Should I stay or should I go?
Thanks for all the support everyone. I've had my head in knots. ![]()
Closet Genious wrote:
Extra bit of advice if the root problem really is the open arrangement:
Depending on how you've discussed the open relationship thing with him in the past, I think your main challenge is actually convincing him that you're suddenly okay with a closed one, which I myself am quite skeptical about judging from your posts here. And I predict he is going to be skeptical too.
You should emphasize the point that he is enough for you, and that he can trust you and feel safe, and hopefully have your intentions in line with that aswell.
Depending on how you've discussed the open relationship thing with him in the past, I think your main challenge is actually convincing him that you're suddenly okay with a closed one, which I myself am quite skeptical about judging from your posts here. And I predict he is going to be skeptical too.
You should emphasize the point that he is enough for you, and that he can trust you and feel safe, and hopefully have your intentions in line with that aswell.
I suppose the best way around this one is to be honest with him and explain that it is a compromise- but one I'm willing to make if it means I get to keep him and he is happy in our relationship. (?????) Maybe?? Maybe not???
I can't LIE.
But it is the truth that I'd rather have him than anybody else.
I've actually been making him a fabric dead bird as a joke. You know how like cats bring in dead stuff when they love you? Yeah kind of like that.... also I've been reading loads of books on ways of communicating when one or both partners have AS and been applying those to our relationship. It has been working things are better. We still have our grumbles but they don't turn into full-blown arguments and shut-downs anymore. Result.
But yeah. Haven't told him about the books, or the dead bird, or that I love him. :/
I did tell him he's the best at cuddles and I keep telling him I miss him and want to spend time with him.
Jacoby wrote:
Could you possibly help him take advantage of the open aspect of the relationship? Maybe it could work then, it's not going to work unless it works for both of you.
I dunno I'm starting to think we have enough communication issues as it is since we are both AS. Obviously one needs a lot of communication in an open relationship to make it work. Maybe its a for the future thing but in addition at the moment I have a load of personal issues such as.... impending homeless-ness
I have enough on my plate. My initial reaction is: no! just no lets keep it simple please.
Copelandia wrote:
Thanks for all the support everyone. I've had my head in knots. 
I suppose the best way around this one is to be honest with him and explain that it is a compromise- but one I'm willing to make if it means I get to keep him and he is happy in our relationship. (?????) Maybe?? Maybe not???
I can't LIE.
But it is the truth that I'd rather have him than anybody else.
I've actually been making him a fabric dead bird as a joke. You know how like cats bring in dead stuff when they love you? Yeah kind of like that.... also I've been reading loads of books on ways of communicating when one or both partners have AS and been applying those to our relationship. It has been working things are better. We still have our grumbles but they don't turn into full-blown arguments and shut-downs anymore. Result.
But yeah. Haven't told him about the books, or the dead bird, or that I love him. :/
I did tell him he's the best at cuddles and I keep telling him I miss him and want to spend time with him.
I dunno I'm starting to think we have enough communication issues as it is since we are both AS. Obviously one needs a lot of communication in an open relationship to make it work. Maybe its a for the future thing but in addition at the moment I have a load of personal issues such as.... impending homeless-ness
I have enough on my plate. My initial reaction is: no! just no lets keep it simple please.
Closet Genious wrote:
Extra bit of advice if the root problem really is the open arrangement:
Depending on how you've discussed the open relationship thing with him in the past, I think your main challenge is actually convincing him that you're suddenly okay with a closed one, which I myself am quite skeptical about judging from your posts here. And I predict he is going to be skeptical too.
You should emphasize the point that he is enough for you, and that he can trust you and feel safe, and hopefully have your intentions in line with that aswell.
Depending on how you've discussed the open relationship thing with him in the past, I think your main challenge is actually convincing him that you're suddenly okay with a closed one, which I myself am quite skeptical about judging from your posts here. And I predict he is going to be skeptical too.
You should emphasize the point that he is enough for you, and that he can trust you and feel safe, and hopefully have your intentions in line with that aswell.
I suppose the best way around this one is to be honest with him and explain that it is a compromise- but one I'm willing to make if it means I get to keep him and he is happy in our relationship. (?????) Maybe?? Maybe not???
I can't LIE.
But it is the truth that I'd rather have him than anybody else.
I've actually been making him a fabric dead bird as a joke. You know how like cats bring in dead stuff when they love you? Yeah kind of like that.... also I've been reading loads of books on ways of communicating when one or both partners have AS and been applying those to our relationship. It has been working things are better. We still have our grumbles but they don't turn into full-blown arguments and shut-downs anymore. Result.
But yeah. Haven't told him about the books, or the dead bird, or that I love him. :/
I did tell him he's the best at cuddles and I keep telling him I miss him and want to spend time with him.
Jacoby wrote:
Could you possibly help him take advantage of the open aspect of the relationship? Maybe it could work then, it's not going to work unless it works for both of you.
I dunno I'm starting to think we have enough communication issues as it is since we are both AS. Obviously one needs a lot of communication in an open relationship to make it work. Maybe its a for the future thing but in addition at the moment I have a load of personal issues such as.... impending homeless-ness
I have enough on my plate. My initial reaction is: no! just no lets keep it simple please.
No, that's great. Being honest will reinforce the trust between you.
But look, monogamy is a compromise everyone.
Everything in life actually is a compromise in one way or the other.
Copelandia wrote:
He's said in the past 'he doesn't want a relationship' which is total BS because we have one- a relationship can be whatever the f**k two people want. I still don't understand wtf he really means exactly by this. (He said "I don't want to meet your parents and stuff.")
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A few weeks ago I discovered he was still using online dating sites, despite the fact we've been seeing each other for 6 months now. I'm not convinced by monogamy anyway but I asked him to change his status to 'in an open relationship' and weeks later he has not, yet he is still using these sites. >:(
I found this out today and I'm very upset and angry.
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A few weeks ago I discovered he was still using online dating sites, despite the fact we've been seeing each other for 6 months now. I'm not convinced by monogamy anyway but I asked him to change his status to 'in an open relationship' and weeks later he has not, yet he is still using these sites. >:(
I found this out today and I'm very upset and angry.
He said he doesn't want a relationship and he's looking for other women on online dating sites. I think those are pretty clear signs that you should move on and find someone else.
Copelandia wrote:
I hope it is mostly that he's not ok with an open relationship and it isn't because he isn't into me.
The first time we went out he was so so so into me, so its really odd how much the dynamic has changed since.
I'm seeing him tomorrow evening so we can talk then.
The first time we went out he was so so so into me, so its really odd how much the dynamic has changed since.
I'm seeing him tomorrow evening so we can talk then.
I disagree with Chronos, open relationships are very much long term for the most part as they depend on personal appreciation rather than social standing. I normally feel much the same as OP no matter the fact I'm generally just studying rather than meeting anyone. I have no idea what Facebook publically says about me & I hope it's not a sore point.
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cberg wrote:
Copelandia wrote:
I hope it is mostly that he's not ok with an open relationship and it isn't because he isn't into me.
The first time we went out he was so so so into me, so its really odd how much the dynamic has changed since.
I'm seeing him tomorrow evening so we can talk then.
The first time we went out he was so so so into me, so its really odd how much the dynamic has changed since.
I'm seeing him tomorrow evening so we can talk then.
I disagree with Chronos, open relationships are very much long term for the most part as they depend on personal appreciation rather than social standing. I normally feel much the same as OP no matter the fact I'm generally just studying rather than meeting anyone. I have no idea what Facebook publically says about me & I hope it's not a sore point.
I didn't say open relationships couldn't be long term, but I don't think this relationship has the makings of an open relationship. He said he didn't want to be in a relationship (with her), and went behind her back to find another one.
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Copelandia wrote:
Jacoby wrote:
Should you stay or should you go? That's your decision and being in an open relationship I guess gives you options to find what you need somewhere else.
Its true that it opens up my options to get some of the things I need but might be missing...
...I'd pick him over an open relationship any day.
So basically if I'm missing him I'm missing a lot.
(Friends are better than casual sex anyway.)
From the sound of it, it will very likely come down to having to choose him over having an open relationship or risk having no relationship with him. I mean you've had other boyfriends during this open relationship...has he had another girlfriend? if not that is another sign he's not that thrilled about the idea.
I wouldn't want an open relationship....it would be too much to deal with, could be the same way for him.
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For what it's worth all my relationships are equally strange at least & I'm thankful beyond words I'm not an absolute loner.
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"I fly through hyperspace, in my green computer interface"
-Gem Tos
cberg wrote:
For what it's worth all my relationships are equally strange at least & I'm thankful beyond words I'm not an absolute loner.
Thanks.
I'm now not so sure telling him I love him is going to make a difference.
If he isn't that into me, there's nothing I can do. :/
Thing is I *consistently* find myself in a situation where I like a guy and he just isn't into it. Half the time I don't even notice and getting dumped comes as a surprise.
So it is possible that this is the situation here, but its also possible since I'm so used to 'seeing' that scenario.... you know how sometimes people get prejudices and project them onto situations?
The net result is I just feel like I am broken and a romantic partner is gained through some elusive magic trick that I don't understand. How can some people find relationships so easily?! !
Maybe instead of telling him I love him, I need to tell him we need ditch the open relationship and make a proper bash of being together or I'm out. I can't cope with all this stress and the potential being homeless stress all at once.
I'm so worried if I tell him I love him he's going to run a mile.
(He's halfway out the door anyway.)
I'd say the tricky magical part is chilling out long enough to acquire routines. Websites are only websites, from what you've said I still mostly doubt this guy's dumped you.
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"Standing on a well-chilled cinder, we see the fading of the suns, and try to recall the vanished brilliance of the origin of the worlds."
-Georges Lemaitre
"I fly through hyperspace, in my green computer interface"
-Gem Tos
cberg wrote:
I'd say the tricky magical part is chilling out long enough to acquire routines. Websites are only websites, from what you've said I still mostly doubt this guy's dumped you.
Huh... interesting.
Well we had a chat, I rolled back on the intensity.
Simply asked him if he was happy- and said I was upset he was still advertising himself as single because it sent me the message that he was unhappy and was looking to leave the relationship. Said I wasn't happy being in an 'open' relationship anymore.
He said he wasn't looking to leave. He re-interated that part of the not seeing each other much/not talking so much is due to his job which requires unsociable working hours and lots of travel.
Things feel lighter and brighter now. I guess I should make more of an effort to communicate instead of wallowing/letting it build up in my head.
He remembered to call me when I asked, and he came to see a movie with me and some friends. He met my friends!
Some routine of some kind would be nice so I know what to expect a bit more. I'd really like to take a few days away with him somewhere but its difficult trying to get him to agree to taking time off work. (Despite the fact he moans about feeling overworked he won't take time off for himself...)
I hope everyone meets with similar positives in the future.
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-Georges Lemaitre
"I fly through hyperspace, in my green computer interface"
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