Learning the rules of dating!

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I think those with no dating experience based on despising dating are the experts. It's natural they "can't get a date" simply because they don't want to participate in dating. Then, of course, you will conclude that if you don't date you cannot get into a relationship. That's so obviously wrong. After all, dating is a modern NT-cultural model, and people got together long before it was invented.

The things, society has changed. I've seen a change as I've got older.

It's more difficult to develop relationships the traditional ways. People just don't talk to each other or put themselves out there.

I know I'm getting blasted in my thread by the guys for not being forward enough, but in reality it's always me who makes the moves.

What I mean is I orchestrate the meet-ups. I'm not into jumping into dating. I like to find out about people in their natural surroundings before considering dating them.

I organise group activities, so at least if I don't end up with the guy I'm interested in, a few people get to have a nice time and I maybe make closer friendships with others in the group.

It really has helped me to make friends.

But I'm a rarety. I have to invite men into these groups otherwise they potter on with their own things and don't seem to reach out to make connections with others.

Society is too insular for me these days in the UK.

He talked to ONE woman. That's like doing anything once and concluding the method doesn't work based on just that experience. Hurt is right, it's the wild west and people are whimsical, emotional creatures, all different. But honestly this is partly just a matter of practicing over and over and trying w/women over and over. That's just how it works.

Your comment about insularity is even more true of the States. I'm not saying it's great in the UK, but we invented insularity here, especially American men. It's just what we do. Maybe that's why I hate American culture and society so much! lol

This is pretty much exactly what I do... at least we have friends.