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04 Nov 2014, 6:20 am

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If you're not into love/relationships, no one's forcing you to believe in love / have a relationship. So opt out.

(I'm a bit more optimistic. Relationships either crash & burn or end in marriage).

Somebody will eventually die. You can't escape it.

The point for me is what good I do for that person while she IS still here and how I honor her life if she's taken from me.

If I die first then, well, I'm DEAD and it's not going to matter. But that just means it's that much more urgent that I care for others while I still have time. I feel like I could go to the grave in peace if I live my life that way. I don't want to my last thoughts wishing others had worked harder to satisfy ME.



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05 Nov 2014, 1:00 am

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[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fD5f1qGWtFg[/youtube]Theres no such thing as love it doesn't exist. Self interest exists attachment exists and self gain exist but not love its just chemical reactions in the brain its all a lie and an illusion! The world is an empty place living off lies that's all there is to it! What is the point of getting in a relationship knowing it is bound to end sooner or later? it is going to end either way so its all pointless!


If you're not into love/relationships, no one's forcing you to believe in love / have a relationship. So opt out.

(I'm a bit more optimistic. Relationships either crash & burn or end in marriage).
I want to be in one but its hard its very hard especially knowing I am going to be lied to and betrayed in the future its all a lie!I am soon to be obsolete when the partner realizes she finds another man who makes more money and has a faster car! She is merely renting me until she finds something better!


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05 Nov 2014, 1:23 am

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0rWunrNejmA[/youtube]Love in a nutshell!


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05 Nov 2014, 2:37 am

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Why does it being chemical reactions in the brain make it a lie or illusion?....chemical reactions cause feelings, so what, doesn't make them any less real than if something else caused them. Also I suppose if you know for sure any relationship will end I guess maybe there is not much point in getting in one.....unless you're ok with the prospect of it coming to an end eventually. However there are people in relationships where it doesn't end up ending as well.
Having such feelings is a waste and hinders efficiency!There is no such thing as love it is all a lie and a waste of time a rouse to get you to procreate for a species that is already successful for survival and not endangered in anyway! Making money is where it is at as well as improving yourself without anyone hindering your progression with false promises of love only lying to get into your pants!


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06 Nov 2014, 5:42 pm

I do believe it does?sadly, I let that one go. :?



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06 Nov 2014, 6:28 pm

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Why does it being chemical reactions in the brain make it a lie or illusion?....chemical reactions cause feelings, so what, doesn't make them any less real than if something else caused them. Also I suppose if you know for sure any relationship will end I guess maybe there is not much point in getting in one.....unless you're ok with the prospect of it coming to an end eventually. However there are people in relationships where it doesn't end up ending as well.
Having such feelings is a waste and hinders efficiency!There is no such thing as love it is all a lie and a waste of time a rouse to get you to procreate for a species that is already successful for survival and not endangered in anyway! Making money is where it is at as well as improving yourself without anyone hindering your progression with false promises of love only lying to get into your pants!

Meh...efficiency is important and has its place. When emotions are involved, you kinda have to forget about efficiency. Some folks just feel differently about what is most important in life, so you idea of efficient is irrelevant. I'm not saying I don't sympathize with you here, I'm just saying you have no control over other people that way.

Making money? I hate money. I prefer having the things money can buy along with financial freedom and the peace that comes with it. The only good thing about having money is it allows you the freedom to do good things for people. You know what happens when you do good stuff for people? They give you money! Lol

Who says you can't improve yourself by letting others get into your pants? I get a general sense of fulfilment and well-being when this happens to me. :p



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06 Nov 2014, 9:57 pm

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Why does it being chemical reactions in the brain make it a lie or illusion?....chemical reactions cause feelings, so what, doesn't make them any less real than if something else caused them. Also I suppose if you know for sure any relationship will end I guess maybe there is not much point in getting in one.....unless you're ok with the prospect of it coming to an end eventually. However there are people in relationships where it doesn't end up ending as well.
Having such feelings is a waste and hinders efficiency!There is no such thing as love it is all a lie and a waste of time a rouse to get you to procreate for a species that is already successful for survival and not endangered in anyway! Making money is where it is at as well as improving yourself without anyone hindering your progression with false promises of love only lying to get into your pants!


Don't plan on pro-creating, and chemical reactions are real things....still single anyways, but if I end up in a relationship and it becomes a serious one I would not complain. I have already had ended up with guys who clearly did not care much about me as a person and cared more about intimacy however its not really holding me back from anything I am progressing towards. Those are just crappy short term relationships, where the guys should have been more upfront about what they were after.


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07 Nov 2014, 8:43 am

I agree, Otaku. Love doesn't actually exist anymore. Love used to, up until this recent media blitz full of sex and unbelievably perfect-looking people started. Then everybody latched on and "love" became about what people have and how good they look. Now the people who would normally get dates are the ones having to sit back and watch all these stupid people get together and have stupid babies.

I sincerely hope we get a world-altering cataclysm within the next decade.



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07 Nov 2014, 8:49 am

Waffles exist....therefore, love exists.

I'm not that far from being average looking---but when I make my wife a waffle, I might as well be Adonis.



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07 Nov 2014, 12:00 pm

Sweetleaf wrote:
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Why does it being chemical reactions in the brain make it a lie or illusion?....chemical reactions cause feelings, so what, doesn't make them any less real than if something else caused them. Also I suppose if you know for sure any relationship will end I guess maybe there is not much point in getting in one.....unless you're ok with the prospect of it coming to an end eventually. However there are people in relationships where it doesn't end up ending as well.
Having such feelings is a waste and hinders efficiency!There is no such thing as love it is all a lie and a waste of time a rouse to get you to procreate for a species that is already successful for survival and not endangered in anyway! Making money is where it is at as well as improving yourself without anyone hindering your progression with false promises of love only lying to get into your pants!


Don't plan on pro-creating, and chemical reactions are real things....still single anyways, but if I end up in a relationship and it becomes a serious one I would not complain. I have already had ended up with guys who clearly did not care much about me as a person and cared more about intimacy however its not really holding me back from anything I am progressing towards. Those are just crappy short term relationships, where the guys should have been more upfront about what they were after.
I have yet to find a serious relationship most just want to play games and I have grown tiresome of their games and stand alone, I occasionally get into casual relationships but am starting to no longer feel the drive to seek love anymore because to me it really seems all a lie.


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07 Nov 2014, 3:03 pm

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I agree, Otaku. Love doesn't actually exist anymore. Love used to, up until this recent media blitz full of sex and unbelievably perfect-looking people started. Then everybody latched on and "love" became about what people have and how good they look. Now the people who would normally get dates are the ones having to sit back and watch all these stupid people get together and have stupid babies.

I sincerely hope we get a world-altering cataclysm within the next decade.


People used to love each other before it was cool, now that it's cool its been corrupted.

lolz couldn't resist that. Even so I think it probably still exists....but popular culture has turned it into some twisted thing where you love someone for what they have, so you love what they have and confuse it for the real thing since I imagine for it to be real both people in the relationship have to care deeply about each other, not how much the other compliments their image, or the things that person has. But maybe it doesn't exist...and just trying to be optimistic who knows.


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07 Nov 2014, 3:11 pm

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Why does it being chemical reactions in the brain make it a lie or illusion?....chemical reactions cause feelings, so what, doesn't make them any less real than if something else caused them. Also I suppose if you know for sure any relationship will end I guess maybe there is not much point in getting in one.....unless you're ok with the prospect of it coming to an end eventually. However there are people in relationships where it doesn't end up ending as well.
Having such feelings is a waste and hinders efficiency!There is no such thing as love it is all a lie and a waste of time a rouse to get you to procreate for a species that is already successful for survival and not endangered in anyway! Making money is where it is at as well as improving yourself without anyone hindering your progression with false promises of love only lying to get into your pants!


Don't plan on pro-creating, and chemical reactions are real things....still single anyways, but if I end up in a relationship and it becomes a serious one I would not complain. I have already had ended up with guys who clearly did not care much about me as a person and cared more about intimacy however its not really holding me back from anything I am progressing towards. Those are just crappy short term relationships, where the guys should have been more upfront about what they were after.
I have yet to find a serious relationship most just want to play games and I have grown tiresome of their games and stand alone, I occasionally get into casual relationships but am starting to no longer feel the drive to seek love anymore because to me it really seems all a lie.


Pretty much the story of all my relationships....think for now I will stick to casual, nothing serious and if I end up spending a significant amount of time with someone and we develop a close bond and things get more serious so-be-it, but not going to attempt to seek it out. Sick of guys who are still stuck on their ex or some other chick they knew or whatever playing games like they want to be my boyfriend and then finally bring up that crap as their reason why we can't continue dating....like the last dude apparently he had been seeing this other chick nothing serious yet, but never even bothered to mention that and gave the impression he wanted to more or less be with me at least for a while...then tells me 'oh don't think we can have anything ongoing, because I am more interested in this other chick I was seeing first.' essentially that would have been nice to know ahead of time so I knew what to expect. Not entirely opposed with say hooking up a few times with someone and doing intimate things without forming a serious relationship but would like to know that is what they are looking for ahead of time.


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07 Nov 2014, 8:58 pm

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I agree, Otaku. Love doesn't actually exist anymore. Love used to, up until this recent media blitz full of sex and unbelievably perfect-looking people started. Then everybody latched on and "love" became about what people have and how good they look. Now the people who would normally get dates are the ones having to sit back and watch all these stupid people get together and have stupid babies.

I sincerely hope we get a world-altering cataclysm within the next decade.


People used to love each other before it was cool, now that it's cool its been corrupted.

lolz couldn't resist that. Even so I think it probably still exists....but popular culture has turned it into some twisted thing where you love someone for what they have, so you love what they have and confuse it for the real thing since I imagine for it to be real both people in the relationship have to care deeply about each other, not how much the other compliments their image, or the things that person has. But maybe it doesn't exist...and just trying to be optimistic who knows.


Actually, your first sentence kind of sums the whole thing up. Love has really become a hipster thing. Pop culture turns everything to s**t eventually. There was a time period where your normal, average person, and even below-average people, could find love and find it pretty young. Now if average people wanna find love, they have to wade through gallons of BS and also wait till they're past 40 to find it. Which is no good because it's best experienced when you're in your 30s at latest.

I feel bad for this guy I know who finally got a girlfriend after 43 years. His whole life passed him by without him having one. And now this woman he's with is basically using him to take care of her kids. It's no good.



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07 Nov 2014, 9:05 pm

I still haven't lost faith in love, naïve though this faith may be.



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07 Nov 2014, 10:25 pm

I didn't even have to check the name to know that Otaku posted this.

I think some people find love and some don't. I'll probably just adopt 20 cats and become a recluse.



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07 Nov 2014, 10:32 pm

CynicalWaffle wrote:
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I agree, Otaku. Love doesn't actually exist anymore. Love used to, up until this recent media blitz full of sex and unbelievably perfect-looking people started. Then everybody latched on and "love" became about what people have and how good they look. Now the people who would normally get dates are the ones having to sit back and watch all these stupid people get together and have stupid babies.

I sincerely hope we get a world-altering cataclysm within the next decade.


People used to love each other before it was cool, now that it's cool its been corrupted.

lolz couldn't resist that. Even so I think it probably still exists....but popular culture has turned it into some twisted thing where you love someone for what they have, so you love what they have and confuse it for the real thing since I imagine for it to be real both people in the relationship have to care deeply about each other, not how much the other compliments their image, or the things that person has. But maybe it doesn't exist...and just trying to be optimistic who knows.


Actually, your first sentence kind of sums the whole thing up. Love has really become a hipster thing. Pop culture turns everything to s**t eventually. There was a time period where your normal, average person, and even below-average people, could find love and find it pretty young. Now if average people wanna find love, they have to wade through gallons of BS and also wait till they're past 40 to find it. Which is no good because it's best experienced when you're in your 30s at latest.

I feel bad for this guy I know who finally got a girlfriend after 43 years. His whole life passed him by without him having one. And now this woman he's with is basically using him to take care of her kids. It's no good.


I have to admit a lot of people in relationships I observe remind me why half the time I wouldn't even want to bother, seems like too much crap. I mean I do not think its impossible for people to love each other, but I think much of the time people are more into a bunch of superficial crap and once that's not enough to distract they realize they didn't build the relationship on anything and don't actually get along or really care about each other even. I mean people shouldn't have a significant other just to have a significant other.

But yeah I know in history a lot of times people would get married for financial reasons, or essentially be forced into it, or in some cultures like sold I mean so it really was not like 'normal' to have a loving relationship necessarily....of course over time people moved towards relationships with people they actually wanted to be in a loving relationship with. And now its like everyone is obsessed with material crap and mistake their love of the other persons material crap for love towards that person. Hence why it ends should one of the people in the relationship lose the crap the other person was into. In a couple years I could see people breaking up because they can't agree to disagree on if apple products are overpriced or not or stupid stuff like that, maybe its already come to that. I avoid mainstream 'culture' if you call it that.


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