you should "gift" them the experience.

It must be said I don't consider going out for dinner as dates though, and you should decide together where and split the bill or take turns choosing where and paying.


He's certainly conditioned too that men should pay because they are usually the ones who ask out but I don't really get this logic. I see dating as a meetup between two persons or a mutual activity and not an invitation to something, when I wanna invite someone I would say "I invite you to...".

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I will not pay for someone's food unless I have established ahead of time, for whatever reason, that I am treating them. I do not want to be expected to pay for someone else, regardless of circumstances. Maybe I will offer, but everyone should go in expecting to foot their portion of the bill.


Yet he didn't mention he never faced problems/rejections from dates because of that.

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I've had some women who expected me to pay, and others who preferred to split things. I think that splitting makes the most sense, particularly in the early stages...I feel a little taken advantage of when I'd pay for everything on a first or second date and then never see them again!



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I was on a date tonight and while I paid for the bill, she quickly grabbed her coat and all she said was "thanks" and never even tried to foot the bill. I am masculine and better off than her so I didn't mind paying but I didn't appreciate the sense of entitlement she had. It's a gift not an obligation IMO.


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i go dutch on average.
usually, my gf pays normal food and drinks and the like when i'm at her place, and then i pay the unusual stuff (so: the restaurant or movie tickets) and it averages out; just a practical thing.

when we still lived close, we alternated or split on the spot.


He doesn't really count, we are talking about dating and not about an already established relationship.

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Personally I like to split. I have known some girls to get funny with me about it because it's "traditional" for the man to pay, but not all are like that. Enough girls believe in splitting the bill for me to categorise this as an ordinary compatibility issue.

And I certainly agree with him.



Anyway starvingartist, as you can see in their posts, it's not really that's it not a problem most of the times.



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14 Jun 2014, 4:21 pm

starvingartist wrote:
GiantHockeyFan wrote:
I was on a date tonight and while I paid for the bill, she quickly grabbed her coat and all she said was "thanks" and never even tried to foot the bill. I am masculine and better off than her so I didn't mind paying but I didn't appreciate the sense of entitlement she had. It's a gift not an obligation IMO.


this is why talking about how dinner will get payed for before you go is a good idea. back when i used to actually go on dates (which, granted, was never a common occurrence for me) i liked to establish at the time of setting up the date that we would be splitting the bill at the end of the evening. a couple of times i had guys pay for meals even when i said i would rather pay my own way or even better do something on the date that doesn't cost any money, which is what i prefer to do anyway--but they insisted, so i let them. the rest of the time i paid my own way or we would do something that didn't cost either of us anything, like go for a walk in the park.

boo, tarantella and i are not the only women in the world who don't insist that men pay for dates--have you been paying attention to the other men who have posted in this thread that they usually prefer to split the bill with their dates and it's not a problem most of the time?


i worry this will only end all communication. that they will be like hes either cheap or unemployed.
granted I'm both I'm cheap cause i don't have alot of money, to survive it is needed to be cheap(wise with money)
If i was rich I'd probably pay for women no problem. I in the past have had to spent 50 on one lady, 30 on another. neither are around. oh another 25 on another. I prefer to do a walk somewhere but not all women want this they want to go do something fun that cost money. :roll: I don't even get to do that stuff, but have paid for others to do it. I don't get too many shots with women so i am afraid of ruining them be asking they pay half, yet i really can't afford to spend tons of money.

i new this guy who spent 600 dollars on a date.



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14 Jun 2014, 4:23 pm

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
I see a lot of this opinion from women on the internet.

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All these chivalry acts that a lot of them like are really nauseating, I would bring along a bowl before having to do them.

tarantella and starvingartists, on what planet you really live? :lol: Really, I am should have collected for you a lot of these snapshots.


I have no problem doing alot of that, I don't mind it and its being nice. I'm old fashioned. the opening the car door for them to get out seems silly, most people will open their doors before i have the chance to run around the side. opening the car door for them to get in is easy as we reach the door at the same time.



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14 Jun 2014, 4:51 pm

sly279 wrote:
starvingartist wrote:
GiantHockeyFan wrote:
I was on a date tonight and while I paid for the bill, she quickly grabbed her coat and all she said was "thanks" and never even tried to foot the bill. I am masculine and better off than her so I didn't mind paying but I didn't appreciate the sense of entitlement she had. It's a gift not an obligation IMO.


this is why talking about how dinner will get payed for before you go is a good idea. back when i used to actually go on dates (which, granted, was never a common occurrence for me) i liked to establish at the time of setting up the date that we would be splitting the bill at the end of the evening. a couple of times i had guys pay for meals even when i said i would rather pay my own way or even better do something on the date that doesn't cost any money, which is what i prefer to do anyway--but they insisted, so i let them. the rest of the time i paid my own way or we would do something that didn't cost either of us anything, like go for a walk in the park.

boo, tarantella and i are not the only women in the world who don't insist that men pay for dates--have you been paying attention to the other men who have posted in this thread that they usually prefer to split the bill with their dates and it's not a problem most of the time?


i worry this will only end all communication. that they will be like hes either cheap or unemployed.
granted I'm both I'm cheap cause i don't have alot of money, to survive it is needed to be cheap(wise with money)
If i was rich I'd probably pay for women no problem. I in the past have had to spent 50 on one lady, 30 on another. neither are around. oh another 25 on another. I prefer to do a walk somewhere but not all women want this they want to go do something fun that cost money. :roll: I don't even get to do that stuff, but have paid for others to do it. I don't get too many shots with women so i am afraid of ruining them be asking they pay half, yet i really can't afford to spend tons of money.

i new this guy who spent 600 dollars on a date.


if politely suggesting that you share the costs for the date if there are any costs causes a woman to cease all communication with you, then i think it's safe to say she is doing you a favour by removing herself from your life. who wants to date someone like that, anyway? this is another reason why being honest from the start works in your favour: it makes it easier to weed out the crap ones early on, so you have more time for the ones who aren't dating for mercenary purposes but rather because they want to spend time getting to know someone.