The real reason why you aren't hit on much by women.
Half a minute is the average time it takes neurotypicals to change the subject in a casual conversation, so it makes sense for it to be the time they take to lose interest when an aspie talks about a special interest, too.
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The fact that you guys experience very very rare occasions of being hit on, only means that you are not seen physically attractive by the majority of women in your surrounding.
My tinder experiments strongly indicate that women have kind of ....well.... hive-like preferences when it comes to men's looks and what's generally attractive and what's not.
Meaning, that either the *vast* majority of females around you think you are hot, or they don't - it's like a high score or nil.
The hive-like preference means that when a girl finds a guy hot, there's a pretty very high chance that the next girl to her will find the same guy hot too- and a pretty high chance that her friends will approve him to date him - male hotness is like fashion, what's fashionable in one community might not be so in another. For instance, a white boyfriend in some Asian communities is fashionable.
Fandoms for Twilight and 50 shades of grey are due to this too.
http://wrongplanet.netforums/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=285005
And janissy's post is gem there that reveals a lot of things viewtopic.php?f=6&t=285005&start=105 - yes, a woman's perspective about women is definitely more credible than ours, provided she's being bluntly honest and totally non political correct like Janissy - and that's pretty rare, the problem is, most people are politically correct and conformist and women often don't like to hurt others' feeligns; hence why women rarely reveal such things about their gender.
I get hit on a lot online, by specific ethics like the other thread shows, why? Because Hive-preferences differ from one community to another.
I was never hit on at all online or offline when I was very skinny and bony - why? Because the *vast majority* of women don't like skinny and bony guys.
I started to get hit on a lot after I got a bit toned body - why? Because the *vast majority* of women like toned guys.
I don't get hit on as much in real life as online - why? Because of my 5'3 height, a physical trait which isn't visible in pics, is seen by the *vast majority* of women as a deal-breaker and a turn off.
Virtually every woman told me I look better without glasses - why? Because it's an another herd-like preference.
And aspie girls aren't that different btw; the compliments I got from WP girls followed the same trend mentioned above.
Yes, I do claim that now I understand women very well - too well maybe. Probably, I deciphered women's general behavior toward males way better than most PUA idiots.

Yes, women do hit on guys, and they do it a lot, but you think they don't because you aren't those guys.
I don't think it's a good idea to generalize women like that. Honestly, my idea of attractive in a guy is probably something a lot of women don't like anyways. Also, I lack the whole hive mind think some other women have, so that might be why.
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I concur with this, for I used to ignore all women all the time, and of the ones that I did bother to eventually socialise with, when I was learning to actually socialise, I would often be able to find a common interest or two or several between me & the girl, and for some reason such shared interests often seems to make the girl feel a lot closer to you.
But no one has to believe me, and I'm not asking them to. Neither am I saying "You should do this", or "My way is the only right way". I'm just relating some personal experiences of what worked for me.
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The hard part is having interests worth sharing and being good at them.
Well, and being young. If you're not young anymore, I guess it's game over for you.
Giving up on anything to do with women would make my choices for the rest of my life much, much easier. The problem is I'd never forgive myself for letting go of any tiny chance I might still have.
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Like others have said, the key, I believe, is to not look desperate. Talk to women like people--like you're their friend. Stop "listening" to all that research which "teaches" you how to pick up women. Research ain't real life--it's maybe a reflection of it told from a macrocosmic viewpoint. Anecdotal accounts are the best teachers.
Face of Boo, I think you need to accept that the kind of woman who talks about gender issues online often see women as a group oppressed by men and believe that it is not safe to talk honestly about women's faults with the oppressor group, the same as a black anti-racism activist would not want to talk about honest problems they see and discuss in their own community on a forum full of racists who would use black people's issues to make black people look bad.
On a feminist, women's only forum they might talk more honestly and self critically "why do so many of us date jerks over and over?" "why do so many of us only date tall men?" but they are never going to talk that honestly with someone who puts women in the firing line like you do.
And if they did, so what? has Janissy's honesty put anything good in your life or gotten you a girlfriend, no. Short men have the ability to hurt and exploit women through things like sex work more than conventionally unattractive women can or want to do to men (aside from the occasional mad female dictator maybe) , so they are going have less sympathy and more of a guard up.
I didn't act desperate, I was doing something that I enjoyed, I didn't stare, and I wasn't bothering anyone. At the time, I was also young, fit, healthy, and had a little extra spending cash.. Those must be the key qualities.
definitely ! build your own self up and make yourself feel complete and happy with yourself, then you will be worth dating.

Really? I felt quite complete and happy with myself before I started worrying about dating and everything you need to make it remotely possible. It's easy to believe you're not missing anything valuable when you're so very ignorant, as I was, that you have no idea how much you're missing. That certainly didn't mean I was any less undateable.
You need to be actually interesting and have something to offer, and you have to expect others to be already enjoying very rich and fullfilling lives, so they'll be much more demanding than you are with yourself when you're used to wasting your life away and not caring to please anyone else.
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I recall when younger, I used to just go out and enjoy myself at the bars and night clubs. I wasn't looking for anything at all. Eventually, women would start talking to me and introducing themselves to me. I would hit it off, then it would break off for whatever reason after a short while. I did find that some friends (and eventually I got like this as well), started to come out for the sole purpose of trying to hook up with others since it used to come easy. Now it became hard to get women to talk to us. Eventually, everyone stopped trying and started doing what we did in the first place: enjoy the night regardless of what happens.
What is attractive? It's all subjective anyway.
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This.
My personal experience is that there's a direct negative correlation between people who do all their "socializing" from behind a computer screen, and people who are worth getting to know.
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I had a sexual encounter today, and there will be another next weekend.
And it wasn't behind the screen - and nope, it was not something paid.
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Look, if you, fnord and tombo are referring to me, let me tell you: I don't "socialize" behind the screen - I even barely use facebook, and I definitely don't "socialize" with any WP member on a forum.
And if we are gonna talk about negative correlations, so be it, I also see a very strong negative correlation between people who JUDGE others and assume stuff about them behind the screen and people who are totally not worth of getting to know, how about that? eh? It's only fair, tit for tat psychoanalysis.
So....stop assuming stupid things, the three of you.
Do I seek sometimes for potential dates or even for potential casual sex behind the screen? Yes, I do, but it's just for that.
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