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06 Nov 2014, 7:01 pm

If anyone has any other questions pipe in, I'm also interested in those that would be interested in signing up before launching the beta site.



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07 Nov 2014, 1:57 pm

I'm thinking of possibly making the site free (It is still up in the air).

What I propose is the possibility of credit card validation. This is small charge like 1 cent which is reversed immediately. It is quite a common practice to check cards before transactions. SMS confirmation could be be a way to avoid this, but may not be available to all, will have to see it this is worth it.

I would not hold credit card information.

The idea would be to make it less attractive to scammers, etc.

There will be some initial cost that I would like to recoup some of the money on so donation would be welcomed. I will be focused on core infrastructure but will need some quality UX and graphic design, Also there rest would go to site improvements. So there would be an option to make donation at the time, which can be opted out of.

I would not do this charge on sign up, you would be free to make a profile, search, etc. The first time you wish to make contact then you would need confirmation, and you can make a donation.

I am also influenced by the comments on appearance. I'm not going to take appearance completely out of the equation becuase I don't think that would work and it is too extreme. However making the primary search requirements less focused specifically on appearance, an more on general qualities is a good idea, as it is different from many sites.

How does that sound?



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07 Nov 2014, 6:02 pm

sounds like pretty much all other dating sites then. you can search ok people for any word. and people don't have to input any info on their profiles. I tried looking for apsergers for example and got results of people that put it in their profiles.



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07 Nov 2014, 6:30 pm

sly279 wrote:
sounds like pretty much all other dating sites then. you can search ok people for any word. and people don't have to input any info on their profiles. I tried looking for apsergers for example and got results of people that put it in their profiles.


The difference is on how you would specify your requirements, to receive suggestions and the interface.

The main thing people would not be expected to have conventional expectations, by being for neurodiverse, people are already clued up on that.



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08 Nov 2014, 10:59 am

Would it be possible to link the site with things like the aspie quiz? You could search for people with similar personalities that way. You could also create a group creation feature where people can create groups under various headings. That way you can pick your groups on signup and be linked with people with similar interests.

I think that having a robust system for linking people with the same special interests will make or break such a site. It probably should be linked to Wrong Planet too for maximum visibility


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08 Nov 2014, 11:19 am

It would be possible to put that information on the profile, but I'm not endorsing a particular test, there are countless test and theories.

Yes interests would be something people could search on. A special interest would be an interest that is rated high, and a minor interest is weighted lower.

I would say there is no reason to assume that people with people with special interests necessarily are interested only people who share there interests. Some of my interest are things I do on my own.



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08 Nov 2014, 12:23 pm

I did a check of complementary and similar traits that resulted in successful relationships in Aspie Quiz. Those are not as simple as shared special interests. In fact, if I remember it correctly, it's better to be complement each others in the social domain, and have similar traits in the relationship area. Interests probably have little relevance.

I even suggested trying this to eHarmony, but they showed no interest.



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08 Nov 2014, 12:46 pm

rdos I respect you, but I am not endorsing a particular theory. Although I have no objection to people listing this information on their profile.

As you probably know I'm not a proponent of your Neanderthal theory of ASD, by still I respect you regardless.

Even if you are correct about compatibility, it is not my intention to socially engineer this. In fact I specially want to avoid these kind of algorithm that are often on dating sites, as these compatibility algorithms are divisive and often gimmicky.

Possible in the long term there may be some sort of API for aps, not in the near future becuase of feature creep concern.



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08 Nov 2014, 1:53 pm

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rdos I respect you, but I am not endorsing a particular theory. Although I have no objection to people listing this information on their profile.

As you probably know I'm not a proponent of your Neanderthal theory of ASD, by still I respect you regardless.

Even if you are correct about compatibility, it is not my intention to socially engineer this. In fact I specially want to avoid these kind of algorithm that are often on dating sites, as these compatibility algorithms are divisive and often gimmicky.

Possible in the long term there may be some sort of API for aps, not in the near future becuase of feature creep concern.


I agree with that actually. Im currently part of a forum which works as a dating site but primarily functions as a place for music lovers to congregate. It works because of this. People are discussing what they love and sharing this and so get to know the entire community rather than just swiping left or right to a stream of bland uninteresting photos.
I think that having the site either affiliated with WP i.e. integrated within it or having a separate forum within the site will prove sufficient. I would suggest something along the lines of a forum dedicated to film lovers where people can discuss specific genres and films. Extend that across a few larger super "forums" and you'll have people actually communicating in real time and possibly making cross gender relationships too.

It might work to have the site function as a place to make friendships with other aspies as opposed to primarily a dating site because I know that that will turn alot of people off. From my perspective i'd join up and use it for a week then get bored regardless of level of responses. Only reason im still with my current forum/dating site is that I actually appreciate the discussion that goes on there


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10 Nov 2014, 10:03 pm

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I wouldn't want to pay at all. only way I would pay is if the site guarantees some level of success or only has women pay. the reality is dating sites for men is just a waste of time that most companies try to milk for all its worth. guys pay hundreds of dollars and by the end of the year are still single having had no dates. I won't pay to send a message to a girl and get maybe one or two back before she moves on to the next guy.


Your ideas are pure fantasy.

1. of course you don't want to pay....no sh*t
2. guaranteed success....bahahahahaha!! !!
3. women pay....BAHAHAHAHAHA!! !!

dude you are 100% unrealistic, surely you see that, don't you?



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10 Nov 2014, 11:32 pm

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I wouldn't want to pay at all. only way I would pay is if the site guarantees some level of success or only has women pay. the reality is dating sites for men is just a waste of time that most companies try to milk for all its worth. guys pay hundreds of dollars and by the end of the year are still single having had no dates. I won't pay to send a message to a girl and get maybe one or two back before she moves on to the next guy.


Your ideas are pure fantasy.

1. of course you don't want to pay....no sh*t
2. guaranteed success....bahahahahaha!! !!
3. women pay....BAHAHAHAHAHA!! !!

dude you are 100% unrealistic, surely you see that, don't you?


how am I unrealistic when there are already sites that do this?



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11 Nov 2014, 1:40 am

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slave wrote:
sly279 wrote:

1. of course you don't want to pay....no sh*t
2. guaranteed success....bahahahahaha!! !!
3. women pay....BAHAHAHAHAHA!! !!

dude you are 100% unrealistic, surely you see that, don't you?


how am I unrealistic when there are already sites that do this?


Name examples of sites that fulfill all 3 criteria. Until then I call BS.



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11 Nov 2014, 3:12 am

slave wrote:
sly279 wrote:
slave wrote:
sly279 wrote:

1. of course you don't want to pay....no sh*t
2. guaranteed success....bahahahahaha!! !!
3. women pay....BAHAHAHAHAHA!! !!

dude you are 100% unrealistic, surely you see that, don't you?


how am I unrealistic when there are already sites that do this?


Name examples of sites that fulfill all 3 criteria. Until then I call BS.


never said it had to obtain all three.

okc/pof are free.

eharmony use to guarantee you'd get dates or your money back. few other say so too.
paid dating sites are just a scam most of the time. they know men are desperate and try to take them for as much as they can as long as they can until they figure out its not working then they move on to the next guy.
I only spend my money on things that have a use and bring results. would you buy a lighter that doesn't light?

the women paying is just my ideal as women are way more likely to find sucess on dating sites and are the choosers, makes more sense when theres a 1 woman to 20 guys and she has 20 guys to choice from and the guys have 1 woman to fight for between 20 guys that 19 guys would end up paying hundreds of dollars with not possiblility of a date. so just makes more sense to me that the women who have more to gain should pay.

you are the one who assumed that I wanted a sight to require all three where in reality I was listing 3 different and separate site ideas.

I go on okc cause its free. I waste nothing but time. where as If i was to pay eharmony its 20 a month and have no results for 2 years i lose $240.
then ad that only women who pay also can respond to me. and lots of sites that are paid employ fake women bots to make it seem like you are getting tons of messages but you can't respond until you pay them then all the messages dry up.



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12 Nov 2014, 4:26 am

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how am I unrealistic when there are already sites that do this?

Name examples of sites that fulfill all 3 criteria. Until then I call BS.

never said it had to obtain all three.

you are the one who assumed that I wanted a sight to require all three where in reality I was listing 3 different and separate site ideas.

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You said " I wouldn't want to pay at all. only way I would pay is if the site guarantees some level of success or only has women pay."

the site.....singular as is ONE site, not 3

just quoting you

anyway, no point, f**k it



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12 Nov 2014, 5:15 am

There are dating sites that make only men pay.



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12 Nov 2014, 3:44 pm

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
There are dating sites that make only men pay.

Not my concern.

First the point isn't to make money, secondly I won't be perusing this business strategy.