Would dating online really make a difference?

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01 Jan 2021, 10:39 pm

Online dating is a sausage fest.


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02 Jan 2021, 12:13 am

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I have been going out to bars and nightclubs since late 2013 and in those 7 years I have not managed to get a girlfriend or even a one night stand. Don’t get me wrong I have had some opportunities to hook up with women on nights out but in these situations the women expect me to make all the effort.

I am an average looking guy (about a 5 out of 10 in looks) so assuming if I was good looking or handsome enough the chances of me getting a date on a night out would be a lot higher. Back in 2013/2014 I was a little better looking though that I am at the moment......or at least that’s what I assume. :?

My parents and a few other people have said to me that if I want to find a relationship I should go online and not go to bars. But do you agree that trying to find a partner online would be just as hard as going out to nightclubs?


I have been going out to night clubs in my 20s, but I stopped because I realized I am very socially inept and not very good looking due to not working out. I never managed a hook up either from a night club, although 1-2 women offered it, but I drove them away by being too uncomfortable and acting very strange. I managed to dance with women a few times. Mostly, I ended up going to be around people who were having fun, because I craved it too, although couldn't participate when I got there. I would have felt bad if I had never tried, but I did not get that much out of it, although, it was a lot more than I had before - which was nothing.

The 1-2 hookups I did get were NOT through night clubs, but through social dance lessons and gatherings and meet up like gatherings like couchsurfing.

At this point in my life, I am 33 and feel like why bother? I got obese and barely ever move, eat junk food, have no energy, and work the night shift. I don't think I have any chance at dating or a hook up at this point, or even that much interest.

Getting a date or a gf or wife through nerdy non-sexualized social venues such as clubs, dance classes, meet ups, karate, yoga, gym, and church etc. is much more realistic for aspie type men. It is a common mistake to go where the very coolest people are having a lot of fun dating and doing sexualized stuff like travel groups and night clubs, but you will stand out among them and end up feeling left out. Many women avoid night clubs because they can't compete there either and the social atmosphere there is too demanding and high pressure.

If you can learn to cook, clean, budget money, exercise, dress up, stop watching porn, meditate and take care of yourself though, a gf might just magically appear as your energy level will change. Maybe that is a better avenue to try?



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02 Jan 2021, 12:27 am

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To hear women talk about it, online dating is full of complete dicks who like to share unsolicited pictures of their complete dicks. I guess if you can clear that low bar, you're a prince among online men...


It's because the average guys sending nice guy messages are invisible to these women. The women only notice popular and experienced guys and bad boys, the dick pic senders are the lowest of the low of the bad boys.



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08 Jan 2021, 1:19 am

Honestly, I wish aspies would try online more often.
As an aspie, I can say that forming a serious connection is much easier online because you have a chance to better express yourself without worrying about constant social interaction. I've never joined a dating site because I feel like they're full of people who are only looking for a one night's stand rather than a serious relationship. For myself, my relationship started out as online friendship and blossomed into something more over the course of getting to know him.
The only struggle is the long distance, preferably you'd want to be with someone who's at least in the same country as you otherwise it can get pretty pricy just to see them. But once you see that person for the first time, it's incredible! It's like meeting someone you've known forever and you can skip all the awkward parts because you know each other already. My relationship is wonderful, we've been together for three years now and we're no longer long distance.

My advice though, if you're going to try this always be honest and always communicate. These long distance things can go real sour real quick if you're suspicious of your partner for any reason. I can firmly say though, online relationships are easier to form but probably harder to keep unless you're very persistent/in love.



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08 Jan 2021, 1:22 am

rottingpetal wrote:
Honestly, I wish aspies would try online more often.
As an aspie, I can say that forming a serious connection is much easier online because you have a chance to better express yourself without worrying about constant social interaction. I've never joined a dating site because I feel like they're full of people who are only looking for a one night's stand rather than a serious relationship. For myself, my relationship started out as online friendship and blossomed into something more over the course of getting to know him.
The only struggle is the long distance, preferably you'd want to be with someone who's at least in the same country as you otherwise it can get pretty pricy just to see them. But once you see that person for the first time, it's incredible! It's like meeting someone you've known forever and you can skip all the awkward parts because you know each other already. My relationship is wonderful, we've been together for three years now and we're no longer long distance.

My advice though, if you're going to try this always be honest and always communicate. These long distance things can go real sour real quick if you're suspicious of your partner for any reason. I can firmly say though, online relationships are easier to form but probably harder to keep unless you're very persistent/in love.


I had an online 'girl friend' that I met on WP years ago actually, but she ended up calling me a jerk as did all of my friends and now I am friendless both online and in real life lol.. some people don't have the personality and intelligence for any kind of dating, even online dating.



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08 Jan 2021, 6:16 am

CockneyRebel wrote:
Online dating is a sausage fest.


You are funny. :mrgreen:



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08 Jan 2021, 6:26 am

rottingpetal wrote:
Honestly, I wish aspies would try online more often.
As an aspie, I can say that forming a serious connection is much easier online because you have a chance to better express yourself without worrying about constant social interaction.


Totally agreed.
I have been saying this for years.

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I've never joined a dating site because I feel like they're full of people who are only looking for a one night's stand rather than a serious relationship. For myself, my relationship started out as online friendship and blossomed into something more over the course of getting to know him.


Personally, I believe a forum form of communication is the best for us.

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The only struggle is the long distance, preferably you'd want to be with someone who's at least in the same country as you otherwise it can get pretty pricy just to see them. But once you see that person for the first time, it's incredible! It's like meeting someone you've known forever and you can skip all the awkward parts because you know each other already. My relationship is wonderful, we've been together for three years now and we're no longer long distance.


Its rare, but it does happen.

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My advice though, if you're going to try this always be honest and always communicate.


Just keep in mind that the honest approach doesn't automatically mean success.
I don't lie, but there is such a thing as being too honest.
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08 Jan 2021, 9:23 pm

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I have heard some horror stories about Tinder. 8O


Please tell them! 8O



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08 Jan 2021, 9:24 pm

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I have heard some horror stories about Tinder. 8O


Please tell them! 8O


Ditto! 8)



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08 Jan 2021, 9:49 pm

Back in the 80's there wasn't online dating but there were personal ads one could subscribe too. I used Philadelphia Magazine - that's where I met my husband. He was the ONLY NORMAL ONE who replied to my personal ad who was close to my age at the time. Most that were my own age were really sick. The older people were nice but just too old - more than 25 years older - but it could have been a lovely time for an older woman looking for romance. Some were inmates!! ! 8O 8O 8O Another was into BDSM. One claimed to have his own "altar". Another one just scared the sh*t out of me with just his eyes! Another turned out to be my second cousin - YUCK!! ! - but a really nice guy for some lucky gal out there. A mixed bag but mostly "nuts".
I guess hazels and filberts need love too!



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08 Jan 2021, 10:03 pm

CockneyRebel wrote:
Online dating is a sausage fest.


Somebody send a pic of "Da 'ol kielbasa" to my niece. I was livid - she laughed her head off as did her friends as well.
One of her classmates were dismissed from college because he sent a pic of his one-eyed trouser snake to most of the student body. Here "meet my dingdong" caused dating to go right out the window! What is the matter with guys?! ! They get wurst and wurst. It's getting wurst.



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09 Jan 2021, 12:39 am

I believe us Aspies tend to have better luck with others who are more on our level. Bars & clubs are for extroverted people who like partying with others to relax. In person social skills are very essential in those places & chances are any romantic partner you meet there would be an extrovert with good social skills which would be a horrible match for an introverted socially awkward Aspie. The extrovert would be regularly complaining about how he/she can not take the Aspie to social events because the Aspie would either refuse to go or the Aspie would make a fool of him/herself & embarrass the socially skilled extrovert.

However dating sites may not be a good for Aspies either, especially Aspie guys who want relationships with women. There are generally much more guys on dating sites than women which creates an atmosphere where the guys are like job seekers & the women are like employers. The guys are all competing against each other to prove themselves worthy to the women. That said, dating sites might be a bit easier for Aspie guys to try than bars/clubs & other various avenues. One common stereotype about us Aspies is that we strongly prefer computer & online technology over offline socializing. I found it a lot easier to sign up for a site & create a profile than to initiate conversations with strangers offline & I prefer spending my time at home on my computer instead of going a bar/club.

I think us Aspies need to try alternative approaches for meeting others. Maybe there's offline or online groups for our special interests. Maybe we have an interest or talent for something creative like art, making music, writing poetry. If so we should try to find ways to meet others who are into that & we could try to find ways to showcase our stuff offline or online. Some people are attracted to creative types. If we care about a cause, we could try to find ways to volunteer & meet others who are into it. Maybe that's working with animals, protecting the environment, helping the poor & disabled, promoting peace, fighting for equality. Some people are attracted to others who are caring & compassionate. If there is an underground alternative/counter cultural group we relate to, we could try to meet others offline or online who are into it. If we're into something that's mainstream in our area, we could go to things related to that. If we are attracted to or like characteristics in others that lots of others would have problems with, we could try & seek out others who have those characteristics. We could try joining offline & online support groups for various issues & problems we may have; this forum is a perfect example of one & I know there has been various couples that met on here including me & my girlfriend. Autism is diagnosed much more in males thou. But maybe you have a comorbid with autism or a disability unrelated to autism that would have a more even or higher ratio of women to men. Instead of just focusing on our negatives we should try & focus our our positives even if those are things most others would not consider positive. There might be a minority who would find em positive. We should also find ways to put a positive spin on our negatives. We need to know how to market ourselves within our own niche.


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09 Jan 2021, 12:53 am

RightGalaxy wrote:
CockneyRebel wrote:
Online dating is a sausage fest.


Somebody send a pic of "Da 'ol kielbasa" to my niece. I was livid - she laughed her head off as did her friends as well.
One of her classmates were dismissed from college because he sent a pic of his one-eyed trouser snake to most of the student body. Here "meet my dingdong" caused dating to go right out the window! What is the matter with guys?! ! They get wurst and wurst. It's getting wurst.


No offence, but it sounds hilarious to me also.
We are more broad-minded, down under, in Australia. :mrgreen:



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09 Jan 2021, 8:20 am

RightGalaxy wrote:
CockneyRebel wrote:
Online dating is a sausage fest.


Somebody send a pic of "Da 'ol kielbasa" to my niece. I was livid - she laughed her head off as did her friends as well.
One of her classmates were dismissed from college because he sent a pic of his one-eyed trouser snake to most of the student body. Here "meet my dingdong" caused dating to go right out the window! What is the matter with guys?! ! They get wurst and wurst. It's getting wurst.


That would makes it literally a sausage fest.



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The_Face_of_Boo wrote:
RightGalaxy wrote:
CockneyRebel wrote:
Online dating is a sausage fest.


Somebody send a pic of "Da 'ol kielbasa" to my niece. I was livid - she laughed her head off as did her friends as well.
One of her classmates were dismissed from college because he sent a pic of his one-eyed trouser snake to most of the student body. Here "meet my dingdong" caused dating to go right out the window! What is the matter with guys?! ! They get wurst and wurst. It's getting wurst.


That would makes it literally a sausage fest.
I would prefer a Sausage Party :arrow:


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nick007 wrote:
I think us Aspies need to try alternative approaches for meeting others.
Another alternative I thought of is that we could try meeting people from other cultures like maybe international dating if one is willing to relocate. Or we could look for someone who immigrated to our country or someone who was born there but who's parents had immigrated. Some things might would be written off as cultural differences. Also some cultures like Japanese can have some aspects that might be more accepting & appealing for certain Aspie traits. For example nerd culture is more popular in Japan, things like anime(they invented it), video-games, & various technology stuff.

I might have some other ideas & things to add another day but I want to post this before I forget it.


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