Whys it have to not be ok to ask if a woman likes you?

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28 Jul 2018, 10:44 am

You can ask her, all the guys i've dated have eventually asked me how I feel about them it's only natural and you can ask even if you're not dating yet depending on how well you know each other.

Of course it's okay to ask, that's how you find out if you're not just wasting your time with a person and especially if you're dating it's a normal thing to ask eventually so you know that you're not just wasting your time.



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28 Jul 2018, 11:15 am

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it can be true but i always thought humans had already got over this biological survival thing and could just be nice to each other.


Why would they do that? Yeah, yeah, it's nice to experience the result of collectively maintaining a nice society, but that's not how evolution works. There's no incentive for an individual to be nice if they're better off taking advantage of someone else. Niceness exists in an equilibrium with abuse, and can never become universal, because the more people are nice the more time, the easier and more profitable it is for an individual to benefit from their niceness without repaying them in kind, and to deceive or openly attack them, since they're used to being treated nicely and don't see it coming.

You may say there are people who don't respond to those incentives, but that only means their strategy is suboptimal and they'll be outbred by those more in line with evolutionary pressures, so the latter's behavior will prevail. People will tend to be selectively nice, but this doesn't mean they need to acknowledge it, even to themselves—it'll only become usual to acknowledge it if and when this is itself beneficial in the fight for survival. A good, time-tested way not to acknowledge selective niceness is to develop complex moral codes, possibly based on religion to imbue them with authority, which tell you when and how to be nasty, and to whom, and why this is the right thing to do.

There's no "getting over" natural selection or the fight for survival. Try to escape them at your own peril.


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28 Jul 2018, 1:11 pm

It's unnecessary to ask her at this moment - it may make you look desperate or weak , your goal should be focused on frequently dating her - that's all.



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28 Jul 2018, 3:54 pm

Luhluhluh wrote:
Why don't you ask her to do stuff that does not involve paying for things? Do stuff that's free and actually get to know each other and you'll get a better idea.
This. It's ok to pay on the first date, but after that things should be more even.

Do you think she's nice? Do you fancy her?



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28 Jul 2018, 4:00 pm

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With such precise numbers established in advance, gotta wonder:
— Is she, before even knowing whom she'll date, sure she won't accidentally want to have sex with him on the sixth date or earlier?
— In the event that she does want to have sex with him too early, does she dutifully suppress her desire for the higher goal of ... what exactly? Not satisfying him? Or more like getting as many rides and drinks as possible at his expense, possibly having sex on the side with someone else, before ditching him and repeating the procedure with the next mark?

Might as well advertise, "Take me on a chaste, nice and slow trip around the world, entirely at your expense, and then I may or may not have sex with you or want anything to do with you anymore".
The 6th date + before sex thing translates as 'I want a boyfriend, not a one night stand'.



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28 Jul 2018, 4:44 pm

fluffysaurus wrote:
Spiderpig wrote:
With such precise numbers established in advance, gotta wonder:
— Is she, before even knowing whom she'll date, sure she won't accidentally want to have sex with him on the sixth date or earlier?
— In the event that she does want to have sex with him too early, does she dutifully suppress her desire for the higher goal of ... what exactly? Not satisfying him? Or more like getting as many rides and drinks as possible at his expense, possibly having sex on the side with someone else, before ditching him and repeating the procedure with the next mark?

Might as well advertise, "Take me on a chaste, nice and slow trip around the world, entirely at your expense, and then I may or may not have sex with you or want anything to do with you anymore".
The 6th date + before sex thing translates as 'I want a boyfriend, not a one night stand'.


[Sarcasm]

But women who won't put out are clearly using men!! !

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28 Jul 2018, 5:25 pm

If you don't have the courage to ask her if she likes you, then just ask her out on a date. If she says 'yes', then she likes you; and if she says 'no' then she doesn't. It's as simple as that.

Note that asking her why she says 'no' or asking her out more than once may get you labelled as a creep and a loser.


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28 Jul 2018, 6:39 pm

fluffysaurus wrote:
Spiderpig wrote:
With such precise numbers established in advance, gotta wonder:
— Is she, before even knowing whom she'll date, sure she won't accidentally want to have sex with him on the sixth date or earlier?
— In the event that she does want to have sex with him too early, does she dutifully suppress her desire for the higher goal of ... what exactly? Not satisfying him? Or more like getting as many rides and drinks as possible at his expense, possibly having sex on the side with someone else, before ditching him and repeating the procedure with the next mark?

Might as well advertise, "Take me on a chaste, nice and slow trip around the world, entirely at your expense, and then I may or may not have sex with you or want anything to do with you anymore".
The 6th date + before sex thing translates as 'I want a boyfriend, not a one night stand'.


My questions stand.


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28 Jul 2018, 6:47 pm

kraftiekortie wrote:
Do you actually like her?

What are your feelings towards her?

I probably wouldn’t express that sort of feeling until your body tells you that you desire her.

And if you do tell her, just say you enjoy her company, and that you want to continue to see her. Don’t “try” anything until the 7th date (at least).


Yes I think

I find her attractive and enjoy spending time with her just wish we talked more on dates and through text between dates. When I messaged women in the past we’d talk a lot all day for weeks but we never dated.

Body telling I desire her? What’s that mean?



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28 Jul 2018, 6:48 pm

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If you don't have the courage to ask her if she likes you, then just ask her out on a date. If she says 'yes', then she likes you; and if she says 'no' then she doesn't. It's as simple as that.

Note that asking her why she says 'no' or asking her out more than once may get you labelled as a creep and a loser.

We’ve been on 2 dates so far with maybe 3rd this coming week.



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28 Jul 2018, 6:51 pm

Luhluhluh wrote:
Why don't you ask her to do stuff that does not involve paying for things? Do stuff that's free and actually get to know each other and you'll get a better idea.

Sadly it’s too hot for any such things
We were going for a walk but it was 100 out so we put it off until next week but now next week is going be 100 too so I suggested a movie so we don’t go 2 weeks between dates
She got overheated on our first date after min golf and it was 80ish so walk in 100 seems no go.



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28 Jul 2018, 6:52 pm

sly279 wrote:
Fnord wrote:
If you don't have the courage to ask her if she likes you, then just ask her out on a date. If she says 'yes', then she likes you; and if she says 'no' then she doesn't. It's as simple as that. Note that asking her why she says 'no' or asking her out more than once may get you labelled as a creep and a loser.
We’ve been on 2 dates so far with maybe 3rd this coming week.
Well, then there you go! She's going out with you, so she likes you.


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28 Jul 2018, 6:53 pm

Spiderpig wrote:
fluffysaurus wrote:
Spiderpig wrote:
With such precise numbers established in advance, gotta wonder:
— Is she, before even knowing whom she'll date, sure she won't accidentally want to have sex with him on the sixth date or earlier?
— In the event that she does want to have sex with him too early, does she dutifully suppress her desire for the higher goal of ... what exactly? Not satisfying him? Or more like getting as many rides and drinks as possible at his expense, possibly having sex on the side with someone else, before ditching him and repeating the procedure with the next mark?

Might as well advertise, "Take me on a chaste, nice and slow trip around the world, entirely at your expense, and then I may or may not have sex with you or want anything to do with you anymore".
The 6th date + before sex thing translates as 'I want a boyfriend, not a one night stand'.


My questions stand.


It’s a OkCupid questionnaire answer
How many dates would you need before having sex?
She chose 6+
I chose 2-3



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28 Jul 2018, 6:55 pm

Fnord wrote:
sly279 wrote:
Fnord wrote:
If you don't have the courage to ask her if she likes you, then just ask her out on a date. If she says 'yes', then she likes you; and if she says 'no' then she doesn't. It's as simple as that. Note that asking her why she says 'no' or asking her out more than once may get you labelled as a creep and a loser.
We’ve been on 2 dates so far with maybe 3rd this coming week.
Well, then there you go! She's going out with you, so she likes you.


I dont know I feel if she liked me she’d talk more to me. That with some women using guys for acrivies makes e unsure
The lady at work I talked about plus I had one lady try to use me to get free meals years ago. That lady didn’t talk much besides making hints to buy her food.



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28 Jul 2018, 6:59 pm

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fluffysaurus wrote:
Spiderpig wrote:
With such precise numbers established in advance, gotta wonder:
— Is she, before even knowing whom she'll date, sure she won't accidentally want to have sex with him on the sixth date or earlier?
— In the event that she does want to have sex with him too early, does she dutifully suppress her desire for the higher goal of ... what exactly? Not satisfying him? Or more like getting as many rides and drinks as possible at his expense, possibly having sex on the side with someone else, before ditching him and repeating the procedure with the next mark?

Might as well advertise, "Take me on a chaste, nice and slow trip around the world, entirely at your expense, and then I may or may not have sex with you or want anything to do with you anymore".
The 6th date + before sex thing translates as 'I want a boyfriend, not a one night stand'.


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But women who won't put out are clearly using men!! !

[/Sarcasm]


I certainly don’t support that. Some women just want to wait longer or wait until marriage or may have no sex drive or interest.
That has nothing to do with my concern if if she likes me or not was just more a side comment that’d I’d like some sexual talk not even sex. I’m not sure I will want sex I’m very emotional about it so I’d be while.
We just don’t talk as much as other girls did with me. I seem to initiate most conversations we do have.
So I’m not sure



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28 Jul 2018, 7:00 pm

What I mean: does your body tell you that you desire to caress her and make love to her?