I can't be careful - disclosing AS etc.

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13 Sep 2016, 8:46 am

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People tend to think of autistic people as being "ret*d" in some sense

I've disclosed in certain situations. What I got back is people treating me in a condescending matter---like I'm a child, or like I'm somebody who might go crazy on them.


Either that or - if you happen to be on the more high-functioning end of the spectrum and can do a reasonably good impersonation of an NT in situations where it's necessary - they think you're just using your condition as an excuse for laziness or rudeness.

Due to having been ostracised once or twice by NTs in the past after having dosclosed my AS, I now only disclose to other people who are on the spectrum. My current (NT) g/f and I have been together three months and I haven't even told her yet. She knows I'm artistic though, so I think she just sees my behaviour as a product of creative eccentricity - a POV I'm happy not to disabuse her of for the time being.



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13 Sep 2016, 8:56 am

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I honestly think you're a fine girl for this man, Bridgette.


He accepts me for who I am, and I accept him for who he is, it's as simple as that. If the rest of the world would play that nice, it would be a lot better. Whether you're dealing with Autism, Aspergers, Blindness, or another disability, as not to leave any out because there are so many, at the end of the day, we are all people with feelings, thoughts, emotions, hopes and dreams. We all want to be loved and treated with respect.



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13 Sep 2016, 9:10 am

You can have interesting conversations without disclosing AS.



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13 Sep 2016, 10:15 am

kraftiekortie wrote:
You shouldn't disclose your autism until you've gotten close enough to a person to be thinking about having a committed relationship.


I agree and disagree with this at the same time. I knew someone whom I let know about my AS fairly early on, but at that point, we weren't even in love with each other yet. Nor was I considering the possibility - and she probably wasn't either. Anyway, she just more or less shrugged it off.

I do think it's more beneficial than harmful to disclose one's AS to people sooner rather than later. However, it shouldn't be too early either. I don't usually disclose my AS to people until a foundation of trust has been established. Unless they're medical experts or otherwise "official" people, but that's another thing entirely.


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13 Sep 2016, 11:43 am

The guy I was talking to actually replied a couple of hours later apologising for his phone battery having run out. He said he knew a few autistic people. I wondered if he just made that up. Though, it's probably genuine.

I knew this girl at college who was dyslexic and had a little sister who frequently had panic attacks. She was interesting to talk to, and she would come up to talk to me every now and then. I knew her for about two years. When I mentioned I had AS, she suddenly had to go, and I've never seen her since.

So yeh...I'm thinking perhaps earlier is better. Or just because I end up blurting things out anyway.

The weather is too hot here. It's 29 degrees C, though I guess that's nothing compared to where some of you reside.


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13 Sep 2016, 1:53 pm

That's friggin' hot for London--probably record-breaking temperatures!

It's only about 27-28 in NYC, which is a much hotter place on average in September.

People tend to have funny reactions to autism.



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13 Sep 2016, 6:55 pm

I disclose my dx after I feel I that I have presented myself as a functioning human being. If they're ok with it that's a possible friend for life. If they don't like it they can kick rocks lol


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14 Sep 2016, 1:48 pm

People who have funny reactions to Autism are ignorant, uneducated, and are the ones missing out in my opinion! As Closet_Jenius so perfectly put it, if they don't like it, they can kick rocks!! haha! I love it! Gotta use that one! My boyfriend is one of the sweetest, caring kindest people I know, and he would do anything for anyone. I knew about his Autism, before we started dating, and when his Mother asked me if I knew, I told her that I did, and I didn't care. It made no difference to me. That was what led me out here to y'all nice people, and I think all of you are terrific. I stay here now, because I like you all.



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17 Sep 2016, 1:35 pm

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People really think that of a diagnosis of ASD? That we're unstable and crazy, and to be feared? We're that scary to people?


Yes unfortunately. Be it from the media claiming all the shooters were autistics or aspergers or because they've meet an bad apple . Lots of people see us as mentally unstable or children.

Theresa a guy on YouTube I like watching and he worked for a mental hospital at some poin and so doesn't think aspergers people can be trusted and are prone to violence randomly. Thinks we're better locked up probably. He's judged all of us on the ones he met who were that way.

I don't disclose hell IM currently trying to decide if I want to put in for accomandation but then have everyone at work including the girl j know probably find out in aspie and treat me different or just let them fire me for not being able to push people into getting a credit card due to my social disorder and social anxiety. It's a tough choice.

Growing up I never told people. I was super ashamed if it and still kinda am. I love want to be normal I want to be independent. I don't want people seeing me as a freak and a thief :cry:

That said I do when I get really into talking with people blurt out other things.
Like complaining with other coworkers at work. I'm super afraid it'll get me fired but when they start I can't stop myself :s we don't seem to talk about the good parts of work o.0 i dont know if that's normal for most work places.

Do you feel anxious later when you get home ?
I do I go home and have mini anxiety attack. Like img why did I say that what if they take it wrong and don't like me what if upper management finds out :s

I'm quite naive and trusting with women too and tell too much



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18 Sep 2016, 2:51 am

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I blurt things out to people. It is ingrained in me.

How do those who hold back...manage? How do you do it?
I normally do not understand the specific things that make people angry, but I can categorize topics that tend to make people angry or uncomfortable: Race, Religion, Politics, Mental Disorders, Sexual Harrassment, and Excessive Negativity. I can then make an effort not to speak about those topics in public. I just edit them out.

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What's with all the needing to be normal? Why do so many people insist on it?
It's important to be yourself, but it is also important to wear a mask when it would be appropriate to do so. This allows you to more easily obtain employment, promotions, and can mitigate being lonely if those three things are something you value.



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18 Sep 2016, 3:50 pm

"Do crazy people realise they're crazy?"

The crazy people who don't realise they're crazy will probably end up locked away.

The crazy people who do realise they're crazy know that they will be locked away if they reveal too much about themselves.

There are crazy people everywhere living under a socially acceptable veneer of Mr. or Mrs. Boooooring

For instance...

There's a "joke" that revolves around me at one of my workplaces. We all laugh about it because it would be "crazy" if the joke was actually true, but, I'm Mr. Boooooring, so of course it can't be true and it's just a "crazy" joke...right?

Sometimes, crazy people can hide in plain sight.



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18 Sep 2016, 4:06 pm

Incendax wrote:
smudge wrote:
I blurt things out to people. It is ingrained in me.

How do those who hold back...manage? How do you do it?
I normally do not understand the specific things that make people angry, but I can categorize topics that tend to make people angry or uncomfortable: Race, Religion, Politics, Mental Disorders, Sexual Harrassment, and Excessive Negativity. I can then make an effort not to speak about those topics in public. I just edit them out.


Do you think that the topic of mental disorders especially makes people uncomfortable?


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18 Sep 2016, 4:20 pm

Qimera wrote:
"Do crazy people realise they're crazy?"

The crazy people who don't realise they're crazy will probably end up locked away.

The crazy people who do realise they're crazy know that they will be locked away if they reveal too much about themselves.

There are crazy people everywhere living under a socially acceptable veneer of Mr. or Mrs. Boooooring

For instance...

There's a "joke" that revolves around me at one of my workplaces. We all laugh about it because it would be "crazy" if the joke was actually true, but, I'm Mr. Boooooring, so of course it can't be true and it's just a "crazy" joke...right?

Sometimes, crazy people can hide in plain sight.


Very good point.

..And so from that, I would assume the worst, as in dangerously crazy would hide it, or at least try to. Maybe that's a big black 'n white assumption on my part though.

I think my sister is one of those. A deep, scary anger inside of her.


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18 Sep 2016, 6:54 pm

smudge wrote:
Do you think that the topic of mental disorders especially makes people uncomfortable?
Sometimes they do not care. Sometimes they are very supportive. Sometimes they are fascinated by it and want to know more. Sometimes they are scared by poor media portrayals. Sometimes they are ignorant about your specific condition and assume you are unpredictable. Sometimes they have been hurt in the past by someone with a mental disorder and lump you in with them. Sometimes they are jaded by friends who play the "I'm crazier than you" game.

So in general? You have almost nothing to gain from early disclosure. Especially not employers.

But people you know and trust outside of work should be fine with it.



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19 Sep 2016, 1:38 pm

I KNOW I'm crazy; does that make me sane?

If you read "Catch 22," you'll find somebody who experienced that paradox.



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20 Sep 2016, 5:38 am

kraftiekortie wrote:
I KNOW I'm crazy; does that make me sane?
Generally no. There are thousands of people every year who are declared 'Not a danger to themselves or others' and are perfectly aware of their situation. Then there are the ones who ARE a danger to themselves and others, and they still make the terrible choice to get off their meds.

One of my best friends hated the way his meds made him feel. Always a little bit sick to his stomach. He had told doctors and there was literally nothing they could do about it but give him anti-nausea meds. He knew his diagnosis. Knew the consequences. But he stopped taking his meds anyway so he could not feel nauseous for a couple of days.

Two weeks later the schizophrenia drives him to violently assaulting his family and leaves him in a puddle of his own blood. He survived. His family left him. All because he didn't want to feel nausea for a little while.