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27 Jan 2021, 2:35 pm
Note: I prefer the term "queerfolk" only because it is easier to say than "LGBTQQIP2SAA".Highly regional & then individual/personal.
Example:
Here, among gay males, masculine muscular types are among the most prized. However, that’s not my type and the guys I like get ignored by many here - which is bizarre to me - and that’s probably a good thing for me personally lol. But apparently in Seattle they get a whole lot more positive attention - enough that there are local gay boys that will (not during covid) go spend a long weekend partying in Seattle so they get the sexual attention at clubs that they don’t tend to get here.
And on a global scale beauty standards vary wildly, too. I remember reading an article where a bunch of graphics artists from around the world were instructed to modify an image of the same woman into The Most Attractive woman, and the results varied widely as what people like - or are culturally conditioned to like where they are from - is different all around the globe.
So, there is no set answer. But as a generalization I’d still say that physical fitness is still a factor that generally makes people more attractive to others regardless of who they are or where they are. Beyond that it’s very regional & then individual/personal.
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27 Jan 2021, 3:25 pm
Nice smile/teeth - genetic lottery + good hygiene habits.
Good personal hygiene habits in general.
Being in physically fit & looking good naked certainly don’t hurt any, but properly fitting fashionable clothing definitely help. There’s a reason the phrase “It’s the clothes that make the man,” exists. I acknowledge this while at the same time being.. fashion neutral to fashion averse lol really some of the function-over-form clothing I wear sometimes I should just burn lol BUT I’m never wearing it to impress anyone/don’t expect to impress anyone or have them attracted to me so meh, old habits die hard I guess. I suppose it wouldn’t be a bad thing for me to work on that, though.
Confident presence & body language. Head held tall, back straight, chest out kind of Alpha stance vs looking “small,” meek & weak.
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27 Jan 2021, 3:26 pm
I don't think it's only regional, I think a big part of what we perceive as beautiful is innate.
Princess Nefertiti was a symbol of beauty in ancient Egypt and yet she would be considered attractive in our modern standards.
I think nothing much changed regarding this.
And please don't tell me again about the weird-looking stone-age "Venus" goodness again 
; she was probably a symbolism of fertility, not beauty.
27 Jan 2021, 3:33 pm
27 Jan 2021, 3:34 pm
I often start to think people look attractive after I've found out that they are rich celebrities. [joke]
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27 Jan 2021, 3:45 pm
I highly doubt that one can know someone's personality that well on okcupid.
Why not?
With enough messages I’m sure people can get a good idea.
Even on this forum we can glean what people are like. We know what their political beliefs are, likes/dislikes, who’s always negative, who tends to be logical, who tends to be positive etc.
A lot can be conveyed via text. Even amongst NT’s in online/app dating connections, it’s text conversations that determine whether there’s a next conversation or a first date/hookup etc.
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And please don't tell me again about the weird-looking stone-age "Venus" goodness again
; she was probably a symbolism of fertility, not beauty.You are right.
I was there when it was made.
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28 Jan 2021, 2:43 am
I highly doubt that one can know someone's personality that well on okcupid.
Why not?
With enough messages I’m sure people can get a good idea.
Even on this forum we can glean what people are like. We know what their political beliefs are, likes/dislikes, who’s always negative, who tends to be logical, who tends to be positive etc.
A lot can be conveyed via text. Even amongst NT’s in online/app dating connections, it’s text conversations that determine whether there’s a next conversation or a first date/hookup etc.
A big part of knowing one’s personality is observing her/him how he/she interacts with others in society; it requires face to face dating, which you can’t do online.
Maybe if you do a lot of video calls with the person.
Yet I doubt those okcupid raters had that much time in knowing people of the other sex before rating; otherwise the results would be so different, no one is gonna give you time for long messages / video calls or meeting you for real unless they find you somehow attractive, no? I bet those where hasty votes based on pictures and profile text only.
I dunno. I can chat w/ ppl online and get a decent sense of their personality - especially sometimes if they’re very expressive w/ their text communications.
Chances are that no one is going to give you their time very often on a dating/hookup app unless they’re attracted to you in some way, no. Although sometimes they may chat to find out if there’s attraction - but usually it’s because theres already some level of physical appearance attraction and they want to find out more about you. Then chats reveal personalities and people either become more or less attractive based on what the chats reveal about them.
But who’s to say the okcupid votes were all based on profile text/photos/messages online? You sure these people didn’t meet irl and get a feel for others personalities? Or video/voice chat?
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28 Jan 2021, 2:58 am
I like women.
I'm not convinced the graph is particularly accurate, though.
If you look at couples, they are overwhelmingly in the same attractiveness league.
I stand by what I said.
I think a lot of women do end up with men who initially saw as 'not hot' looks-wise.
Otherwise, they'll die single.
I wonder if the bottom graph correlates with how women perceive themselves.
That's actually an astute observation.
Women tend to be pretty tough on themselves. We base a lot of our value on our looks and we're usually critical about it and compare ourselves to other women often. We tend to feel like we're not "good enough."
I encountered a lot of women who say stuff like “My ex bf was not sexy...”, “my ex was fat and unfit”.... or even more negative details of her exes’s physical traits down there if she is intimate with me.
This is sad, I wouldn’t want to be with someone who finds me ugly or unattractive.
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28 Jan 2021, 5:37 am
I like women.
I'm not convinced the graph is particularly accurate, though.
If you look at couples, they are overwhelmingly in the same attractiveness league.
I stand by what I said.
I think a lot of women do end up with men who initially saw as 'not hot' looks-wise.
Otherwise, they'll die single.
I wonder if the bottom graph correlates with how women perceive themselves.
That's actually an astute observation.
Women tend to be pretty tough on themselves. We base a lot of our value on our looks and we're usually critical about it and compare ourselves to other women often. We tend to feel like we're not "good enough."
I encountered a lot of women who say stuff like “My ex bf was not sexy...”, “my ex was fat and unfit”.... or even more negative details of her exes’s physical traits down there if she is intimate with me.
This is sad, I wouldn’t want to be with someone who finds me ugly or unattractive.
It's nearly impossible for you to ever have been unattractive.
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