Some very basic dating tips
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Of course, when you are getting laid you are getting another guy laid too. In heterosexual dating, a guy getting laid usually does mean another guy can't. The same is even more true for anyone seeking a long-term monogamous relationship.
I'd agree that the people with access to sex aren't always the same as the people with access to money, and that sex is more widely distributed...but there are still some who cannot. For example, I am bi, which would normally make it easy for me to find another guy. However, I grew up in an extremely conservative church and spent quite a few nights laying awake worrying about going to hell.
I didn't mean that when I'm getting laid another guy is getting laid. I meant that just because I'm getting laid doesn't mean some other guy can't go get laid. Same thing in heterosexual relations. Just because some guy is getting laid doesn't mean you can't go get laid. He's not taking away your vagina. There are literally Billions of them out there for the taking. If you're the kind of guy that can get laid, then it doesn't matter what other people are or aren't doing - you'll go out and get laid if you want to. It's as simple as that, really. If you're not the kind of guy that can get himself laid, it's because you don't believe you can & your thoughts and actions manifest your sexless life.
Yeah, sure, there are some people who won't be able to get themselves laid for various reasons. But the vast majority of people have the capability.
As for your church story... you know what IS an actual real living hell? Spending quite a few nights laying awake worrying about going to hell. Hell is a mental construct. Live your life thinking like you were and it'll be a living hell. Think happier healthier thoughts and your life can be heaven on Earth. True story.
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Yeah, sure, there are some people who won't be able to get themselves laid for various reasons. But the vast majority of people have the capability.
Interesting, you claim to have experience with women, yet statements such as these seem to indicate otherwise. Allow me, as a heterossexual male, to educate you on the complexities of different-sex relationships.
1. Women aren't out to "get laid". Women's goal is to secure commitment from high-status males, that's it. Sex is merely the tool they use to achieve that goal.
2. If a man cannot serve to improve a woman's social status in any way, shape or form, then she has literally not use whatsoever for him. She will not date him, she certainly won't sleep with him, and in most cases, she won't even associate with him for fear his low-status might rub off on her.
3. Women are hypergamous serial monogamists. Meaning they will only enter into a relationship with the highest-status man they can find (provided he's also of high enough objective status as opposed to just being comparatively so). And once do enter into said relationship, they are effectively "off the market" for men of lower status than their partner, and will only end the relationship when/if another relationship opportunity with an even higher-status male presents itself.
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Yeah, sure, there are some people who won't be able to get themselves laid for various reasons. But the vast majority of people have the capability.
Interesting, you claim to have experience with women, yet statements such as these seem to indicate otherwise. Allow me, as a heterossexual male, to educate you on the complexities of different-sex relationships.
1. Women aren't out to "get laid". Women's goal is to secure commitment from high-status males, that's it. Sex is merely the tool they use to achieve that goal.
2. If a man cannot serve to improve a woman's social status in any way, shape or form, then she has literally not use whatsoever for him. She will not date him, she certainly won't sleep with him, and in most cases, she won't even associate with him for fear his low-status might rub off on her.
3. In case it wasn't obvious from 1 and 2, in heterossexual relationships, the sides do NOT share the same goals and ambitions, and more often then not find themselves in diametric opposition to one another.

Allow me, as a masculine straight looking & acting gay man who women talk to openly, to explain some things.
1. Not all women are after money/status, but most. The same can hold true for some gay guys seeking wealthy guys, but it isn't as common as the hetero-norm. Some women ARE in fact just looking to get laid sometimes. I've had heterosexual female coworkers tell me about their dates/hookups etc. I've also read many stories posted by women in a private facebook group about their sex lives where they just look to get laid sometimes. So, it happens - and probably a lot more than you think.
2. Unless she's just looking to get off with someone she's sexually attracted to and that's it - which does happen whether you want to acknowledge it or not. It's possible that she may seek to use her sexual encounter story to raise her social status amongst other females she brags to about hooking up with said guy, so there's that possibility. Higher status males likely have a better chance of being a one night stand hookup for girls seeking this, but that's not necessarily a requirement. It could simply be just an aesthetic "type" attraction thing. As a gay male, I can tell you my decisions to sleep with someone have sweet f**k all to do with their socioeconomic status or financial assets - it's about attraction. Couldn't care less what a guys bank account balance is & I'm sure there are plenty of women out there with similar mindsets when seeking to fulfill a sexual need or desire.
3. Just because you're not getting laid doesn't mean it's not happening left right and centre. It is.
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Yeah, sure, there are some people who won't be able to get themselves laid for various reasons. But the vast majority of people have the capability.
Interesting, you claim to have experience with women, yet statements such as these seem to indicate otherwise. Allow me, as a heterossexual male, to educate you on the complexities of different-sex relationships.
1. Women aren't out to "get laid". Women's goal is to secure commitment from high-status males, that's it. Sex is merely the tool they use to achieve that goal.
2. If a man cannot serve to improve a woman's social status in any way, shape or form, then she has literally not use whatsoever for him. She will not date him, she certainly won't sleep with him, and in most cases, she won't even associate with him for fear his low-status might rub off on her.
3. Women are hypergamous serial monogamists. Meaning they will only enter into a relationship with the highest-status man they can find (provided he's also of high enough objective status as opposed to just being comparatively so). And once do enter into said relationship, they are effectively "off the market" for men of lower status than their partner, and will only end the relationship when/if another relationship opportunity with an even higher-status male presents itself.
Allow me, as a woman, to educate you that...ugh I can't even be bothered. If you haven't read the multitude of other reports from females that contradict your over-generalising points, you won't read this one either.
2. Unless she's just looking to get off with someone she's sexually attracted to and that's it - which does happen whether you want to acknowledge it or not. It's possible that she may seek to use her sexual encounter story to raise her social status amongst other females she brags to about hooking up with said guy, so there's that possibility. Higher status males likely have a better chance of being a one night stand hookup for girls seeking this, but that's not necessarily a requirement. It could simply be just an aesthetic "type" attraction thing. As a gay male, I can tell you my decisions to sleep with someone have sweet f**k all to do with their socioeconomic status or financial assets - it's about attraction. Couldn't care less what a guys bank account balance is & I'm sure there are plenty of women out there with similar mindsets when seeking to fulfill a sexual need or desire.
3. Just because you're not getting laid doesn't mean it's not happening left right and centre. It is.
1. Pretty much all women are about status, just like pretty much all men are about sex. Social status is the primary motivator behind women's actions, just like sex is for men. As for women who actually enjoy sex, yes, they exist, but they are rare, and I mean extraordinarily so. So much so that when one does show up, they write news articles about her. I'm not even kidding, by the way. Go on Google and search the terms "Pass Around Girl" to see what I mean.
2. Having sex doesn't really raise a woman's status in any way, more likely than not, it'll lower. At best, if the man is extraordinarily attractive and high-status, it'll generate some minor buzz among her circle of friends, but nothing more. And the buzz quickly fades anyway. I pretty much ignored everything that came after "as a gay male" because we're discussing women and heterossexual relationships, so none of it was relevant.
3. As a gay man, I am sure you are getting laid constantly. But then again, as you yourself said, that's no great achievement. For a gay man, getting sex is like shooting dead fish in a barrel. However, it would behoove you to understand that not all of your heterossexual counterparts are not so fortunate (in fact, most aren't).
I did, and if your actions actually backed up what you say in those "reports", I might actually take them seriously.
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Ignoring the fact that heterosexual women tell me about their sexual hookups doesn't make it any less true. Seems you're just not getting any and seeking to blame it on the fact women are only seeking high status males, when the reality is likely more so because you lack the social skills required to get yourself laid.
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I did, and if your actions actually backed up what you say in those "reports", I might actually take them seriously.
My personal history certainly does not reflect any of those points. But then perhaps you meant "NT women" only, which is still generalising, so maybe you meant "the types of NT women I try to date", then maybe we are getting somewhere.
Yes, women sometimes do that, but it's really just an attempt to save face. Classic scenario: Mary Plain Jane is picked up at a bar by Chad McAlphamale and essentially becomes his sex toy under the delusion that he's actually interested in a relationship with her. She starts bragging to her friends about this great new guy she met, but eventually realizes he isn't actually interested in any form of relationship and just wants to keep her as a booty call. Mary Plain Jane then breaks things off with him, and makes a cock and bull story about how she was just using Chad McAlphamale for sex or whatever to save face in front of her friends, when the truth is she just got played, and in more ways than one. Then again, you being a gay male, and not a particularly attentive one at that, judging by your writings, I wouldn't expect you to know this.

Yes, women sometimes do that, but it's really just an attempt to save face. Classic scenario: Mary Plain Jane is picked up at a bar by Chad McAlphamale and essentially becomes his sex toy under the delusion that he's actually interested in a relationship with her. She starts bragging to her friends about this great new guy she met, but eventually realizes he isn't actually interested in any form of relationship and just wants to keep her as a booty call. Mary Plain Jane then breaks things off with him, and makes a cock and bull story about how she was just using Chad McAlphamale for sex or whatever to save face in front of her friends, when the truth is she just got played, and in more ways than one. Then again, you being a gay male, and not a particularly attentive one at that, judging by your writings, I wouldn't expect you to know this.

He wants to keep her? I thought picking up at a bar usually meant just a ONS. He seems more interested in longevity than many who pick up at bars.
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Yes, women sometimes do that, but it's really just an attempt to save face. Classic scenario: Mary Plain Jane is picked up at a bar by Chad McAlphamale and essentially becomes his sex toy under the delusion that he's actually interested in a relationship with her. She starts bragging to her friends about this great new guy she met, but eventually realizes he isn't actually interested in any form of relationship and just wants to keep her as a booty call. Mary Plain Jane then breaks things off with him, and makes a cock and bull story about how she was just using Chad McAlphamale for sex or whatever to save face in front of her friends, when the truth is she just got played, and in more ways than one. Then again, you being a gay male, and not a particularly attentive one at that, judging by your writings, I wouldn't expect you to know this.

Um, no.
Girls I work with tell me flat out they hooked up with some guy the night or weekend before because he was hot/cute/had a nice accent etc. Not that they met some guy and are hoping it leads anywhere... that they got laid. Period.
Again, just because you're not getting laid doesn't mean that girls aren't out there having sex for he pure enjoyment of it. Because they are. Apparently just not with you - and with your know it all attitude, I can see why.
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My parents met at a bar and have been married for over 40 years. I'm sure there are countless other long term couples who met at bars, too. Bars don't automatically mean ONS.
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Girls I work with tell me flat out they hooked up with some guy the night or weekend before because he was hot/cute/had a nice accent etc. Not that they met some guy and are hoping it leads anywhere... that they got laid. Period.
Again, just because you're not getting laid doesn't mean that girls aren't out there having sex for he pure enjoyment of it. Because they are. Apparently just not with you - and with your know it all attitude, I can see why.
And I just told you it's an attempt to save face because they got played. Gee, lack of attentiveness is one thing but this is just getting ridiculous.
Also, I just realized you're the same guy who posted that thread titled "Toxic Masculinity". I thought you'd have realized after the thrashing you got there that no one here's buying into your feminist crap, and insulting and demeaning us is certainly not going to help in that regard.

In other words, NAWALT, right?

Honestly though, I don't know. I've never met any Aspie women irl, and even online, I've seen very few. I've seen many women CLAIMING they're Aspies, but they didn't really show any symptoms and once you talked to them for a little while, it became very clear that they're just normal NT women trying to use Aspergers as an excuse for their own personal failures.
And I wasn't to learn much even from the few Aspie women I've met online who seemed genuine because, interestingly enough, when pressed on the subject, they all either said they were assexual or had no interest in sex.
Which led me to develop a theory; it's commonly said that assexuality has a slightly higher rate of incidence in Aspies than on NTs. This never made sense to me because all the Aspies I've met (all of the males) were very much interested in sex. What I think happens is that the Aspie women they use for these studies basically all come out and admit they're not at all interested in sex, the way most NT women aren't. Difference of course being that NT women realize that that admission greatly hinders their chances of being able to secure commitment from high-status males (or any male), which is their ultimate objective for the most part, Aspie women do not.
It's just theory, though I really would like to see a study done on assexuality in Aspies that differentiated between male test subjects and female test subjects. I think it'd come up with some pretty interesting results.
What do you think needs to change about it?
As for your last thought.. I mean, there are cultures that do arranged marriages and such - but even that is a competitive process where people are assessed by all the same metrics as dating.. appearance, social status, occupation, financial position, friends/family/association, education etc etc etc. I really don't think it's realistic to expect dating/mating to deviate from the natural norm of competition & the survival of the fittest. Ever.
women are in charge, women demand higher and higher goals. fewer men can meet those goes.
idk women could love and see men for men and not how much they make or what car they drive. you know treat each other as human beings instead of cattle. but that'd be crazy.
but yet even in those places poor people still get arranged with other poor people. because they still want the poor to reproduce and keep the family line going. so its likely i'd been married off if just for the sake of caring on family lines and reproduction the labor force. the west has shipped its labor overseas so the rich don't care about reproducing the labor force here anymore. in fact they'd rather they all just die off.
whatever though atleast I can see tons of women remain single. helps knowing that when I die and set myself free they'll remain and suffer under their own making.
funny how its ok to say that about men who only want to date models, that they made their own s**t, yet women who only want highly paid men somewhere are entitled to them just for being born with a vagina. I find this double standard anoying and truly sexist. women deserve love and whatever they want, guys don't and should die or man up. really would a mass extinction be so bad? the human race is so worthless as a total. I wish for a nuclear war to end it all.
That feel when a gay guy knows more about women than most of the straight guys in this thread.
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Girls I work with tell me flat out they hooked up with some guy the night or weekend before because he was hot/cute/had a nice accent etc. Not that they met some guy and are hoping it leads anywhere... that they got laid. Period.
Again, just because you're not getting laid doesn't mean that girls aren't out there having sex for he pure enjoyment of it. Because they are. Apparently just not with you - and with your know it all attitude, I can see why.
And I just told you it's an attempt to save face because they got played. Gee, lack of attentiveness is one thing but this is just getting ridiculous.
Also, I just realized you're the same guy who posted that thread titled "Toxic Masculinity". I thought you'd have realized after the thrashing you got there that no one here's buying into your feminist crap, and insulting and demeaning us is certainly not going to help in that regard.

Can you read?
They didn't get played. They got laid. This is not the 1950's. Women aren't afraid of being horny sexual beings with needs & desires every bit as real as a man's. Girl's can and do make the decision to hookup with guys for their enjoyment. Again, if just because it's not happening with you doesn't mean it's not happening.
You're mistaken. I didn't post that thread and I'm not a feminist.
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