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A few years ago, a co-worker set me up on a date with her friend. I thought she was very intelligent and interesting to talk to, and I enjoyed spending time with her. But despite that I did not at any point find her sexually attractive. A Year or two before that I met someone online and we talked for a month or two. But when we met in person, despite finding her very interesting and enjoyable on an intellectual level, I just didn't feel drawn to her in any sexual way. If circumstances had allowed for it, I would be happy to maintain a friendship with either of those ladies. But felt no sexual attraction to them and could never see them as potential sexual or romantic partners. So to answer your question: no. I'm afraid I can't say I have.
Things I can't change:
I have ASD, anxiety, and depression.
I have a high pitched voice that makes people consistently think I'm a woman on the phone.
I have low testostrone.
I am unable to achieve financial independence despite having a university education.
I am too old to do many things I would like to.
ASD can't be "cured" but you can learn more ways to cover your weaknesses and exploit your strengths. Anxiety and depression can be treated and I speak from experience there.
You could probably learn to train your voice if you really wanted to. Many trans women, instead of getting surgery on their vocal tract simply train their voice to sound feminine with pretty great results. You could learn how to do the opposite. Or just embrace your voice, my voice tends to be quite soft and I just roll with it.
Do you actually get tested for your testosterone? Hbomberguy for example is not a macho man, but apparently has very high testosterone according to tests. Even if you have low T, nobody can magically sense that. So long as it isn't causing you medical issues, your testosterone is probably normal for your body (and T levels actually fluctuate a lot). Don't chase T levels that you've read posted online.
You are unable to achieve financial independence, right now. Why can't you in the future?
What is your age stopping you from doing?
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Lose weight and get in shape.
Things I can't change:
I have ASD, anxiety, and depression.
I have a high pitched voice that makes people consistently think I'm a woman on the phone.
I have low testostrone.
I am unable to achieve financial independence despite having a university education.
I am too old to do many things I would like to.
You might need to see an endocrinologist to help you with hormone levels, it will also help you lose weight, and will probably improve and stabilize your moods. Seeing progress/results will improve your mood and will give you confidence. Depression and anxiety aren't permanent.
As for the financial aspects... You just gonna have to work harder and get creative with what you have to find opportunities.
You're only as datable as you make yourself be. You control your success and failure.
(I'm in a relationship of sorts that has yet to be defined, but that's beyond my point.)
I did try and I did put myself out there many times. I approached many women when I was in college and women at work over the years, and was consistently turned down every single time.
Being open to and willing isn't good enough. You have to have something to offer, or in other words be an attractive candidate.
Even when I was younger I understood it very well that I have to improve myself before I can even dream of finding someone.
It is ultimately the responsibility of each of us to make us an attractive choice. If you think you have too few attractive physical qualities you will need to meet women in intellectual settings, perhaps in online special interest groups.
As for the financial aspects... You just gonna have to work harder and get creative with what you have to find opportunities.
I was getting treatment before the pandemic started. I had to pay out of pocket because my insurance wouldn't cover it. And still nothing changed.
The problem with that is the same as with any situation that involves limiting myself to a small subset of the dating pool. We would need to both find the other attractive. And neither of us can possess characteristics the other would consider a deal breaker (for example, I once was on a date with someone who told me she was into BDSM stuff I'm not comfortable with). Finding someone who meets all these criteria is difficult enough just within the overall dating pool in general. To further be limited to a subset that represents 10% or less of that dating pool makes it virtually impossible. I resent the idea that my only option is to settle for someone I'm not attracted to simply because she's one of the 0.01% of women who are willing to date someone like me.
Your dating pool is limited anyway no matter how you approach it. You don't have infinite time and resources; therefore, you can't possibly meet every unattached woman in the entire world. You simply don't have the time and resources to meet more than a small number of women no matter how you approach it. Therefore, it make sense to prioritize those categories of women who are most likely to accept you. Of course, within those categories, you do need to find those women whom you are attracted to also.
It seems to me that today's dating apps, with their worldwide reach, have given a lot of people the illusion of infinite choice, resulting in an awful lot of frustration for the vast majority of users, especially heterosexual men (but also heterosexual women too). Yet a lot of people are still addicted to the illusion of infinite choice, to the point of eschewing more realistic though more "limited" approaches to finding a partner.
To me it was always glaringly obvious that I needed to look for compatible fellow oddballs. As a result of this insight, I've been relatively successful, relationship-wise, compared to many autistic women, apparently, although I never was a beauty queen.
EDIT: It also seems to me that one of your biggest problems is that you are stuck living out in the boonies. If there is any way that you could move closer to a major city, that would be a huge help.
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I don't live in the boonies. I live in a college town right next to large city, just not a "major" city. But I do live in the Bible Belt in the South.
I don't currently know any women who fit the description you're recommending. I rarely meet people who identify as bisexual. It is also uncommon for me to meet women who are single, for that matter.
As for the financial aspects... You just gonna have to work harder and get creative with what you have to find opportunities.
I was getting treatment before the pandemic started. I had to pay out of pocket because my insurance wouldn't cover it. And still nothing changed.
I hope you agree that hormones drive what your body does. It's really unfortunate that the treatment didn't bring you results, something needs to change in the treatment. The science and common sense say it should work. If hormones didn't work you won't have grown.
I don't currently know any women who fit the description you're recommending. I rarely meet people who identify as bisexual. It is also uncommon for me to meet women who are single, for that matter.
Does your "college town" have a significant and visible LGBTQ+ community? If not, then, if at all possible, you need to move to a place that does, so you can meet the kind of women (mostly bisexual) who are attracted to androgynous men. (Like maybe Austin, TX?)
Someone should start a group for androgynous men and women who are attracted to androgynous men.
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Aside from how my voice sounds, I'm not androgynously. I only mistaken for a woman in situations where people hear my voice but can't see me, like on the phone or in drive throughs. I'm mostly just awkward when I'm around attractive ladies.
And I've been wanting out of this hellhole for years. I would've left long ago if I had the means to afford to.
And I've been wanting out of this hellhole for years. I would've left long ago if I had the means to afford to.
These days, real estate prices are going up in suburbs and rural areas but down in cities, apparently. So perhaps now might be a good time to check around and see what you can actually afford?
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What are some of the best places to meet women like this? I'm increasingly beginning to believe that only bi women would be able to mutually reciprocate my enjoyment of watching both hypermasculine sports like boxing and MMA and feminine sports like figure skating and women's college gymnastics.
Yes, there is. For people half my age.
