I know awesome women but I'm out of touch.

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So do I. All I'm allowed to do is overthink, it's all I ever get paid for & it's most of what people expect of me when they meet me.

Meditation is the only way I ever get any sleep.

Why? Dog are like dogs. Humans like humans.


How many beautiful girls did?


Your choice. Only 40% of men have children but 80% of women do. Most attractive women are quite calculating towards men. It's onto you being more attractive then other guys or not. Brain doesn't really count for this and as long as you don't use it it also doesn't helps you at all.

What counts? Care about yourself looking always a bit attractive and not to average. Be a bit self-confident towards women. Be fun. Be a bit provocative. Get in touch once she seems to like you a bit. Have fun with her.

I guess the number exceeds five by this point. For one thing, who can blame them for being cautious with someone *me* who's been dabbling in hacking for almost two decades? I would be cautious too.

In what way are you suggesting my brain's been factored out? In a factual sense, self confidence is not exactly a problem of mine lately; I know quite a number of things most other guys don't learn in a lifetime. Social confidence is another story. I think part of the issue here is discerning when my ASD has finally become an everyday conversation.

In my experience friendly conversations with women can lead to some very good friendships with women but if you want something more I suggest you sign up for some dating sites.

I'm not interested in dating anyone I just met online. Not having a report is too stressful.

Real conversation on a dating site:

Her: What do you work?
Me: Software developer, I write web apps.
Her: So boring.
Me: Well, without this profession you wouldn’t have been chatting here right now.

Another example of this ugly stigmatization of developers. This was offensive really.

Yeah. It's really sad. Guys aren't the only reason there's so little female representation in technology.

Women insult their own intelligence when they demean these big intricate systems. Modern technology obviously would not exist without women. Technological literacy is something I need to teach everyone in my life about, period.

Software devs are people too.

How tremendously depressing that I should start another thread about that.

cberg, if you are that much out of touch with them then you don’t know really how much awesome they are (and much are not).

They're good people who know me & knowing me can't be all that easy so I'll stand by my thread's original idea. I'm not trying to fixate on the negative side of any friend of mine.

Maybe it's more accurate to say everyone is a mix of good & bad, but that sure doesn't exactly encourage anyone.



Look if I didn't focus on good things about women I know, how would a guy like myself still even be alive in the first place? I think I'm invoking the golden rule here, if women are going to treat geeks as subhuman, what kind of gentleman would I be to respond cynically?

Here's a shocker--guys that aren't geeks treat women who are geeks as subhuman too. It's not a men/women thing, it's a nerd/not nerd thing. Don't make everything about gender, that doesn't help you get out of this rut you're in.

Oh I wish gender weren't an issue too; I'm sure female engineers & hackers have a rough time of this as well. What I'm trying to say is that most women in my life represent a conspicuous absence from my "digital life". There's a fantastic connection between all of us until my friend's technological self-doubt becomes a communications breakdown. We're all just learning each other's language, hence my presence on WP. Another good reason is the astute women on here.

There has to be some context where everyone can enjoy some of this tech knowledge. Maybe along the lines of digital arts more than scientific & industrial stuff.

I really don't understand this resistance to talking about technology you describe encountering in women, I've never felt that way myself. I'm not the most tech-savvy person, but I dated a couple of "computer guys" when I was younger and we talked about it a lot and I ended up learning quite a bit from them. Now I know enough to maintain my own computer and do what I want to do online (like download music *totally legally*).

It doesn't just have to be women in the industry that you can potentially relate to, there are women out there who aren't techies themselves but are still open to talking and learning about it like I was when I was younger. You just need to find people who are open-minded and curious by nature.

I agree however I also need to find enjoyable ways of piquing anyone's curiosity. The struggles that affect my relationships with everyone are all part of the same whole.

I'm alright at making new friends I suppose but I take things slow with everyone because I don't want to ignore those who took the time our of our ridiculously busy lives to really get to know me.

I'm trying to be honest about my strengths & weaknesses in order to become more relatable as well as to help some friends relax.

Now to finish my homework & drive home across town. Here's to skipping rush hour! I hope that also works in romantic terms.

One of the ways that I bonded over tech with (and also learned some things from) my first "computer guy" boyfriend in college is that he taught me how to play an online roll-playing game (it was Diablo II--which ages me, I fear ) and then we networked our computers in our apartment so we could play with each other as well as with other people online. We spent so many hours playing that game together, I have a lot of fond memories of that time.

Maybe you could start a tradition of game night or something like that with your friends?

EDIT: I just remembered "The Secret Cow Level". I laughed so hard when we found that.

My love life is a secret level, if everyone chooses to see it as a game that is.

Hopefully I can do the same thing outdoors as you recommend video games for. I think we all need more of both.