6th graders forced to dance when others ask

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16 Apr 2020, 4:16 am

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In a discussion about this article on Facebook a couple months back someone brought up the point that this is some serious rape culture s**t to start reaching 12 year old girls that they’re not allowed to say no.

I agree. Slippery slope.
Very true. I read somewhere that the guy the girl in the article had to dance with had made some sexual comment when he asked her to dance. I'm not sure if that really happened or of it's speculation but that's very troubling & very easily could happen to her or to other girls.

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Rejection is part of life, that they should learn.

I have a better alternative solution to them: no dancing classes in schools.

It is a niche activity and in school environment it makes the awkward one prone to resentment, mocking and bullying; and few humans a :) :( re natural in it anyway. So leave it out of school.
I agree. I never went to any but they seem like a popularity contest combined with a school pride event. At least my high-school had all their dances on Friday nights which of corse was a while after school hours had ended so no students were around school then except for those who decided to go to the dance. Also at my school only certain grade levels were allowed to go to certain dances.


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16 Apr 2020, 10:25 am

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
Rejection is part of life, that they should learn.

I have a better alternative solution to them: no dancing classes in schools.

It is a niche activity and in school environment it makes the awkward one prone to resentment, mocking and bullying; and few humans are natural in it anyway. So leave it out of school.


Of course most aren't natural at it, that's the point of the classes, to teach those that aren't natural borns. I think it's a quite a valuable thing to learn, with a lot of uses.


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16 Apr 2020, 11:23 am

The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
Rejection is part of life, that they should learn.

I have a better alternative solution to them: no dancing classes in schools.

It is a niche activity and in school environment it makes the awkward one prone to resentment, mocking and bullying; and few humans are natural in it anyway. So leave it out of school.


Our physical education classes only had a couple hours of “dance lessons,” during the entirety of public school. It’s not dance lessons. It’s school dances. They’re typically more of a High School thing than younger years and are held outside of school hours. DJ/band, gym converted to a dance floor etc. School dances have been a tradition for probably more than 100 years - my grandmother’s generation used to attend them. No sense in cancelling them and people not learning appropriate behaviour until after they leave public school at 18. Schools are supposed to teach kids life lessons and prepare them for the world. Let them dance. Let them also experience rejection and accept it respectfully.


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16 Apr 2020, 11:25 am

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Yeah, the article I read said the guy had a history of creeping out this girl and making her feel uncomfortable. No Way it’s acceptable to make her dance with him. Gross.


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16 Apr 2020, 2:54 pm

goldfish21 wrote:
In a discussion about this article on Facebook a couple months back someone brought up the point that this is some serious rape culture s**t to start reaching 12 year old girls that they’re not allowed to say no.

I agree. Slippery slope.


That was my first thought while reading this thread. I imagine even at 12 some boys were getting kicks out of watching someone else squirm.



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24 Apr 2020, 9:45 am

This seems like a well-intentioned but poorly thought out policy.

Calling back to when I was a kid, if you were unpopular or someone didn't like you, but the school forced them to dance with you when you asked? You'd probably be more unpopular. Kid would do so grudgingly, then loudly complain about it to all their friends. You'd probably see increased ostracism, not decreased ostracism.

Teachers/administrators can't artificially engineer social chemistry or acceptance like that. When will people learn this?


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28 Apr 2020, 5:14 pm

Whale_Tuune wrote:
This seems like a well-intentioned but poorly thought out policy.

Calling back to when I was a kid, if you were unpopular or someone didn't like you, but the school forced them to dance with you when you asked? You'd probably be more unpopular. Kid would do so grudgingly, then loudly complain about it to all their friends. You'd probably see increased ostracism, not decreased ostracism.

Teachers/administrators can't artificially engineer social chemistry or acceptance like that. When will people learn this?



I think you nailed it; it is a classic mistake.