Casual sex was dying out before the pandemic

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07 Apr 2021, 1:56 am

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In Canada, anyways, apparently:

https://www.healthing.ca/wellness/sex/c ... e-pandemic

Several things come to mind:

1. Are gamers not getting laid because they're spending time gaming? Or are they spending time gaming because they're not getting laid? Chicken/egg, correlation != causation.

2. Duh alcohol facilitates sex. Liquid courage for boys, lowers inhibitions for girls. Duh.

3. Hmm, why would people drink less? Fewer house parties hosted by young adults when they can't afford a home of their own. People stay living with their parents because jobs pay peanuts and homes cost Millions. Not exactly the same party vibe to say "come party with me and my parents," in most cases. Also, if they are living on their own and paying their bills, alcohol is a very expensive luxury that many cannot afford barely at all.. so if they're paying Most of their money in rent, the rest on transportation, and buying Ramen noodles on a credit card.. maybe they're opting not to spend $50 on a 24 pack of "cheap," beer?

4. Marijuana has probably become more socially acceptable clear across the country since it was legalized. Everyone's getting stoned and playing video games waiting for to inherit enough money from their grandparents to move out of their parents' houses.




Look, it is simple, if women accept these men, these men will have casual sex - whether they're gamers or not.

I don't think any men would prefer of staying home to play games rather than having sex; I think it's more that they play games before they're single.

And before anyone says: But they need to get out in order..... *hushhh* , it's pandemic, no one gets out nowadays.


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07 Apr 2021, 5:20 am

If decreased alcohol consumption is a factor, then I would be curious to see the numbers for the US because alcohol is usually much more available and inexpensive there. Staying sober because you can't afford booze is not a thing in the US.


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07 Apr 2021, 7:00 am

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If decreased alcohol consumption is a factor, then I would be curious to see the numbers for the US because alcohol is usually much more available and inexpensive there. Staying sober because you can't afford booze is not a thing in the US.


It is and it isn't. My children are millennials, and from what they have told me, the way people (younger people anyhow) drink now is different than it was when I was younger. Bars are more expensive than buying alcohol and drinking it at home or someone else's house/apartment/whatever. The drinks cost more, you need to tip, and so on.

That has been the trend for them, not frequenting bars so much, and if they do they 'pre game it', meaning they get buzzed before heading out to the bar so they only have to cough up money for one or two drinks there and mostly end up drinking pop or water, which is cheaper and sometimes free if they go to a bar that doesn't charge for those because they do that to encourage people to be designated drivers. They haven't completely sobered up due to the cost, but the cost is impacting how much they drink and how they drink. Like with the pre gaming it, they aren't drinking much at bars and as a result getting more sober while at one v/s getting tipsier throughout the night because they can't usually afford to.

It would seem to me that if drinking for younger people has become more like just hanging out at a friends house with other friends while drinking, casual sex would be on the decline because of that. It's not like they're out meeting new people all the time that they could hook up with. Unless they're into hooking up with their friends, that is. :lol:



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07 Apr 2021, 8:31 am

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If decreased alcohol consumption is a factor, then I would be curious to see the numbers for the US because alcohol is usually much more available and inexpensive there. Staying sober because you can't afford booze is not a thing in the US.


That's a good thing; less of ambiguously-consent sex is better for any society.



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07 Apr 2021, 8:35 am

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If decreased alcohol consumption is a factor, then I would be curious to see the numbers for the US because alcohol is usually much more available and inexpensive there.  Staying sober because you can't afford booze is not a thing in the US.
It is not just the sobriety, it is also the closed singles' bars that have ruined the chances for one-night-stands.



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If decreased alcohol consumption is a factor, then I would be curious to see the numbers for the US because alcohol is usually much more available and inexpensive there.  Staying sober because you can't afford booze is not a thing in the US.
It is not just the sobriety, it is also the closed singles' bars that have ruined the chances for one-night-stands.

The OP claims the trend is pre-COVID, anyway bars are fully open now in most parts of the US ( in contrast to Canada).


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07 Apr 2021, 8:55 am

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If decreased alcohol consumption is a factor, then I would be curious to see the numbers for the US because alcohol is usually much more available and inexpensive there.  Staying sober because you can't afford booze is not a thing in the US.
It is not just the sobriety, it is also the closed singles' bars that have ruined the chances for one-night-stands.
The OP claims the trend is pre-COVID, anyway bars are fully open now in most parts of the US ( in contrast to Canada).
In that case, we may be seeing another "Boomer" generation being born in 2022.



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If decreased alcohol consumption is a factor, then I would be curious to see the numbers for the US because alcohol is usually much more available and inexpensive there.  Staying sober because you can't afford booze is not a thing in the US.
It is not just the sobriety, it is also the closed singles' bars that have ruined the chances for one-night-stands.
The OP claims the trend is pre-COVID, anyway bars are fully open now in most parts of the US ( in contrast to Canada).
In that case, we may be seeing another "Boomer" generation being born in 2022.

Well if the current conditions lead to some sort of nightmare scenario, the bars might be closing soon. I just saw on the morning news that they're sending all the school kids home in Ontario. Are things that much worse there than in the US?


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07 Apr 2021, 9:30 am

MaxE wrote:
Fnord wrote:
MaxE wrote:
Fnord wrote:
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If decreased alcohol consumption is a factor, then I would be curious to see the numbers for the US because alcohol is usually much more available and inexpensive there.  Staying sober because you can't afford booze is not a thing in the US.
It is not just the sobriety, it is also the closed singles' bars that have ruined the chances for one-night-stands.
The OP claims the trend is pre-COVID, anyway bars are fully open now in most parts of the US ( in contrast to Canada).
In that case, we may be seeing another "Boomer" generation being born in 2022.
Well if the current conditions lead to some sort of nightmare scenario, the bars might be closing soon. I just saw on the morning news that they're sending all the school kids home in Ontario. Are things that much worse there than in the US?
Here in California, we are ahead of the curve in vaccinations and covid survivors, so schools are opening (with distancing requirements) as soon as all of the teachers and staff are vaccinated.  Disneyland, Knotts Berry Farm, and Universal Studios are opening by May or June.  This state is leading all but 5 nations in the effectiveness of its handling of covid.

As for the rest of the country, nearly half of new coronavirus infections nationwide are in just five states: New York, Michigan, Florida, Pennsylvania, and New Jersey.  Together, they reported 44% of the nation's new COVID-19 infections, or nearly 197,500 new cases, as of April 6.



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07 Apr 2021, 9:50 am

Fnord wrote:
MaxE wrote:
Fnord wrote:
MaxE wrote:
Fnord wrote:
MaxE wrote:
If decreased alcohol consumption is a factor, then I would be curious to see the numbers for the US because alcohol is usually much more available and inexpensive there.  Staying sober because you can't afford booze is not a thing in the US.
It is not just the sobriety, it is also the closed singles' bars that have ruined the chances for one-night-stands.
The OP claims the trend is pre-COVID, anyway bars are fully open now in most parts of the US ( in contrast to Canada).
In that case, we may be seeing another "Boomer" generation being born in 2022.
Well if the current conditions lead to some sort of nightmare scenario, the bars might be closing soon. I just saw on the morning news that they're sending all the school kids home in Ontario. Are things that much worse there than in the US?
Here in California, we are ahead of the curve in vaccinations and covid survivors, so schools are opening (with distancing requirements) as soon as all of the teachers and staff are vaccinated.  Disneyland, Knotts Berry Farm, and Universal Studios are opening by May or June.  This state is leading all but 5 nations in the effectiveness of its handling of covid.

As for the rest of the country, nearly half of new coronavirus infections nationwide are in just five states: New York, Michigan, Florida, Pennsylvania, and New Jersey.  Together, they reported 44% of the nation's new COVID-19 infections, or nearly 197,500 new cases, as of April 6.

Any idea why those 5 states? They don't all have Democrat governors so that popular explanation doesn't apply.


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07 Apr 2021, 9:54 am

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Any idea why those 5 states? They don't all have Democrat governors so that popular explanation doesn't apply.

Outbreaks come in waves and I think we shouldn't read too much into a state or country being currently at a given phase of a wave.

Michigan seems to have the same timing as Poland - maybe something climate-related?


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07 Apr 2021, 9:56 am

MaxE wrote:
Fnord wrote:
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MaxE wrote:
Fnord wrote:
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If decreased alcohol consumption is a factor, then I would be curious to see the numbers for the US because alcohol is usually much more available and inexpensive there.  Staying sober because you can't afford booze is not a thing in the US.
It is not just the sobriety, it is also the closed singles' bars that have ruined the chances for one-night-stands.
The OP claims the trend is pre-COVID, anyway bars are fully open now in most parts of the US ( in contrast to Canada).
In that case, we may be seeing another "Boomer" generation being born in 2022.
Well if the current conditions lead to some sort of nightmare scenario, the bars might be closing soon. I just saw on the morning news that they're sending all the school kids home in Ontario. Are things that much worse there than in the US?
Here in California, we are ahead of the curve in vaccinations and covid survivors, so schools are opening (with distancing requirements) as soon as all of the teachers and staff are vaccinated.  Disneyland, Knotts Berry Farm, and Universal Studios are opening by May or June.  This state is leading all but 5 nations in the effectiveness of its handling of covid.  As for the rest of the country, nearly half of new coronavirus infections nationwide are in just five states: New York, Michigan, Florida, Pennsylvania, and New Jersey.  Together, they reported 44% of the nation's new COVID-19 infections, or nearly 197,500 new cases, as of April 6.
Any idea why those 5 states? They don't all have Democrat governors so that popular explanation doesn't apply.
New Jersey, New York, and Pennsylvania share borders over which many people commute; Michigan has a large Libertarian/MAGA/QAnon demographic that hates the female governor and her anti-covid pro-vaxx policies; and many Floridiots are also Covidiots -- need I say more?



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07 Apr 2021, 10:54 am

There won't be any a booming of sex and babies.

Sex was declining even before covid.



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There won't be any a booming of sex and babies.  Sex was declining even before covid.
Local betting odds are almost even money, so far.  Payoff is 2022-12-31 at 24:00, local time.



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07 Apr 2021, 7:05 pm

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Look, it is simple, if women accept these men, these men will have casual sex - whether they're gamers or not.

I don't think any men would prefer of staying home to play games rather than having sex; I think it's more that they play games before they're single.

And before anyone says: But they need to get out in order..... *hushhh* , it's pandemic, no one gets out nowadays.
The scamdemic (the proper spelling when describing Covid; "pandemic" just is how some people pronounce it) didn't stop me in the slightest. I joined a QAnon group in late spring of 2020, and went to their party the week after. I didn't have casual sex, but I did have a casual makeout high school-style. Funny how when the party first started, everyone was skittish and standoffish. But once alcohol brought out our people's inner social animals, everyone jumped at each other! Cuddly group selfies, gratuitous hugs, intertwining fingers with the people next to you, sharing drinks, the whole nine yards! I swing-danced with a woman I just met---a nothingburger in pre-scamdemic times---at the end of the song, she jumped into my arms as she thanked me for the dance. Everyone at the party was clearly starved for human contact, and we took it out on each other. It literally felt like losing my virginity all over again, despite my pants being on the whole time. The CDC would have a collective heart attack if they found out!

Come to think of it, I'm pretty sure I could have slept with one of the women at the party if I chose to escalate things. Everyone was literally in an altered state from the prolonged social isolation. But the nonstop touch at the party, after a two-month quarantine, was such a mind**** [copulation], that I might react in a really weird way if I actually spent the night. So I stuck to dancing and making out, leaving sex to escorts a month later. Which was also good, but nothing can match the fun taboo feel of an illegal social gathering. (With a possible exception of the escort conventions I attended before the scamdemic.)


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That has been the trend for them, not frequenting bars so much, and if they do they 'pre game it', meaning they get buzzed before heading out to the bar so they only have to cough up money for one or two drinks there and mostly end up drinking pop or water, which is cheaper and sometimes free if they go to a bar that doesn't charge for those because they do that to encourage people to be designated drivers. They haven't completely sobered up due to the cost, but the cost is impacting how much they drink and how they drink. Like with the pre gaming it, they aren't drinking much at bars and as a result getting more sober while at one v/s getting tipsier throughout the night because they can't usually afford to.

It would seem to me that if drinking for younger people has become more like just hanging out at a friends house with other friends while drinking, casual sex would be on the decline because of that. It's not like they're out meeting new people all the time that they could hook up with. Unless they're into hooking up with their friends, that is. :lol:


That was my experience with going on nights out - a pre drinking session was always assumed before going to the clubs. We'd go to a friend's flat and hang out for hours before going to the club. I didn't drink much, I don't drink much in general. The drunken conversations were surprising - I ended up talking to someone who started talking about socio-economic issues and then in the next sentence switched to asking about my love life.

There were attempts to set me up with people, but they failed miserably. Most of my friends are avid gamers, whilst I'm more of a casual, but I've been accepted into that group anyway. Granted, most of them aren't straight men, which this article seems to be talking about. I'd say the vast majority of the group are lesbian couples who game together.


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