Spiderpig wrote:
kraftiekortie wrote:
My "secret" is to NEVER seem desperate--and treat ladies like people.
I've never understood what either of those points means.
According to some definitions, if you've never had sex, a relationship, or anything of that sort, you're automatically desperate, no matter what you do, and women can smell it, so there's no point in trying to conceal it. This seems to imply you should just give up for life. In fact, I've sometimes wondered if merely sitting next to a woman or talking to her when circumstances force it can be considered some form of harassment. There are milder definitions, but it's anybody's guess which is the "right" one and why.
Also, while there are many obvious ways
not to treat them like people, there's no telling what you need to do to actually treat them like people. I have no idea why very much everybody seems to agree that a person you feel sexually attracted to is no longer a person to you, and there seems to be no way around this, either. It's precisely ideas like the ones I've mentioned what makes it hard for me to see women as fellow human beings, rather than some kind of distant aliens, always in a position of absolute moral superiority to me, and always aware of how worthless I am next to them, so I shouldn't expect them to let me taint them with my presence.
Of course, it's much easier to fall prey to these ideas alone in my room than it is outside, seeing what actual people of both sexes look like.
I've found in today's society you can't even chat to a random person these days of the opposite sex, or sometimes even a reasonably attractive person of the same sex, without them picking up the wrong idea and them giving you the whole "ugh, get away from me" vibe.
Too many people think you're a manipulative person always with hidden motives instead of being able to have regular normal conversation with them.
Even if they don't think you are trying to hook up with them, they still might assume you are trying to be friends with them and might instantly reject you simply because they do not like your mannerisms.
I can still do it though it seems, but only because of my age. Like last year I would talk to random young adults around 18-25 on the bus all the time. Many were students from the university on the daily bus route, some were just random adults. Like this one Hungarian dude from overseas.
Most were males, but still...
Would be much harder doing this being a random stranger the same age than "just a curious kid".