What is the benefit of having children

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20 Sep 2016, 1:29 am

It's great cover for buying and playing with toys again.



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20 Sep 2016, 1:37 am

TomS wrote:
It's great cover for buying and playing with toys again.

Amen :lol:


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20 Sep 2016, 2:32 am

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I like the different points of view. So basically there are two types of parents: the first ones are the ones that have kids so they can give (love) to them. The second types have children in order to get something ( that is missing in them) from this kids.

And most agree that the first category is the best?

My question now is: what is the benefit of having a child and giving ( love) so much to it. Why not give all this things to yourself and/or your partner/familie/friends/...?


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There's something unique that I can't really describe about the way you can love a child, especially when they're very small. And for many people it can be the only way to experience unconditional love. You would put their needs and happiness first without even thinking about it and this type of selfless love seems to be quite rare between adults - one way or another you always get something out of it if you know what I mean. Sorry, I'm not being very articulate about this, it's really hard to describe.


Again, Bender has possibly said the same. But it's a different kind of love and not one that you can 'choose', I think. It either happens or it doesn't.

In the instant my daughter was born, I begged my husband to go and spend time with her even though she was surrounded by medical professionals and I was lying on a bed in a serious condition. When I first got the chance to hold her, I knew immediately that if someone said: "I can let you go, but you will never have any contact with your daughter again. Or, I can leave you in agonising pain for the rest of your life, and you can have one more second with your daughter", I would choose the latter. And the same still stands today. I'd do anything for her happiness and love her unconditionally.

I love my husband so, so much, but it is never going to be as deep or unconditional as my love for my child, and I know that he would say the same about me. If I ever had to leave him to protect her, I'd do it in a heartbeat. That's sad, but true. And again, I know that the same applies the other way.

She's been on this planet for nearly two years now, and I still feel like my heart will explode/melt every time I look at her. I still savour every single bit of physical contact - just the chance to touch her arm, never mind hug or kiss - as the most precious moment every to exist.

It's a love that's more like electricity, like it's actually built into your body physically and can affect everything about you.

Even before having a child and expecting the most unconditional love, I could never have imagined how it actually felt. It's something that you have to have a child to feel, I think.

The love I feel for my husband is intense, but it is nothing like the same as the love of a parent for a child.



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20 Sep 2016, 2:41 am

Well, I will probably never experience any of this.



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20 Sep 2016, 3:00 am

As the world changes, more and more families will depend on the welfare state and many working professionals are already not having children as a result of debt and the economic landscape. Land is cheaper in America than any major European or East Asian city, I suspect more people are in a position to raise a family in the United States.

You can find sentimental value without having a child, building or creating something can give you a sense of reward.



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20 Sep 2016, 3:11 am

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Actually I know quite a few couples who decided not to have children. They aren't selfish, heartless monsters, but people who made an informed and as far as I can tell right decision for themselves. None of them regrets it and they are generous, creative people who will leave a mark, one probably more significant that passing on their genes. I think this is becoming a more socially acceptable decision these days.


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20 Sep 2016, 3:23 am

the children of the future are fortunate I was never their father.



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20 Sep 2016, 3:25 am

BenderRodriguez wrote:
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Actually I know quite a few couples who decided not to have children. They aren't selfish, heartless monsters, but people who made an informed and as far as I can tell right decision for themselves. None of them regrets it and they are generous, creative people who will leave a mark, one probably more significant that passing on their genes. I think this is becoming a more socially acceptable decision these days.


Absolutely. As much as parenting was right for me, I will never understand why people are always asked when they are having children as if it's supposed to happen. There are many other valid and, I would imagine, equally fulfilling life choices for the right people.

Lots of people like to travel. Even just enjoying time at home without the responsibility as a child might be just as fulfilling and enjoyable - even better, for some people!

But then, people want a say with whatever. As soon as my first was born, people were asking 'When do you think you'll be having another, then?'. And it hasn't stopped.

Another friend has a boy and girl and wants another, and is being asked 'Why, when you already have one as each?' as though one boy and one girl is the ultimate goal.

People like their say.



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20 Sep 2016, 3:28 am

BenderRodriguez wrote:
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Actually I know quite a few couples who decided not to have children. They aren't selfish, heartless monsters, but people who made an informed and as far as I can tell right decision for themselves. None of them regrets it and they are generous, creative people who will leave a mark, one probably more significant that passing on their genes. I think this is becoming a more socially acceptable decision these days.


Of course, I am not disputing that it is a worldwide phenomenon. Many people as a choosing not to have children for a number of reasons, I think it will continue to become more and more society acceptable in the future.



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20 Sep 2016, 7:38 am

I have zero interest in having children so I honestly can't think of a single benefit of having kids (that I would consider a benefit personally). I can think of a lot of negatives of having children though.


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20 Sep 2016, 9:39 am

The world is overpopulated, at least regarding population vs. available recourses.

Fortunately the statistics are saying that the birth rate in many countries and places, from most of Europe to the U.S. and Japan, have declining birth rates and they're all at an all time low in these places.

Unfortunately, over-population isn't actually a major issue in these countries, but more-so places such as India, China, etc. and their populations aren't shrinking.

Besides, the world's recourses will never be equally distributed.

For stuff's sake, the 62 richest people in the world have more money than half the people on Earth combined.

https://www.theguardian.com/business/20 ... n-combined

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Oxfam said that the wealth of the poorest 50% dropped by 41% between 2010 and 2015, despite an increase in the global population of 400m. In the same period, the wealth of the richest 62 people increased by $500bn (£350bn) to $1.76tn.



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21 Sep 2016, 6:41 am

Outrider wrote:
For stuff's sake, the 62 richest people in the world have more money than half the people on Earth combined.
https://www.theguardian.com/business/20 ... n-combined
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Oxfam said that the wealth of the poorest 50% dropped by 41% between 2010 and 2015, despite an increase in the global population of 400m. In the same period, the wealth of the richest 62 people increased by $500bn (£350bn) to $1.76tn.

that's because they figured out how to steal it from the rest of us in countless ways. time for the pitchforks.



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21 Sep 2016, 8:06 am

Realising that kids are amazing and Individual, even when they came from you. They aren't possessions or clones, but very unique individuals that you are charged with guiding through life for a bit.



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21 Sep 2016, 4:33 pm

all but a lucky gifted and strong few of kids are truly resilient, children in general are so easily damaged by life.



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24 Sep 2016, 1:05 am

In my personal opinion, there isn't one. I can't see how someone is better off from having them. Maybe I just don't understand.



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24 Sep 2016, 1:11 am

coming from a person who has lost his parents, I can say that AFAIC, more kinfolk=better. kids grow up and become interesting new human beings. they can provide comfort. something I will never experience this go-round but hopefully i'll make up for it in the next life.