Break-ups
CockneyRebel
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If it's ok that I ask, how old were you when you met the first one?
We went through school together, so I first met her when I was 11, last saw her when I was 19. Haven't felt that strongly about anybody since, despite being married. I know it's stupid but then again it used to be pretty common for people to meet somebody in their teens who they'd then spend the rest of the life with. I can't help but regret giving up on her.
The overwhelming majority of my suffering is self-inflicted; I cling tenaciously to the things I like; desperately wanting them to last forever, or I desperately resist the things I dislike; afraid that they will last forever. Nothing lasts forever.
When I demand that the universe submit to my desires, I suffer, because it doesn't, and never will.
To the extent that I let go of my clinging and aversion and accept things just as they are, not as I wish them to be, my suffering is much less.
Relationships, like everything else, are dynamic, not static. As such, nothing lasts forever. Everything has a beginning, a middle, and an end. Everything arises because of the causes and conditions that preceded it; everything fades away when these causes and conditions no longer hold. Relationships, like lovers themselves, are living things; they require constant nurturing and cultivation to thrive and whither with abuse and neglect. In retrospect, I actively contributed to many of the causes and conditions which gave rise to the relationships in my life; I also actively contributed to several relationships withering and dying, too. Sadly, the only way to learn to be a good gardener is to kill a lot of plants (and I am not what anyone would call a 'quick study').
Nothing lasts forever. There are causes and conditions beyond my control. Humans are dynamic beings; constantly growing and changing in the process. Sometimes, we grow together when our needs and desires converge. Sometimes, our needs and desires diverge, and we grow apart. That is the nature of living things; no need for resentment or blame. All relationships end. They may leave you today of their own volition; they may leave you after 70 years of marriage when they simply stop breathing, but sooner or later, all relationships end. That's what makes them so terribly precious in this present moment.
When I can accept this impermanence, I suffer less, and value what I temporarily have much more.
Thank you for writing this, Piobaire! What an eloquent and meaningful response. Would you mind if I shared it with someone who really needs these words?
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While I've never been in a relationship exactly, I have been very close to someone, to the point of hanging out all of the time, talking all day and kissing/cuddling. You could argue it was a relationship, but it wasn't 'official' and she said afterwards that didn't see it as such, so I can't really either. When that ended (which I won't go into detail about), it hurt, badly, more than I can even begin to express. It sounds ridiculous, but I was still thinking about her now and then, and hurting (it was dulled though, because of the length of time) almost two years later.
This is why I'm terrified of getting attached to someone again, but... I realised, what's the point in holding myself back in fear of going through that pain, if I'm just going to keep going through it anyway if I don't? I might as well take the risk of putting myself out there and trying to connect with someone again, because if it doesn't work, I'm back to square one, hurting, and if it does work, well... I haven't found out what that feels like yet. I'm talking to someone now that I really like, and things seem to be going well ![]()
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The overwhelming majority of my suffering is self-inflicted; I cling tenaciously to the things I like; desperately wanting them to last forever, or I desperately resist the things I dislike; afraid that they will last forever. Nothing lasts forever.
When I demand that the universe submit to my desires, I suffer, because it doesn't, and never will.
To the extent that I let go of my clinging and aversion and accept things just as they are, not as I wish them to be, my suffering is much less.
Relationships, like everything else, are dynamic, not static. As such, nothing lasts forever. Everything has a beginning, a middle, and an end. Everything arises because of the causes and conditions that preceded it; everything fades away when these causes and conditions no longer hold. Relationships, like lovers themselves, are living things; they require constant nurturing and cultivation to thrive and whither with abuse and neglect. In retrospect, I actively contributed to many of the causes and conditions which gave rise to the relationships in my life; I also actively contributed to several relationships withering and dying, too. Sadly, the only way to learn to be a good gardener is to kill a lot of plants (and I am not what anyone would call a 'quick study').
Nothing lasts forever. There are causes and conditions beyond my control. Humans are dynamic beings; constantly growing and changing in the process. Sometimes, we grow together when our needs and desires converge. Sometimes, our needs and desires diverge, and we grow apart. That is the nature of living things; no need for resentment or blame. All relationships end. They may leave you today of their own volition; they may leave you after 70 years of marriage when they simply stop breathing, but sooner or later, all relationships end. That's what makes them so terribly precious in this present moment.
When I can accept this impermanence, I suffer less, and value what I temporarily have much more.
@Piobaire Thank you for this. I really needed to read this today.
The overwhelming majority of my suffering is self-inflicted; I cling tenaciously to the things I like; desperately wanting them to last forever, or I desperately resist the things I dislike; afraid that they will last forever. Nothing lasts forever.
When I demand that the universe submit to my desires, I suffer, because it doesn't, and never will.
To the extent that I let go of my clinging and aversion and accept things just as they are, not as I wish them to be, my suffering is much less.
Relationships, like everything else, are dynamic, not static. As such, nothing lasts forever. Everything has a beginning, a middle, and an end. Everything arises because of the causes and conditions that preceded it; everything fades away when these causes and conditions no longer hold. Relationships, like lovers themselves, are living things; they require constant nurturing and cultivation to thrive and whither with abuse and neglect. In retrospect, I actively contributed to many of the causes and conditions which gave rise to the relationships in my life; I also actively contributed to several relationships withering and dying, too. Sadly, the only way to learn to be a good gardener is to kill a lot of plants (and I am not what anyone would call a 'quick study').
Nothing lasts forever. There are causes and conditions beyond my control. Humans are dynamic beings; constantly growing and changing in the process. Sometimes, we grow together when our needs and desires converge. Sometimes, our needs and desires diverge, and we grow apart. That is the nature of living things; no need for resentment or blame. All relationships end. They may leave you today of their own volition; they may leave you after 70 years of marriage when they simply stop breathing, but sooner or later, all relationships end. That's what makes them so terribly precious in this present moment.
When I can accept this impermanence, I suffer less, and value what I temporarily have much more.
I echo the others. This was beautifully written and very helpful.
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