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It shouldn't make sense, that's the problem. Women are still unconsciously viewed as 'lower'. Sadly just because winners aren't taking part in that behavior it doesn't mean that if they then became losers that they wouldn't take out their rage on those 'lower' than them.

^ I haven't explained myself, please don't project your ideas on me.
What I think has nothing to do with men or women being "lower".
What I mean is this:
1 Man tries to be good with woman.
2 Gets rejected.
3 Repeat step 1 and 2 many times.
4 Man is pissed off and "confused" (must be other people's fault).
5 Blames women for rejecting him.
6 Sexist comments.

Has nothing to do with anyone being "lower".

By those calculations I'm an online Beach master ......

Without even reading any of the replies... sexism against women (and other forms of it as well) is equally a male and a female prejudice. Woman have sexist attitudes toward themselves and toward other women, and they enforce what is called 'prescriptive' stereotypes, often even more stringently than do men. That's our reality. Targeting and scapegoating another population that has been marginalized and is already suffering does us all a disservice. It is sad that this just keeps coming back up, and people keep swallowing it without employing research or critical thinking.

You're confusing sexism with misogyny. And I'm sure that unattractive women have resentment towards men too.

But this is the point: Antipathy towards women comes in 2 different form.....there is contempt for women(sexism) and there is resentment towards women(misogyny).

However, what I find quite telling is a presumption that if you are getting sex from women, then you must actually *like* them and respect them. When there are thousands of examples of abusive men who have contempt for women but still manage to attract women.

I'd like to see some references to the methodology behind this study.

Good points, however I would like to say that while *some* unattractive people no doubt resent being rejected by potential romantic partners, this is by no means a universal condition of being unattractive even in the largely narcissistic, shallow, appearance-obsessed WEIRD culture.

Many people find love outside of the established norms of attractiveness, and are grateful for what they have rather than resentful for the lack of status that a 'shinier' partner might have brought to them.

It is sad how some males turn to sexism and misogyny after they had bad encounters with women. They really shouldn't. Generalizing an entire gender based on a few bad experiences is unfair.

And would you say that it's equally sad how some females turn to sexism and androphobia after they've had bad encounters and relationships with men?

Fnord is focusing on how men treat women and trying to make misogynists look bad so that people around these parts will think he's a good person. I don't think that sexism in either direction is a good thing or an acceptable thing but I'm more interested in the *actual* causes of it than in PR. What matters to me is what you do to and around the opposite sex, and not what you say about them.

What does bother me a great deal about a lot of women I've met is that they judge people on what they say(openly) and the *image* or reputation that this person has rather than by the consistency of their words with their deeds and how they actually treat others. These of course, are highly sociable NT women. American culture is more concerned with image than substance...and definitely more with the cult of personality than with good character.





Well yes. And that is first and foremost because they ARE able to get *a* partner even if it isn't the most desirable partner. But it's also because those people are adaptable; mentally and emotionally. In order to simply survive, let alone find happiness, you must have adaptability. Not everyone has it to the same degree and undoubtedly those who do are more attractive(survival of the fittest).

Did I write I only think males behave this way? No. I assumed this thread was mostly discussing the jaded male type. But I do agree it is equally sad that there are some bitter females who think all men are "pigs". My initial thought to when they say sexist comments like that is, "Yes because you know every single man on this planet?"

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The exact same thing could be said about men. This particular behaviour (looking to the surface rather than deeper) is a human thing, not a woman thing. It's human nature to be fooled by surfaces, the majority of people of both sexes are susceptible to judging a book by it's cover rather than it's contents.

I might add that this so-called innate tendency varies according to the culture the humans are embedded in.

I'm inclined to agree. Men judge women by their outward physical appearance but generally don't care about her reputation if they think she's good lookin' at first sight. But social status is ultimately based on how you're viewed by other members of a group and that seems to be more important to women in terms of how they judge other women as well as size up men. In the eyes of many women, a man who looks good but has a bad reputation isn't gonna measure up to a man who may not be quite as cute but is *cool*.

No. Men judge by reputation as little as possible, being judgmental impairs situational awareness. It's not specific to anybody unless they're an immediate danger or have been absolutely written off. Men try to avoid judging women by their pasts because OBVIOUSLY that is mean. Out of hand, out of head.

If this comes off as disingenuous & gets me on the pig list, I got nothing. I'll be over here doing things. Maybe see if any girls are up for some vidjagames...

Yeah, you'd think they would realize that they're the problem and would simply give up on dating.

Everybody has the right to be a hateful bigot.

That doesn't, but the study mentioned in the OP isn't about being rejected repeatedly by the objects of your affection.