Is a 4 year age difference too much?

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This can really backfire, OP. If the people you hang around are the sort of people who interpret every action as sexual, hanging out with 12 year old girls at your age, you can seriously mess up your reputation.

Can you think about other ways to make friends? I've seen some other threads where someone was asking for advice for his teenage son to develop some friendships. There was some good advice there.

At your age, I'd rather hang out with people who were older than younger.

Sorry bro, no good on that one. It's not the age difference so much as it is her age overall. You could get yourself in legal trouble and be a registered sex offender for the rest of your life. I saw on TV a few years back, a show where this kid who was 18 was dating a 15 year old. They broke up. Like two years later the parent pressed charges and he now is treated like a pedophile for the rest of his life. He has to give flyers to people that warn that he's a sex offender. Which is F**KED!

I mean when I was 18 I dated a 15 year old for a few months. We had gotten together when we were 17/15, I turned 18, and she was still 15 for like 5 months. I had no idea back then I could have gotten in so much trouble. The more f*cked up part about that was at that time I was a virgin, never even kissed a girl before her, and she was, well, quite active, with college guys and all, three ways all that before me, yet I would have somehow corrupted her.

When you get older 4 years is nothing. I am married to a woman 4 years younger than me. It's funny though when we talk about high school years I realize how f'd it would have been back then. Like when I say such and such reminds me of my senior year, she reminds me she was in middle school.

4 years is biologically significant in the teen phase of life.

I know you are from another culture and that certain cultures allow marriages or work responsibilities at a much earlier age but scientifically, there is a huge difference biologically.

This could really backfire on you so I would advise that you find women your own age. She might just be impressionable because she is young and you should not take advantage of that in any way.

If she's 12, yes.

Way too damn young.

Stay away.

Once you're 18, you can date anybody you please who is your age or older.

Leave the 12 yo little girl alone!

Honestly, it's a cause of concern that you, as a 16 year-old, would be interested in someone that young, unless she's physically mature for her age (and even then, it's still pretty creepy). What's stopping you from dating girls your own age?

For those saying that love is love, in this case, I'm very inclined to disagree. 12 year-olds in general haven't come very far in terms of sculpting their ideas and values, and a 16 year-old, whilst not at the end of the road yet, is vastly further ahead.

My question to you, OP, is what do you see in this girl? Is it that she has some qualities that you really admire about her, or is it more that she's the only girl that will give you the time of day?

Please, sir......this is very important. You have to not be stubborn in this instance. You have to, please, listen to us.

All what you have said is distressful. You feel like a pariah. Yes, I've felt precisely the same as you when I was in high school.

All that doesn't matter.

If you're thinking of being a mentor to this girl, then I think it might be all right.

But if you're thinking of a dating relationship, DON'T DO IT. If you do, things will get MUCH WORSE for you--especially if you go show signs of being in a dating relationship with her.

I don't think you're a pervert--but society will think you are, especially if you do sexual things with her. Just the fact of dating her is really no good.

It doesn't matter of all of high school girldom rejects you. It doesn't matter at all. I would just try to better myself through studying, trying to calm down, getting back to regular school, doing research papers, even studying the Koran and other Islamic texts in an objective manner, and listening to Reason, rather than Extremism.

Get your average up to the 90's, so you could have a better chance of getting into a decent college. Again, just calm down, in general.

Will yourself to calm down--even if you use Islam to do so. Channel that angst into your literary works.

Okay, kraftie, ill take your advice.... i wont date her until she's 18.... but you know, I wasn't gonna date her to begin with.... I was just gonna be friends with her..... but are you saying I cant be friends with her, either?

Don't try to steal her innocence, leave her alone to live her childhood.

And I don't understand what in common you two would have, even as friends.

If she were 18, then no it would not be. However in this case it is very wrong.

MonsterCrack certainly seems to have a continued interest in meeting young girls. He claims it is to be friends, not a romantic interest, but then he seems to frequently mention how he doesn't have a chance with girls his own age.