How to choose between two girls?
LocksAndLiqueur
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So, the consensus here seems to be that the shy, agreeable girl would be best. You seem to agree with that and based on what I've read I agree. As for how to initiate a relationship, I'm afraid I'm in no position to be giving advice. I've had terrible luck with asking girls out. I don't do anything embarrassing mind you, I usually just end up with a female friend who I feel kind of awkward around for a while.
It's good that you know what she's interested in. I never personally understood the appeal when it came to Canada. I live just a relatively short drive from the border and it's basically the same as the U.S. except they're on the metric system and just a little bit more socialist (though the difference is far more slight than most people make it sound). It's not a bad place at all, just one that I've never heard of anybody being so entranced by it. Of course, it may just seem mundane to me because it's always been so close. Not that I've travelled all over Canada (or the U.S. for that matter). Just dipped my toes in British Columbia and the Pacific Northwest. I'd offer to see if I could get a Canadian license plate or something from my uncle Will and send it to you to give to her, but that could be an awkward process.
Something that I always struggle (and often fail) to bring myself to do is actually tell someone when I have romantic feelings for her. If you want things to progress in that direction, you're going to have to tell her at some point. I know how terrifying it is to face the potential for rejection, but just think of what you stand to gain if things go well
Also, if she's as nice as you make her sound the potential for it to really bit you in the ass is fairly minimal. Something that I've learned from a couple of an ever increasing number of female friends I once had romantic feelings for is that someone can recover from something like that if it turns out she isn't interested. A couple times now I've grown close to a girl, expressed feelings for her, found that she didn't reciprocate those feelings, then just pretended like it didn't ever happen afterwards. It'll be a bit awkward for a while, but a lot of girls will forget about something like that if you just continue to act as you always have.
Good luck and let us know how things go.
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That makes sense. I want to establish a friendship with her outside of scheduled events. I have a habit of doing much of my socializing at such events and I have a feeling she does too. If I could come up with some kind of platonic sounding excuse to see her outside of the lodge than I could gradually ease into friendship with her.
I'd want to friend her on Facebook as well. That would help so I'd have some means of communicating with her other than seeing her at the lodge once per week (assuming she becomes a regular). The trouble is, I don't know her last name ![]()
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Just ask her to go for a coffee! For heaven sake, you're not asking her to marry you.
And forget about the Sydney girl. She doesn't respect you.
I live in Kingston, Ontario. It's beautiful here (not in the winter.) On the shore of Lake Ontario (one of the great lakes.) Lots of restaurants, the Grand Theatre, a half hour from cottage country. Halfway between Toronto and Montreal (both interesting cities.) Not to mention Ottawa, the capital of Canada. And the 1000 islands. Plus we have an airport with flights to Toronto.
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I've been going there for about two years, ever since I stumbled across it while looking for a long lost Seventh Day Adventist friend (who I eventually found on a farm).
And forget about the Sydney girl. She doesn't respect you.
I live in Kingston, Ontario. It's beautiful here (not in the winter.) On the shore of Lake Ontario (one of the great lakes.) Lots of restaurants, the Grand Theatre, a half hour from cottage country. Halfway between Toronto and Montreal (both interesting cities.) Not to mention Ottawa, the capital of Canada. And the 1000 islands. Plus we have an airport with flights to Toronto.
I guess asking her out for coffee wouldn't hurt. At least that way it's ambiguous and I have plausible deniability but... My most successful dates have been the ones where the girl new it was really a date. All the times I tried to make it seem like I was just being friendly, the girl reacted badly when she found out it was really meant to be a date.
Now the next question is, how to overcome the touch barrier with someone who doesn't like being touched?
It might seem like a trivial thing but I've learned in a string of dates that it's something that can't be ignored. Girls have told me they thought I didn't like them when I just sat across from them but when I took a more hands on approach they were more reciprocal. For women it's an important part of pair bonding... for most women... but not this one?
Does anyone here have knowledge of hypersensitivity and how to deal with such things? She didn't actually say she can't be touched, only that she's "sensitive to touch and sound and smell".
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The limestone architecture in Kingston is lovely.
There's no way to know how she feels until you spend time with her. If coffee goes well, suggest going to dinner or whatever becomes appropriate.
You may be jumping the gun a little. Spending time with her will allow you to observe her behaviour. This may not even end up being a problem. But again, you can only learn this over time.
Just ask her about her sensitivities. It will give you something to talk about, and allow you to better understand her. For me personally, I don't like someone that cames up from behind me, or touches me unexpectedily (picture a skittish animal), but I actually don't mind the touching part of it. Also, I can't tolerate strong scents and odors from manmade chemicals too long, because they will give me a headache.
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No I don't. I have one girl that might be better for me (mentally stable) and another girl who I already know is willing to date me, move in, marry me, etc and I already know she's more sexually liberal whereas, shy-girl might be, shy, and/or hypersensative to touch.
I think since the girl in Sydney will remain in Sydney for a few months more, this gives me some time to get to know the shy girl a bit better so she'll be less of a mystery.
Actually, the girl in Sydney has been giving me the cold shoulder lately for some reason...
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And all the time in-between she'd alternate between declaring her love for me, threatening to leave me and crying at me because I said the wrong thing. I still have feelings for her but I think it would be good for me to be with a girl who's more stable and consistent.
Last week there was this girl at the lodge. I'd met her two or three times at the community center but this was the first time she'd come to the lodge. This was the first time I'd gotten to have a proper conversation with her.
She's nice. She's kind of shy but that only made her more endearing to me. She's not one to make discussions on impulse. She has cutest laugh where she scrunches up her whole face and body. She's skinny and small and cute, like a pixie, even though she's a year older than me.
I could ask her out sometime. It's just a bit awkward with her mum there. She goes everywhere with her mum. She still lives with her mum even though she's 28. Not that her mum hates me. Her mum said she really missed seeing me at the community center since I got my new job.
They said they would come back to the lodge. So now I'm thinking, how do I ask out a shy girl? Should I wait a longer time? Should I become friends first and then ask her out?
With girls in general I've always been bad making the transition from friend to dating. Is there a proper way to know when the time is right or do I just have to make a leap of faith?
Anyway, the girl I was dating before said she wants to stay in Sydney for a few more months before returning. She says she's saving up for new furniture, which she wants to put in my apartment because she doesn't like mine. Also saving up for bond for a better apartment because she doesn't like that either.
She says she wants a two bedroom apartment so she can have her own room. Not her own bedroom, her own computer room. She says sometimes she needs time to herself (I don't blame her for that, we all do).
This new girl? She says she doesn't like loud noises or strong smells like perfume. She says she has hypersensitivity in all five senses. She says she doesn't like being touched. That could make intimacy impossible (also her shyness). Whereas the girl I was dating before was more sexually liberal.
Girl-from-before was a few years younger and appealed to my Asian fetish. New-girl is a year older than me and not Asian but she's much skinnier and cuter.Most importantly, new-girl is more stable and consistent. She may be shy but she's not crazy like the other girl was.
Advice please?
FLIP A C0IN
The new girl = heads, the ex = tails. Problem solved.
At least for women in their late 20s, the idea of "taking it slow" or "giving it time" is simply advice given teenagers with the goal to prevent them from having sex. In my experience, any girl who ever told me she wanted to "take things slow" just wasn't interested.
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She seemed to be very engaged with our conversation but I wasn't sure if she was trying to show interest or if she was just being friendly. Based on her percieved nievity, she might be a greenhorn at this but again, this is only speculation.
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She seemed to be very engaged with our conversation but I wasn't sure if she was trying to show interest or if she was just being friendly. Based on her percieved nievity, she might be a greenhorn at this but again, this is only speculation.
Regarding
To digress, the girl who currently resides in Sydney, she seems to have some haters on this forum but she seems way more normal to me than others have suggested. I think it takes a better understanding of NT women to recognize how relatively normal some of her behavior has been. Plus she seems really into you and if you weren't also into her to a fair degree I think you'd have dumped her conclusively without needing the opinion of others.

