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16 Jun 2020, 9:31 pm

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Even in relationships, I never felt like I "fit in" with my partner. I've done so much dating and I've been married and it was the closest thing I had, but still I felt alienated in an indefinable way.

How do you manage to be close with people and feel like you fit with them? I don't even know how to ask this or describe it. I never feel lonely but I usually feel like I'm in an entirely different universe and I don't know how to land my spaceship.


Guess the thing is that you have to be emotional close to others for this. But it's much harder for us then for most NTs because we are emotional different and we are thinking in very different ways and care quite different things than most NTs value.

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I don't really want to be stuck in space forever.

If it comes to me then you are allowed to drift by and dock on a bit.
http://www.airshipentertainment.com/buc ... e=20070111


Yup.

And,
Pretending to be an NT doesn't make us one,
In my particular case,
It damaged my personal development enormously until I realised I was "A Square Peg" trying to fit in a round hole, and changed my thinking.



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17 Jun 2020, 12:59 am

Pepe wrote:
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Pepe wrote:
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I also feel "emotionally detached," I am not autistic but have CPTSD and need much alone time. I do love people but I always seem to be in a separate energetic field, as if I am watching everyone else from a different dimension, aware of my separateness.My emotional attachment seems more superficial than others seem to have with each other. This has nothing to do with my depth of caring just my sense of belonging.


I was a little concerned I may have offended you with my anti NT attitude.
I am happy to see you are still here. :wink:

Do you also have NT websites where you can talk about your psychological difficulties?
We auties aren't bad people,
And I know your BF is an aspie,
But we are very different thinkers. :wink:


No, not offended. I am not on other NT forums. I have friends I talk to when I need to.
I came here to further my understanding of aspies, and you have all helped me to understand myself more as an added benefit.
I get your warped, perverse sense of humour Pepe, we're good.


Ouch!
That was a back-hander if ever I saw one. 8O

Rather,
My humour is steeped in intellectually fuelled satire,
The intelligent man's go-to for comedic social commentary. 8)


I don't appreciate satire, I don't like "mind games" either, I am a simple minded gal and no match for your intellect, you are a good guy, though I have no idea what you are on about most of the time Peps. My "warped and perverted humour" comment was of course intended to be humorous. Do you have any NT friends, besides me?


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17 Jun 2020, 7:35 am

Teach51 wrote:
Do you have any NT friends, besides me?


I have a number of people online that I consider friends.
All are aspie.

I'm surprised you consider me a friend,
With my hash view on NT society.

I never had a problem with your participation here.

The thing with friendships,
And particularly NT friendships,
Is that I won't let the relationship determine what I say, how I act and how I think, to any significant degree.
Relationships almost always mean unacceptible compromise,
And I am not prepared to be distracted from my personal growth and creative investigation.

I am a "Proper Aspie".
There are few of us around,
And I am fine with that,
Because it makes me more special,
Just like my mom said I was. <beam> :mrgreen:



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17 Jun 2020, 9:19 am

Pepe wrote:
Teach51 wrote:
Do you have any NT friends, besides me?


I have a number of people online that I consider friends.
All are aspie.

I'm surprised you consider me a friend,
With my hash view on NT society.

I never had a problem with your participation here.

The thing with friendships,
And particularly NT friendships,
Is that I won't let the relationship determine what I say, how I act and how I think, to any significant degree.
Relationships almost always mean unacceptible compromise,
And I am not prepared to be distracted from my personal growth and creative investigation.

I am a "Proper Aspie".
There are few of us around,
And I am fine with that,
Because it makes me more special,
Just like my mom said I was. <beam> :mrgreen:



Who wouldn't despair at the state of NT society? I know great NT's and aspies both, I don't have a template requirement of how people should think or behave nor expect them to modify themselves to please me. I know that when you throw $hit at NT's (which is a gross generalization and more than a little rude,) you are not aiming at me, and if I you are it is going way over my head and missing the target :D

All men and women are equal in my eyes, for some reason I love the aspie mind set though it does not always bring peace and happiness to the aspie him/herself.


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17 Jun 2020, 1:41 pm

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I bet you're always like "We're not in Kansas anymore" despite being always there.... how confusing.

You should get a pet and call it Toto.


I named my cat Chip, not Toto... missed opportunity. It would have been funny for a cat to be called Toto!


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17 Jun 2020, 4:40 pm

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I named my cat Chip, not Toto... missed opportunity. It would have been funny for a cat to be called Toto!

A cat Chip? Reminds somehow to Alf ... :twisted:


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17 Jun 2020, 6:29 pm

Teach51 wrote:
Pepe wrote:
Teach51 wrote:
Do you have any NT friends, besides me?


I have a number of people online that I consider friends.
All are aspie.

I'm surprised you consider me a friend,
With my hash view on NT society.

I never had a problem with your participation here.

The thing with friendships,
And particularly NT friendships,
Is that I won't let the relationship determine what I say, how I act and how I think, to any significant degree.
Relationships almost always mean unacceptible compromise,
And I am not prepared to be distracted from my personal growth and creative investigation.

I am a "Proper Aspie".
There are few of us around,
And I am fine with that,
Because it makes me more special,
Just like my mom said I was. <beam> :mrgreen:



Who wouldn't despair at the state of NT society? I know great NT's and aspies both, I don't have a template requirement of how people should think or behave nor expect them to modify themselves to please me. I know that when you throw $hit at NT's (which is a gross generalization and more than a little rude,) you are not aiming at me, and if I you are it is going way over my head and missing the target :D

All men and women are equal in my eyes, for some reason I love the aspie mind set though it does not always bring peace and happiness to the aspie him/herself.


:chin: Interested in trading up? :mrgreen:

BTW, does you bf visit this website? 8O



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17 Jun 2020, 6:32 pm

quite an extreme wrote:
martianprincess wrote:
I named my cat Chip, not Toto... missed opportunity. It would have been funny for a cat to be called Toto!

A cat Chip? Reminds somehow to Alf ... :twisted:


"Alf".
Well, that is a blast from the past. 8O
I think most of the young 'uns would know what you are talking about. :mrgreen:



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17 Jun 2020, 7:23 pm

quite an extreme wrote:
martianprincess wrote:
I named my cat Chip, not Toto... missed opportunity. It would have been funny for a cat to be called Toto!

A cat Chip? Reminds somehow to Alf ... :twisted:


Are you talking about the fuzzy alien thing, Alf? I used to watch that show! haha. My grandma had a stuffed animal of him in her house when I was a little kid. I thought it was cute.


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17 Jun 2020, 9:17 pm

martianprincess wrote:
quite an extreme wrote:
martianprincess wrote:
I named my cat Chip, not Toto... missed opportunity. It would have been funny for a cat to be called Toto!

A cat Chip? Reminds somehow to Alf ... :twisted:


Are you talking about the fuzzy alien thing, Alf? I used to watch that show! haha. My grandma had a stuffed animal of him in her house when I was a little kid. I thought it was cute.


Yeah, I didn't know Alf ate cats until I watched Teen Titans Go!


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18 Jun 2020, 12:44 am

Pepe wrote:
quite an extreme wrote:
martianprincess wrote:
I named my cat Chip, not Toto... missed opportunity. It would have been funny for a cat to be called Toto!

A cat Chip? Reminds somehow to Alf ... :twisted:


"Alf".
Well, that is a blast from the past. 8O
I think most of the young 'uns would know what you are talking about. :mrgreen:


NOT! :mrgreen:



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18 Jun 2020, 12:59 am

Pepe wrote:
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Pepe wrote:
Teach51 wrote:
Do you have any NT friends, besides me?


I have a number of people online that I consider friends.
All are aspie.

I'm surprised you consider me a friend,
With my hash view on NT society.

I never had a problem with your participation here.

The thing with friendships,
And particularly NT friendships,
Is that I won't let the relationship determine what I say, how I act and how I think, to any significant degree.
Relationships almost always mean unacceptible compromise,
And I am not prepared to be distracted from my personal growth and creative investigation.

I am a "Proper Aspie".
There are few of us around,
And I am fine with that,
Because it makes me more special,
Just like my mom said I was. <beam> :mrgreen:



Who wouldn't despair at the state of NT society? I know great NT's and aspies both, I don't have a template requirement of how people should think or behave nor expect them to modify themselves to please me. I know that when you throw $hit at NT's (which is a gross generalization and more than a little rude,) you are not aiming at me, and if I you are it is going way over my head and missing the target :D

All men and women are equal in my eyes, for some reason I love the aspie mind set though it does not always bring peace and happiness to the aspie him/herself.


:chin: Interested in trading up? :mrgreen:

BTW, does you bf visit this website? 8O


I sincerely hope he doesn't, being a red-headed teacher I should really have chosen a different avatar and name for the sake of anonymity :) . I haven't discussed this forum with him.


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18 Jun 2020, 1:34 am

martianprincess wrote:
The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
I bet you're always like "We're not in Kansas anymore" despite being always there.... how confusing.

You should get a pet and call it Toto.


I named my cat Chip, not Toto... missed opportunity. It would have been funny for a cat to be called Toto!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uPnfuczOWb8



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18 Jun 2020, 2:08 pm

martianprincess wrote:
quite an extreme wrote:
martianprincess wrote:
I named my cat Chip, not Toto... missed opportunity. It would have been funny for a cat to be called Toto!

A cat Chip? Reminds somehow to Alf ... :twisted:


Are you talking about the fuzzy alien thing, Alf? I used to watch that show! haha. My grandma had a stuffed animal of him in her house when I was a little kid. I thought it was cute.

Right. Alf was funny but sometimes he did want to eat cats. He always failed with this of course. :)


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18 Jun 2020, 9:46 pm

That a website for Aspies is called 'wrongplanet' should clue you in that many of us feel out of place.

It's absolutely OK and natural to look for a connection, but don't lose who and what you are for the sake of that connection. I made that mistake twice. Down that path lies pain and despair. Generally takes a year or two to climb back out of the rabbit hole. My son's rabbit finally kicked me out of the rabbit hole a while back, even if I do bring him lots of dandelion greens and hay every day.

Find who you are by yourself and work from there.



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18 Jun 2020, 10:08 pm

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I haven't discussed this forum with him.


This surprises me.