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06 Jul 2019, 1:52 pm

Surely she doesn't expect you to become vegan too.

I only know one person who tried a vegan diet for a while, but didn't stick with it. Whilst doing the diet she didn't expect her husband to only eat vegan food, but he did enjoy the vegan dishes she prepared.

Maybe if you only eat vegan food when you're with her and get your animal protein quota in your own time.

Vegan food can be delicious. But I don't think I could live on it all the time.

I understand not wanting animals to suffer. I try and buy meat from approved suppliers. We have quality standards marks on food packaging in the UK. I can understand the idea that fish don't suffer as much. It seems that she doesn't think eating meat is wrong, but the way we mass produce it and how we treat livestock is wrong.

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06 Jul 2019, 1:54 pm

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Eating seafood makes her not vegan but it's not the point of the topic, I guess.

Get to know her better. Check how well you can communicate. Can you have good time together, also in non-sexual meaning? That would be a great indicator of possibly good match.

Does she insist on you changing your diet? Maybe you can tolerate and respect each other with the difference.

She doesn't object to my diet, but it's not simple as it sounds, like for example if we are sitting together how am I gonna order a steak to the table while I know she has strong sensitivity about this matter?

Can you discuss it?

Well, she did mention that her best friends do eat meat, but as you know, usually people tolerate stuff from friends that they won't from a SO.

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06 Jul 2019, 1:56 pm

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Yeah, anti-livestock meat would be a more accurate label than a Vegan; but you know most people aren't usually so 'strict' about label definitions as aspies do.

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06 Jul 2019, 2:04 pm

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Well, she did mention that her best friends do eat meat, but as you know, usually people tolerate stuff from friends that they won't from a SO.

This is true but if you were able to discuss this, you would likely be able to solve together other issues that always come over time in a long term relationship.
So, if you can respectfully discuss and figure out eating with each other, it would be a great sign of compatibility.

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06 Jul 2019, 2:09 pm

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:

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1. She has zero right to lecture you when she's eating other living creatures
2. In part response to another: I as a vegan am not sickened by you eating meat or keeping it in your fridge. I may not be happy, but it's your choice. There ARE militant vegans who will disagree vocally. I could not,however, be with a meat eating man who actively hunted.
3. If she's tolerant of your meat eating, then perhaps ask your self my previous speculation: are you just looking for a reason why this could not work

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06 Jul 2019, 2:15 pm

"I can understand the idea that fish don't suffer as much."

well, they suffocate to death out of the water. That's if they survive repeated clubbings to kill them. In places like Chinese restaurants, they are both clubbed (to "stun" them into nonresistance) and cut up while alive, after having been crammed into and unfed in an undersized tank with other aquatic species.

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06 Jul 2019, 2:17 pm

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To be frank, I love 'vegan' foods, after all I come from a Mediterranean country and a large portion of the Mediterranean cuisine are purely vegetarian, local Christians have invented over centuries pure-vegetarian versions of popular dishes for their fasting month and became part of of our cuisine as well.
But like you, I can't live a whole lifetime without meat.

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06 Jul 2019, 2:18 pm

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Fish do feel pain: https://www.smithsonianmag.com/science- ... 180967764/

And the more intelligent aquatic species like the octopus certainly feel real pain.

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06 Jul 2019, 2:22 pm

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:

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To be frank, I love 'vegan' foods, after all I come from a Mediterranean country and a large portion of the Mediterranean cuisine are purely vegetarian, local Christians have invented over centuries pure-vegetarian versions of popular dishes for their fasting month and these are parts of our cuisine as well.
But like you, I can't live a whole lifetime without meat.

Probably not readily available in the ME, but there are stunningly good meat substitutes. I've started eating "Beyond Meat" products. As a former meat eater, I was bowled over. Maybe some expat grocery stores carry them or they can be ordered via Amazon or the regional equivalent tho that's a long shot.

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06 Jul 2019, 2:24 pm

A militant vegan would be dreaming if he/she thought they would be compatible with an omnivore as you are. I'm guessing she would be tolerant of your diet.

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06 Jul 2019, 3:00 pm

She’s not a Vegan. She’s a part-vegetarian. She eats seafood.

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06 Jul 2019, 3:17 pm

Leaving aside the vegan/pescatarian nitpicking, as long as neither of you demands the other to change their diet, I don't see what the problem is.

If you really think she would be offended by your steak, you could order fish when you go out with her. Maybe just ask her directly about it. I've met quite a few people who make choices for ethical reasons but really aren't judgemental of other people's choices.

Plus, this sounds too good not to give it a chance. I mean, she already knows you're eating meat, if this was a deal-breaker for her, why date you at all?

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06 Jul 2019, 3:19 pm

BenderRodriguez wrote:

Leaving aside the vegan/pescatarian nitpicking, as long as neither of you demands the other to change their diet, I don't see what the problem is.

If you really think she would be offended by your steak, you could order fish when you go out with her. Maybe just ask her directly about it. I've met quite a few people who make choices for ethical reasons but really aren't judgemental of other people's choices.

Plus, this sounds too good not to give it a chance. I mean, she already knows you're eating meat, if this was a deal-breaker for her, why date you at all?

there you go

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06 Jul 2019, 3:24 pm

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Is this something brand spanking new? Because this hasn't been my experience unless you compare them with what MacDonalds calls "meat".

I've been a vegetarian for a while (not anymore) and avoided all substitutes due to the awful taste compared to fresh produce (don't' get me started on cheese). I love cooking and expanding my cooking options for vegetarian dishes was great fun

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06 Jul 2019, 3:32 pm

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Don't know- maybe a yr or two? The sausage initially grossed me out because it tasted so much like pork sausage and I hadn't eaten that in a long time. The hamburger smells like canned dog food when you cook it, I won't lie, but the taste is terrific and it has the texture of real burger. I was a veg for a long time- I became a vegan at a good time, as the non -soy options have multiplied.

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06 Jul 2019, 3:39 pm

If you like fish, then order fish when you are with her.

And you like some of that Vegan stuff.

Sounds like a winner to me—unless she gets on your butt about your diet.

I’m a meat-eater and agnostic. My wife doesn’t eat pork and is part-vegetarian during Lent. She’s a believer in God. She doesn’t get on my butt about it too much.

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