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04 Oct 2016, 6:07 am

I'd perhaps modify his message something like this:

If you don't or can't find a partner don't buy into the notion that you've failed at some prime preordained purpose in life, ie. procreating, and that the only thing left is a drop off a highway bridge or sitting in warm tub, etc. etc.. If there's no purpose in life there's no purpose. If nature has brought forth a situation where we procreate to continue the race who cares, there's no moral or religious obligation to it and everyone ceases to exist when they die no one will remember what they did, be rewarded for having procreated, or be punished by some perverse logic for being what they had no choice but to be. When all's said and done if there's no possibility of finding a partner and you're reasonably certain that you'll be single for the rest of your life whether you want to or not it becomes high time to through off any sense of what you don't or can't have being all there is - you don't do it to make some schmuck on an internet forum who told you to do it happy, you do it for the sake of your own sanity.


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04 Oct 2016, 7:08 am

Love lifts us where we belong
All we need is love!

I am a hopeless romantic :heart:

As far as autism goes love is the last frontier imho.



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04 Oct 2016, 7:10 am

I'm glad you're euphoric---was the romance good?



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04 Oct 2016, 7:12 am

Yeah and don't forget the baby powder smell :lol:



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04 Oct 2016, 7:31 am

Never shall I forget that!

It's so lovely on a woman!



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04 Oct 2016, 8:25 am

A 'higher purpose' of owning a bunch of cats without the ability to connect with other people, how lucky you are to be alive! Your life means just as much as theirs even tho nobody actually believes that. You're doomed to wallow in misery but you must serve others to have purpose!

I would say as a social species that relationships and the family are what life is all about, your hobbies and job are on a much lower plain of importance. Not everybody is capable of having all this success in other areas if you're deficient in one area then it probably effects all the others too. Ostracization in other social species I think leads to death doesn't it?



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04 Oct 2016, 9:05 am

I think if it weren't for love autism would have died out a loooong time ago ;)



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04 Oct 2016, 9:09 am

That's a good way of looking at it.

No love. No people. Hence, no autism.



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04 Oct 2016, 10:08 am

I apologize for the cynicism but is love the reason why our life expectancy is something like 16 years less than those not on the spectrum?



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04 Oct 2016, 10:13 am

I would bet that most of those "16 years" can be attributed to people with more severe autism, and other syndromal disorders, dying relatively young owing to the "other syndromal disorder."

I don't believe people with autism, in and of itself, have a reduced lifespan, per se.



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04 Oct 2016, 10:24 am

Those with cognitive disabilities + autism have a life expectancy under 40 according to the same study fwiw, those on the milder end of the spectrum have a suicide rate 9 times that of the general population because of greater awareness of their condition and inability to assimilate.

http://www.healthline.com/health-news/w ... ounger-age



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04 Oct 2016, 10:54 am

Even a suicide rate nine times that of the normal population would not yield a 16-year decrease in life expectancy.



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04 Oct 2016, 11:02 am

kraftiekortie wrote:
Even a suicide rate nine times that of the normal population would not yield a 16-year decrease in life expectancy.


the increased rate of epilepsy is also listed as another contributing factor, overall health is worse

i think it's proof positive that ASD is a serious disability and a health crisis that needs to be addressed



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04 Oct 2016, 11:23 am

Epilepsy occurs, mostly, amongst the more "severely" affected.

I agree that ASD's should be given proper attention.



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04 Oct 2016, 11:37 am

kraftiekortie wrote:
Epilepsy occurs, mostly, amongst the more "severely" affected.

I agree that ASD's should be given proper attention.


which is why they have a life expectancy under 40



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04 Oct 2016, 11:42 am

Although I don't have epilepsy, I was tested for it in an EEG test when I was about 6 years old. It was because I used to go so deeply into my own little world, apparently there's a form of epilepsy that appears that way (or something). Anyway, epilepsy shows random peaks in brainwaves, mine didn't show that, but they were all higher than normal. Apparently I had the brainwaves of a person 3 years younger. Interestingly, I also had a 3 year language delay.

I wonder if anyone has any opinions on that.


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